Gun instructor killed while showing 9-year-old girl how to use an Uzi

[JohnR! 5,495]

Sense of humor anyone?

Except that his case has nothing to do with the Constitution.

[Teddy B 17,252]

Was she shooting a fully automatic Uzi? I don't think the article specified that. The majority of Uzi's in private hands aren't fully automatic, they are semi automatic. They fire a 9mm round which is largely for handguns. Many police departments went from 9mm to .40 caliber for more knockdown power.

Cause it really matters right?

Spooks you're moving ever closer to being a full fledged gun aficionado with some of your arguments lately.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

The exact same thing happened in Massachusetts 2 years ago. A doctor wanted his pre-teen son to shoot a class 3, fully auto, uzi. The range officer had his head up his butt and failed to exercise common sense. The result was the Doctors son getting his head blown off in front of his father. I fail to understand why this tragic lesson failed to reach Ariz...?

BTW: I taught both my daughters learned shoot proficiently and safely at the age of 10.... they have yet to become spree killers

I remember that one. It was stated that the gun was on full auto. In this article it doesn't mention full auto at all.

[Teddy B 17,252]

Vacca was standing next to the girl at the Last Stop outdoor shooting range in White Hills when she pulled the trigger and the recoil sent the gun over her head, investigators said.

If the recoil sent the gun over head and the instructor was shot, would it not mean that the gun was on auto? Again, it really doesn't matter. Let's focus on foolish bs rather than the fact that a 9 year old was being taught to shoot an Uzi.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Cause it really matters right?

Spooks you're moving ever closer to being a full fledged gun aficionado with some of your arguments lately.

Of course it matters. You guys are sensationalizing because it was a big bad Uzi. You want educated gun users yet tell me I'm a nut because of the statements I have made in this thread, all which are about proper gun safety?

And if anyone of you every actually fired a semi-automatic Uzi, you'd be probably be let down.

[Teddy B 17,252]

Of course it matters. You guys are sensationalizing because it was a big bad Uzi. You want educated gun users yet tell me I'm a nut because of the statements I have made in this thread, all which are about proper gun safety?

And if anyone of you every actually fired a semi-automatic Uzi, you'd be probably be let down.

Wow! The fact that the girl is 9 years old completely escapes you?

[spookyturtle 9,466]

I presume if she shot the instructor she was holding the gun...

Given to her as in gift as a few here seem to indicate.

It could be inferred that she would be required to be handed a gun in order to be able to shoot someone with it.

Play with the words a bit more.

[aaydrian 479]

I remember that one. It was stated that the gun was on full auto. In this article it doesn't mention full auto at all.

The girl was at the shooting range with her parents, who filmed the lesson.

The footage shows the instructor coaching her as she fires a single shot at a target at the Last Stop shooting range in White Hills, Arizona.

The Uzi then appears to be switched to automatic as the girl pulls the trigger and loses her grip of the weapon.

The BBC article had the above details.

And isn't 9 a bit young to start educating someone on gun safety that involves actual gun handling?

Edited August 27, 2014 by aaydrian

[JohnR! 5,495]

If English were my first language I would... Obtuseness is quite often in the eyes of the beholder.

Play with the words a bit more.

[waka1 28]

I remember that one. It was stated that the gun was on full auto. In this article it doesn't mention full auto at all.

Don't think it could have happened any other way...Ariz is a big class 3 State

[spookyturtle 9,466]

If the recoil sent the gun over head and the instructor was shot, would it not mean that the gun was on auto? Again, it really doesn't matter. Let's focus on foolish bs rather than the fact that a 9 year old was being taught to shoot an Uzi.

No, it would not. Of course it matters. Your making a big deal out of it because it was *gasp* an Uzi, that's all. The girl was at a firing range being to shotgun by a careless instructor. What laws do you suggest passing that would prevent this?

Wow! The fact that the girl is 9 years old completely escapes you?

I learned to shoot before that age.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Don't think it could have happened any other way...Ariz is a big class 3 State

I just thought it would have been mentioned in the article. It would certainly make more sense if it was full auto. And if it was, the instructor really wasn't too sharp.

[decocker 7,198]

I learned to shoot before that age.

an uzi?

[spookyturtle 9,466]

If English were my first language I would... Obtuseness is quite often in the eyes of the beholder.

And sensationalism and nonsense is from the mouth of the speaker.

an uzi?

No, not an Uzi. But tell me what's worse about shooting a single shot from an Uzi vs a .22?

[decocker 7,198]

No, not an Uzi. But tell me what's worse about shooting a single shot from an Uzi vs a .22?

single shot? i was under the impression the girl lost control when the uzi was placed in full auto?