John Crawford Case: It’s Open Carry for Whites and Open Season on Blacks

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Sure it will, "if" it does. And if it does I'll be right with you calling out the cops. Until then, I'll go with what we've got.

And, you'll owe me a turkey sandwich on top of my previous meal. I'm not a easy date

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I'll be the first to call anyone out on racism in any situation, when it is positively shown that it played a part. Otherwise it's he said/she said.

I just wonder if people approach these sorts of stories differently based on who the victim is.

[Teddy B 17,252]

And, you'll owe me a turkey sandwich on top of my previous meal. I'm not a easy date

No problem, I'll just have Val whip one up for ya. She makes a really mean sammich!

I just wonder if people approach these sorts of stories differently based on who the victim is.

Sure they do. Whatever prejudices or biases a person has plays into most everything they do and witness in life. Once a belief system is instilled in a person, it's nearly impossible to change it.

[decocker 7,198]

I just wonder if people approach these sorts of stories differently based on who the victim is.

i don't see how anyone could be cool with someone in an open carry state, being shot and killed on sight for carrying legal merchandise in the middle of a walmart based completely on a 911 call. i don't care if the victim is neon green.

there are herds of mommies rolling into target with their kids on one hip and a shotgun over the shoulder, supposedly, because they want people to get used to and feel safer with the general public carrying guns everywhere. but this guy, how dare he even try to get the words 'it's not real' out of his mouth -serves him right to get riddled with bullets..i just don't get it.

Edited August 28, 2014 by val erie

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

i don't see how anyone could be cool with someone in an open carry state, being shot and killed on sight for carrying legal merchandise in the middle of a walmart based completely on a 911 call. i don't care if the victim is neon green.

there are herds of mommies rolling into target with their kids on one hip and a shotgun over the shoulder, supposedly, because they want people to get used to and feel safer with the general public carrying guns everywhere. but this guy, how dare he even try to get the words 'it's not real' out of his mouth -serves him right to get riddled with bullets..i just don't get it.

If this happened to a NRA card carrying person with a real gun, there would be an outrage. But, as Teddy pointed out, biases are a bytch to get over. It's hard for most folks to put themselves in another person's shoes. Especially in this case.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

You forgot to hilite this part of that story in red.

I personally believe that having a two parent household is one of the biggest, if not the biggest factor in the success of a child. It is extremely difficult for a single parent (usually the Mother), to properly raise and prepare a child for success in life. It can be done, but more often than not, the child or children tend to slip through the cracks.

The war on poverty, that actually made it worse, rewarded low income people for having babies out of wedlock. The slide down the abyss of decay, for black America, coincidentally started at the same time the massive social programs started.

It's so simple a

Update:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/26/video-shows-police-shot-ohio-man-on-sight-as-he-leaned-on-toy-gun-in-walmart-attorney-says/

Surveillance video shows an Ohio man talking on a cell phone, leaning on a toy gun, and facing away from officers moments before police shot and killed him in a Walmart store, according to an attorney for the man’s family.

That's been posted. The interesting part is, according to the families attorney. As if a attorney would spin a story.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

The war on poverty, that actually made it worse, rewarded low income people for having babies out of wedlock. The slide down the abyss of decay, for black America, coincidentally started at the same time the massive social programs started.

It's so simple a

That's been posted. The interesting part is, according to the families attorney. As if a attorney would spin a story.

They're not going to show a man being executed on TV, so unless there's another way to vet it, we'll have to wait. What's funny is you're all about fighting police brutality, but now you're like a doubting Thomas.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Of course. There's no way a cop would overreact and just shoot someone.

Did not say that either. I have been a big proponent of putting a check on the police. All I am saying is that I don't think the families attorney saying something makes it a fact. I want to wait until the facts come out.

Some people with limited understanding, somehow think that means, I think they should not have an attorney, which is a bizarre conclusion

That's nice. The cops didn't know the gun was a toy and according to police accounts, when he was told to drop the gun he turned and pointed it at them. Really doesn't matter that he was leaning on the gun before he got shot.

You have seen the video of the shooting ?

Please link me ?

If the video proves that he wasn't pointing the gun at them, it's going to be a shyt storm for sure.

No it's not. The cop is going to jail for a long time, as it should be

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

i don't see how anyone could be cool with someone in an open carry state, being shot and killed on sight for carrying legal merchandise in the middle of a walmart based completely on a 911 call. i don't care if the victim is neon green.

there are herds of mommies rolling into target with their kids on one hip and a shotgun over the shoulder, supposedly, because they want people to get used to and feel safer with the general public carrying guns everywhere. but this guy, how dare he even try to get the words 'it's not real' out of his mouth -serves him right to get riddled with bullets..i just don't get it.

But you don't know how it went down. If he pointed the gun at the cops, I have no problem with them firing. If not, then they need to go to jail. We just don't know at this point.

[decocker 7,198]

The war on poverty, that actually made it worse, rewarded low income people for having babies out of wedlock. The slide down the abyss of decay, for black America, coincidentally started at the same time the massive social programs started.

you seem to be repeating this a lot. don't be so foolish as to think that a peice of paper issued by the State is the key to a self sufficient family. you have such a biased view of single mothers and their children, i don't even know why i bother.

[decocker 7,198]

But you don't know how it went down. If he pointed the gun at the cops, I have no problem with them firing. If not, then they need to go to jail. We just don't know at this point.

i know from things you've said in the past, that you're biased against the victim, simply because he has dreadlocks.

[decocker 7,198]

If this happened to a NRA card carrying person with a real gun, there would be an outrage. But, as Teddy pointed out, biases are a bytch to get over. It's hard for most folks to put themselves in another person's shoes. Especially in this case.

bet there would be no 'the lawyer's just spinning the tape'

[Teddy B 17,252]

The war on poverty, that actually made it worse, rewarded low income people for having babies out of wedlock. The slide down the abyss of decay, for black America, coincidentally started at the same time the massive social programs started.

That might be applicable, except I don't ever remember Black America being anywhere near the top. Do you?

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

bet there would be no 'the lawyer's just spinning the tape'

Of course not. Then it would be "we're moving towards a police state".

[JohnR! 5,495]

+1000!

If this happened to a NRA card carrying person with a real gun, there would be an outrage. But, as Teddy pointed out, biases are a bytch to get over. It's hard for most folks to put themselves in another person's shoes. Especially in this case.