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What evidence do you have to the contrary of what has been reported thus far?

For one I didn't read anywhere that Crawford was stalking anyone. What I did read was that he was walking up and down the toy aisle while on the phone. Two, he told the police that the gun wasn't real or it was a toy (don't remember the exact words used). Edited by aaydrian
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For one I didn't read anywhere that Crawford was stalking anyone. What I did read was that he was walking up and down the toy aisle while on the phone. Two, he told the police that the gun wasn't real or it was a toy (don't remember the exact words used).

Stalking was a word I used. It has since been said that "brandishing" would be more appropriate and I agree. Did you watch the eyewitness interview on the news video? I've linked it below. Of course when he said the gun wasn't real, everyone should just believe him, cause no one would lie about that sort of thing, right? He needed to drop the gun when told to do so, he chose not to and he turned and pointed it at the police, that proved to be a fatal choice.

http://www.whio.com/videos/news/man-who-called-911-in-walmart-shooting-talks-to/vCmptw/

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The bottom line is that John Crawford is dead for doing nothing more than shopping in a store and minding his business. ... He just happened to do it while being black. And being black in America means you are always a threat.

Looks like they ignored the whole story and try to make it about race. ... Instead you have the stupidity of a person that chose to ignore to respond to a law officer that has a gun pointed at him.. Put the gun down.

If more citizens were armed, criminals would think twice about attacking them, Detroit Police Chief James Craig

Florida currently has more concealed-carry permit holders than any other state, with 1,269,021 issued as of May 14, 2014

The liberal elite ... know that the people simply cannot be trusted; that they are incapable of just and fair self-government; that left to their own devices, their society will be racist, sexist, homophobic, and inequitable -- and the liberal elite know how to fix things. They are going to help us live the good and just life, even if they have to lie to us and force us to do it. And they detest those who stand in their way."
- A Nation Of Cowards, by Jeffrey R. Snyder

Tavis Smiley: 'Black People Will Have Lost Ground in Every Single Economic Indicator' Under Obama

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The bottom line is that John Crawford is dead for doing nothing more than shopping in a store and minding his business. ... He just happened to do it while being black. And being black in America means you are always a threat.

Looks like they ignored the whole story and try to make it about race. ... Instead you have the stupidity of a person that chose to ignore to respond to a law officer that has a gun pointed at him.. Put the gun down.

In the articles I presented to you, neither one of those men put the gun down.

The first kid grabbed the cop's gun and got a shot off. He was subdued. Considering he was high and actually fighting the cops, if they would have shot him, it would have been justified.

The second guy didn't drop the gun. It was slapped out of his hands by a police officer. Why didn't they shoot him?

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In the articles I presented to you, neither one of those men put the gun down.

The first kid grabbed the cop's gun and got a shot off. He was subdued. Considering he was high and actually fighting the cops, if they would have shot him, it would have been justified.

The second guy didn't drop the gun. It was slapped out of his hands by a police officer. Why didn't they shoot him?

How come it only makes the news when black people get shot by the police. As I have posted here, recently, an unarmed white kid with headphones on was gunned down by the police recently, for pulling his pants up. No reports of him going for a gun or charging the cop.

No new media, no white house involvement. Maybe Obama only cares when it happens to black kids

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In the articles I presented to you, neither one of those men put the gun down.

The first kid grabbed the cop's gun and got a shot off. He was subdued. Considering he was high and actually fighting the cops, if they would have shot him, it would have been justified.

The second guy didn't drop the gun. It was slapped out of his hands by a police officer. Why didn't they shoot him?

Probably because we never hear about the stories when an idiot white guy points a BB gun at a cop and gets killed for it. We only hear about when it's an idiot black guy.

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In the articles I presented to you, neither one of those men put the gun down.

The first kid grabbed the cop's gun and got a shot off. He was subdued. Considering he was high and actually fighting the cops, if they would have shot him, it would have been justified.

The second guy didn't drop the gun. It was slapped out of his hands by a police officer. Why didn't they shoot him?

Always about deflection with you Marvin...This article was written in a manner to incite racial hatred among the readers.. Just a race bating article. Covering up the real reason why he was shot. ...Was this article written to get a racial response in light of what happened in your town.

If more citizens were armed, criminals would think twice about attacking them, Detroit Police Chief James Craig

Florida currently has more concealed-carry permit holders than any other state, with 1,269,021 issued as of May 14, 2014

The liberal elite ... know that the people simply cannot be trusted; that they are incapable of just and fair self-government; that left to their own devices, their society will be racist, sexist, homophobic, and inequitable -- and the liberal elite know how to fix things. They are going to help us live the good and just life, even if they have to lie to us and force us to do it. And they detest those who stand in their way."
- A Nation Of Cowards, by Jeffrey R. Snyder

Tavis Smiley: 'Black People Will Have Lost Ground in Every Single Economic Indicator' Under Obama

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Stalking was a word I used. It has since been said that "brandishing" would be more appropriate and I agree. Did you watch the eyewitness interview on the news video? I've linked it below. Of course when he said the gun wasn't real, everyone should just believe him, cause no one would lie about that sort of thing, right? He needed to drop the gun when told to do so, he chose not to and he turned and pointed it at the police, that proved to be a fatal choice.

http://www.whio.com/videos/news/man-who-called-911-in-walmart-shooting-talks-to/vCmptw/

Didn't watch the clip. It won't play.

Everyone reacts differently. Saying "Drop the gun/weapon" does not mean you, me or anyone else would do just that if they thought it was just a typical shopping day. Even someone who is intelligent and rich in common sense has that one moment where they do something that doesn't make sense. It has happened to me and in hindsight I knew I shouldn't have done this or that. Also when you are not in a situation it is easy to judge and say what Joe or Cindy should have done.

Did Crawford turn around and the gun ended up pointed in the police's direction? Or did Crawford turn around and aim the gun at the police?

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I have no idea about the law in that state but if its an open carry state IF the man was not pointing the gun (toy) at the officers wasnt it part of their job to ask what was going on instead of just shooting? or stating drop your weapon as he could legally carry the weapon so why would they state drop it if its open carry state?

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I have no idea about the law in that state but if its an open carry state IF the man was not pointing the gun (toy) at the officers wasnt it part of their job to ask what was going on instead of just shooting? or stating drop your weapon as he could legally carry the weapon so why would they state drop it if its open carry state?

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Of course it is. You can't just walk up and start blasting because he has a gun. However if you are surrounded by police, who have guns pointed at you screaming to drop the weapon and you don't. well the Darwin thing .

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Probably because we never hear about the stories when an idiot white guy points a BB gun at a cop and gets killed for it. We only hear about when it's an idiot black guy.

The kid got a shot off with the cop's gun, he was way more of a threat.

Always about deflection with you Marvin...This article was written in a manner to incite racial hatred among the readers.. Just a race bating article. Covering up the real reason why he was shot. ...Was this article written to get a racial response in light of what happened in your town.

I don't deflect anything. Just answering your question that apparently some people can not put the gun down, and not get shot.

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The kid got a shot off with the cop's gun, he was way more of a threat.

I don't deflect anything. Just answering your question that apparently some people can not put the gun down, and not get shot.

This article was written in a manner to incite racial hatred among the readers.. Just a race bating article

More deflection... no answer no justice

If more citizens were armed, criminals would think twice about attacking them, Detroit Police Chief James Craig

Florida currently has more concealed-carry permit holders than any other state, with 1,269,021 issued as of May 14, 2014

The liberal elite ... know that the people simply cannot be trusted; that they are incapable of just and fair self-government; that left to their own devices, their society will be racist, sexist, homophobic, and inequitable -- and the liberal elite know how to fix things. They are going to help us live the good and just life, even if they have to lie to us and force us to do it. And they detest those who stand in their way."
- A Nation Of Cowards, by Jeffrey R. Snyder

Tavis Smiley: 'Black People Will Have Lost Ground in Every Single Economic Indicator' Under Obama

white-privilege.jpg?resize=318%2C318

Democrats>Socialists>Communists - Same goals, different speeds.

#DeplorableLivesMatter

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