Just Got Engaged - Want a Tourist Visa (No K-1)

[Girl from Celebes 588]

For those who say that PIP is only for those already in the US, here's the bit that pertains about aliens arriving in the US:

Would you care to share why you think your spouse will eligible for Parole in Place?

I read this article and am wondering why you are "insisting" to choose PIP instead rather than a regular visa.

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/adjustment-status-via-parole-place-family-members-us-citizens-military.html

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

So you want to get a visa, then not use that visa and enter illegally instead? What is the purpose of getting the visa then, wasting money for jollies?

[Girl from Celebes 588]

So you want to get a visa, then not use that visa and enter illegally instead? What is the purpose of getting the visa then, wasting money for jollies?

Maybe because when adjust of status through PIP, people don't have to pay any fees?

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

Maybe because when adjust of status through PIP, people don't have to pay any fees?

Well that's not true They have to pay more, I believe.

My theory is that the OP just found this thing and since it says military, he thinks that he has to do this or that it is something better for military. It's not better, it's to help people already in bad situations.

Edited August 16, 2014 by Harpa Timsah

[Girl from Celebes 588]

Well that's not true They have to pay more, I believe.

Oh well, I read this article. It says there is no fee for this application. Or maybe I misread the instruction.

Step Three: Apply for Parole in Place Approval

You cant jump straight to applying for your green card (adjustment of status), or your application will be rejected. First, you must take care of the issue of your illegal entry to the U.S., and request parole in place. To do so, you must prepare and submit the following to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS):

Form I-131, Application for Travel Document

Evidence of the family relationship to the U.S. citizen military serviceperson (such as a copy of a birth or marriage certificate)

Evidence that the U.S. citizen family member is either an Active Duty member of the U.S. Armed Forces, in the Selected Reserve of the Ready Reserve, or previously served in the U.S. Armed Forces or the Selected Reserve or the Ready Reserve, such as a photocopy of the military identification card (DD Form 1173; make copies of both the front and back).

Two identical, color, passport-style photographs of the noncitizen applicant, and

Evidence of any additional favorable discretionary factors that you wish to have USCIS take into account, such as letters from community leaders or teachers showing your involvement in volunteer activities, personal education, or your children's education.

There is no fee for this application. (Based on 8 C.F.R. 103.7(d).)

See the Form I-131 page of the USCIS website for a free download of the form and instructions on where to mail it.

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/adjustment-status-via-parole-place-family-members-us-citizens-military.html

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

Still have to pay for the AOS ($1500+), I am sure, and then a I-601 waiver (more $), I believe.

Edited August 16, 2014 by Harpa Timsah

[Griffinco 1]

Would you care to share why you think your spouse will eligible for Parole in Place?

I read this article and am wondering why you are "insisting" to choose PIP instead rather than a regular visa.

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/adjustment-status-via-parole-place-family-members-us-citizens-military.html

Because it's much faster than the Visa route and it's a legal option made available to Veterans and their spouses.

Harpa Timsah

Posted Today, 12:51 PM

So you want to get a visa, then not use that visa and enter illegally instead? What is the purpose of getting the visa then, wasting money for jollies?

1. She would like to visit to meet my family and see where I live before getting married

2. There is nothing illegal about asking for PiP for alien spouses as they arrive into the US (see my quote a few posts back.)

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

There is a risk the whole thing is denied, why do that to someone you love?

Have you looked at the normal options? Why not?

If she gets a tourist visa, then it is MUCH better for her, and cheaper, to use that visa to enter instead of trying to enter illegally.

That's like saying, I got free tickets to the White House Dinner, but instead I want to try to sneak in over the fence and hope the Secret Service doesn't catch me.

Something is not adding up.

Edited August 16, 2014 by Harpa Timsah

[Girl from Celebes 588]

Still have to pay for the AOS ($1500+), I am sure, and then a I-601 waiver (more $), I believe.

Oh, okay. I was thinking maybe the OP was trying to saved up money and time by choose this route - sorry for the OP, I am not trying to offend you-.

[Girl from Celebes 588]

Because it's much faster than the Visa route and it's a legal option made available to Veterans and their spouses.

1. She would like to visit to meet my family and see where I live before getting married

2. There is nothing illegal about asking for PiP for alien spouses as they arrive into the US (see my quote a few posts back.)

If she comes to visit the US as your fiancée ( see your post number 1) through PIP, she won't qualified as your spouse or immediate relative. Or I missed out something from your posts?

[Super King 26]

I believe PIP is for those people who entered without inspection and are now immediate relative of active or retired military USC. If your fiancée gets tourist visa, then she won't be entering US without inspection.

[milimelo 4,481]

Fiance is not a relative.

DS-160 asks for that info and yes, fiance/fiancee is included.

[Boiler 45,541]

DS-160 asks for that info and yes, fiance/fiancee is included.

Interesting, they did not use to ask about Fiancee and when it is semi subjective anyway seem little point.

[Boiler 45,541]

There is a risk the whole thing is denied, why do that to someone you love?

Have you looked at the normal options? Why not?

If she gets a tourist visa, then it is MUCH better for her, and cheaper, to use that visa to enter instead of trying to enter illegally.

That's like saying, I got free tickets to the White House Dinner, but instead I want to try to sneak in over the fence and hope the Secret Service doesn't catch me.

Something is not adding up.

I think it goes like this, never seen this one before, all the cases I have come across involve spouses/parents who have entered without inspection. Now PiP means they do not have to leave, they do not trigger the ban and can adjust like anybody else who entered legally.

However you can of course be Paroled in rather than admitted. The common situation here is when somebody uses AP after having come in on a K1.

But there are other types of Parole, Humanitarian Parole for example.

As an aside I have seem many cases where people have obtained DACA, leave and come back on AP, and then simply adjust through marriage.

So after all that what he wants is for her to turn up at the Border and apply for Parole to enter the US. As has been pointed out that would be tricky flying as how would you get on a Plane in the first place.

But it seems quite possible to do this at a land border, assuming you can get to one, Mexico seems the most obvious but should work in Canada as well.

So to summarise:

Get married

Spouse gets to US border by whatever means available.

No need for Visa, requests to be Paroled in through PiP, I thought there was a small charge but minor anyway.

Applies to adjust status using the normal process.

Slightly trickier than flying direct but very time efficient overall. No need to wait a year for CR1/K3, lot quicker than K1.

[Boiler 45,541]

Just another thought, and I do not know, but can she apply for Parole at the Consulate? Then she would basically fly in like anybody else who has obtained AP.