No Reason Denial. URGENT HELP.

[Ryan H 3,812]

OP, here are 3 possible outcomes with this petition ranging from most likely to least likely once USCIS receives it back:

• They will allow the validity to expire and simply tell you to feel free to start over at square 1.
• They will send you a Notice of Intent to Revoke (NOIR). If you receive an NOIR, you must respond with a rebuttal to all reasons stated on the notice and do so by the stated deadline.
• They will reaffirm the petition without asking for any additional items from you.

[butterflies0124 8]

I'm really sorry to hear that. There is a USCIS site that lists out rejected petitions.

I'm not sure they include all rejects or not. If you pull up some of the cases,

they specifically describe their reject reasons.

http://www.uscis.gov/laws/admin-decisions?topic_id=1&newdir=D6+-+Fiancees+and+Fiances+of+U.S.+Citizen+%28K-1%29%2FDecisions_Issued_in_2014/

All the best...and keep us posted.

I am reading through that website and look at the low number of cases they go through. Just 3 in January and 1 in February. I have started from the bottom, and I'm reviewing the reasons... those cases the denial is obvious - didn't meet in 2 years prior, didn't file a waiver, didn't file a required form. Can't figure out what happened to us yet.

[Wait4ever? 50]

I am reading through that website and look at the low number of cases they go through. Just 3 in January and 1 in February. I have started from the bottom, and I'm reviewing the reasons... those cases the denial is obvious - didn't meet in 2 years prior, didn't file a waiver, didn't file a required form. Can't figure out what happened to us yet.

Just an FYI - this link only covers denials for I-129F petitions, not denials of K-1 visa by embassies. So this might not help in your case.

[Sekhvaruli 74]

Something makes me think, that, if they don't let you know the reason, they suspect fraud. And probably will never let you know that, to prevent the applicants, they suspect to be fraudsters, from getting read of the reason of their suspect.

[Maxzim 37]

Hi, this just happened to my fiancé and me on the 7th in the Dominican Republic. No reason given, sooo many questions were asked, and after the second round of questioning, I was sure we were fine, because we had answered all of the questions the same. We were given a letter and told the case would be sent back to USCIS. But the woman never called it a denial. I contacted my Congressman's office, and they are reaching out to the embassy, since they would not give me any information, to see if anything can be done and when the case is scheduled to go back to USCIS. From everything I have researched though, it seems a re-affirmed case is very unlikely. We went to see a lawyer and their recommendation was to get married and begin the spouse petition. However, we could wait it out he said. Send me a message if you would like to discuss further.

I am sorry to hear this and understand your pain. Stay strong! thanks for the discussion offer. I will contact you!

I watched your video. First, when they received the package they immediately dismantled your binder and threw it away. You included some little things thrown in the plastic pages, those might have gotten lost too. And, they will not read links or electronic stuff so they did not read your facebook chats at all.

How did you become a USC?

Did you get engaged on your first meeting?

Your parents know eachother, did you keep in touch all these years?

Where do your and her parents live?

Little things? the only little things were passport photos and I attached them with a paper clip. I know it should have been in a plastic bag. But they would request additional or completed docs if they lost it, wouldn't they?

I got my Naturalized citizenship after 5 years risiding in the state of Iowa after family reunion(My mother got married to a US citizen and after her arival, my step-dad applied docs for me.) imigration process.

We got engaged on our Second visit.

our parents do not keep in touch. Her parents are relatives of our family friends so they would hang out together on occasions' gatherings such as birthdays and stuff. Her mother passed away 6 years ago and her dad had a new family and they are settled in Baku. don't see that as a potential reason either.

Duplicate threads on the same topic have been merged together in one location - it is never a good idea to post the same topic in several different places.

Moderator hat off -

I watched your video. It looked like an excellent petition package and obviously got approved by USCIS in the US. Something at the Consulate level, however, acted to counter that package.

There are still 3 areas that come to mind: a) the familial connections - how 'quickly' the relationship developed may allow them to think that this is a family plan to arrange for your fiancee, and eventually her family to come to the US. I am not sure about the fraud level in her country but in view of the evidence that you did provide, I think they would be hard pushed to justify that one.

b) a security check on your fiancee revealed a possible problem - any interaction with the law, any previous immigration related activity, anything like that - especially if it was not revealed anywhere in the petition or at the interview

c) You provided them with your Facebook access - if there was something somewhere on her pages not related to you that sounded suspicious to them, they may have determined she is not being honest about the relationship in some way

Anyway, good luck.

Sorry moderator. just thought maybe there are users that checking only that area in particular.

Kathryn41, Thanks. It is not a high fraud country. My fiancee didn't have any imigration activities before nor she had any interaction with the law. The only thing about that is she studied in Russia for 6 years. and last 2 years, her master's degree is for International Relation. Considering that U.S. is not friends with Russia now, could that have an impact. Focud on her Master's was relation between Azerbaijan and Russia tho. had nothing to do with US.

Something makes me think, that, if they don't let you know the reason, they suspect fraud. And probably will never let you know that, to prevent the applicants, they suspect to be fraudsters, from getting read of the reason of their suspect.

I am thinking the same thing but about that she studied in Russia. because of Politi Relationship between this two countries they may have personal not liking nationality. which like you said, they will never admit that....

Ugh

Edited August 20, 2014 by Maxzim

[ashleyphilly 70]

Something makes me think, that, if they don't let you know the reason, they suspect fraud. And probably will never let you know that, to prevent the applicants, they suspect to be fraudsters, from getting read of the reason of their suspect.

so you think there is fraud from the beneficiary's side?

[Green color 0]

Good morning guys. Just had interview in US Embassy of Tbilisi, Georgia... Denied... Was told docs are getting sent back to USCIS and if we have questions contact them. no explanation what so ever.

My fiancee had to go travel to a different country for the interview. Is there anything she can do there now? or she can leave the country and go back home?

The only POSSIBLE reason I can think of they could deny her is that she studied in Russia for the last 6 years. and just graduated. so she had no job, no commitments back in Azerbaijan:( COuld that really be a reason?

Other reasons such as proof of relationship, meeting in person, financial support etc is out of questions. we never even got an RFE in the original petition:(

This entire process was going too perfect:( I knew this was too good to be true to be with the love of my life in less than a month:(......

My life is crushed right now...

I can not believe this happened. I want to wake up:( all efforts, all plans, money, everything is WASTED:(

If I recall reading this forum correctly, if petittion goes back to USCIS that's pretty much a no no and it makes sense to get married and apply from scratch. Is it even worth calling USCIS like we were advised after the interview?

THOUGHTS?

Did you have interview with CO in Almay, Kazakhstan?

[Maxzim 37]

Did you have interview with CO in Almay, Kazakhstan?

Tbilisi, Georgia

[Girl from Celebes 588]

There was a case here where the beneficiary was denied for K-1 visa. The petition was returned to USCIS to revoked. The petitioner decided to marry the beneficiary. Oddly enough, after a few months their petition was reaffirmed and returned to the embassy and create a confusion since they both were already married. My advise is, just wait until you hear anything from USCIS, keep making contact both embassy and USCIS, visit your fiancee and give her moral supports. It is devastating and both of you have to give in a shoulder to cry on to each other.

[Maxzim 37]

There was a case here where the beneficiary was denied for K-1 visa. The petition was returned to USCIS to revoked. The petitioner decided to marry the beneficiary. Oddly enough, after a few months their petition was reaffirmed and returned to the embassy and create a confusion since they both were already married. My advise is, just wait until you hear anything from USCIS, keep making contact both embassy and USCIS, visit your fiancee and give her moral supports. It is devastating and both of you have to give in a shoulder to cry on to each other.

Hmmm, interesting. Can't you just easily cancel k1 petition?

And thanks for the supportive words. That's what I am working on right now. to get a permission from my boss to either work from home or give me a big unpaid vacation. I know this is not realted, but does anybody know, if let's say I moved to Azerbaijan and worked from there and lived there for 6-12 month. would that affect spouse visa process?

[Girl from Celebes 588]

Hmmm, interesting. Can't you just easily cancel k1 petition?

And thanks for the supportive words. That's what I am working on right now. to get a permission from my boss to either work from home or give me a big unpaid vacation. I know this is not realted, but does anybody know, if let's say I moved to Azerbaijan and worked from there and lived there for 6-12 month. would that affect spouse visa process?

I believe since they thought it would be expired any way and make them did not proactive to see if the petition was still in review at USCIS. They were shocked after USCIS confirmed about their petition because they were both already married and no longer suitable for K-1 visa. I tried to find you the post, unfortunately it seems buried somewhere on K-1 visa sub-forum.

[Sekhvaruli 74]

so you think there is fraud from the beneficiary's side?

No, I don't think so. It's what the consular officer might have thought.

[Sekhvaruli 74]

I am thinking the same thing but about that she studied in Russia. because of Politi Relationship between this two countries they may have personal not liking nationality. which like you said, they will never admit that....

Ugh

I don't believe it's true. People from Russian get approved every day, so, studying in Russia can't be the reason.

Edited August 20, 2014 by Sekhvaruli

[Sekhvaruli 74]

Hmmm, interesting. Can't you just easily cancel k1 petition?

And thanks for the supportive words. That's what I am working on right now. to get a permission from my boss to either work from home or give me a big unpaid vacation. I know this is not realted, but does anybody know, if let's say I moved to Azerbaijan and worked from there and lived there for 6-12 month. would that affect spouse visa process?

That will benefit the spouse visa process. What is the best proof of bona fide relationship, if not abandoning the comfortable life in the US for the sake of being with your sweetheart?

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

I am thinking the same thing but about that she studied in Russia. because of Politi Relationship between this two countries they may have personal not liking nationality. which like you said, they will never admit that....

Ugh

I know you are hurting, but that is most definitely not the reason. People get approved from Iran and Cuba.

Either they don't believe that the relationship is real, or she is inadmissible in some way, like she is already married or something.