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I was thinking about a tourist visa. More hoops to jump through.

isnt that fraud? 

Why do they make it so difficult for two people to be together that want to be together, and marry? I just don't get it. 

Edited by NeoGeo
Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, NeoGeo said:

I was thinking about a tourist visa. More hoops to jump through.

isnt that fraud? 

Fraud to visit on a tourist visa? No. She cannot come on a tourist visa to stay permanently with you, but it's absolutely fine to visit you and return home. Then you can start the K-1 visa process so she can come and stay.

Edited by geowrian

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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2 minutes ago, NeoGeo said:

And if we marry here then? 

Then she goes home and you start the CR-1 (spousal visa) process.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Filed: Country: Vietnam (no flag)
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Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, NeoGeo said:

I was thinking about a tourist visa. More hoops to jump through.

isnt that fraud? 

Why do they make it so difficult for two people to be together that want to be together, and marry? I just don't get it. 

Using a tourist visa to enter the US with the intent to immigrate is fraud.

 

They make it difficult because of marriage fraud for a green card.  

If you don't go to see her, then you got zero chances of a successful K-1.  It's highly unlikely that she will get a tourist visa.  

Edited by aaron2020
Posted
Just now, NeoGeo said:

Why would she need to go back home?

I married a gal, gosh, 30 years or more, that came here on a tourist visa to see her sister. 

We married, and she was allowed to stay here, because she was my wife. Has things changed?

She cannot enter on a tourist visa with intent to stay/adjust status. That's where it is fraud. If she gets a tourist visa, she must use it for visits or else face being denied entry, possibly an expedited deportation (they do this at POE now), or a misrepresentation bar.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Posted
Just now, geowrian said:

She cannot enter on a tourist visa with intent to stay/adjust status. That's where it is fraud. If she gets a tourist visa, she must use it for visits or else face being denied entry, possibly an expedited deportation (they do this at POE now), or a misrepresentation bar.

That would end it for us. 

Filed: Country: Vietnam (no flag)
Timeline
Posted
1 minute ago, NeoGeo said:

Why would she need to go back home?

I married a gal, gosh, 30 years or more, that came here on a tourist visa to see her sister. 

We married, and she was allowed to stay here, because she was my wife. Has things changed?

Because it's illegal to use a non-immigrant tourist visa to enter the US with the intent to immigrate.  

 

Preconceived intent is not considered when an Immediate Relative of a US adjusts status, this is why your exwife was allowed to adjust when she was already in the US. 

What you are considering is visa fraud since your fiancee is not in the US.

 

If you continue down this line, the Mods on VJ will shut you down since it's a violation of the TOS on VJ to ask for help to commit fraud. 

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