The Michael Brown Shooting Official Thread

[Operator 1,927]

The Police Chief has said that the officer who shot Brown didn't know he was a suspect in a robbery.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I don't care what a person was doing beforehand, if a person puts up their arms to surrender, they should not be shot or attacked again. This should be the same for a petty thief or a murderer. Let the justice system handle it, if the person is surrendering.

I am very concerned about some people's apparent belief that petty crime deserves death, both in this instance, if the person had been stealing, or in the case of a home invasion, where people think that an unarmed person deserves to die for stealing a tv.

Is it that people don't value life? Is it that their fear is so strong that they don't care about life anymore? What if they were mistaken for a thief and a policeman shot them?

None thinks petty crime deserves eat and none thinks you should be shot while surrendering. However if the kid attacked the cop, and was beating him in his police car. Yes deadly force is justified. Know once shot if the kid was 25ft away trying to surrender and was shot 5 more times... Then we have an issue

The Police Chief has said that the officer who shot Brown didn't know he was a suspect in a robbery.

That well may be, but Brown knew he had just committed a crime. His mindset is very important.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

I disagree. I am not okay with it in many instances. People are too shoot-crazy, and this line of thinking is being fed to them by the NRA, that they need to be afraid, and ready to shoot, at anything and everything. If the burglar is not actively attacking people in their home, take your gun and point it at them, and tell them to get the hell out of your house, don't kill them. And don't kill them when they are running away, or leaving, or have their back turned, or a million other things.

If the burglar's lucky, someone would just point the gun at him and tell him not to move and call the police. Telling him to run away is nonsense.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

If the burglar's lucky, someone would just point the gun at him and tell him not to move and call the police. Telling him to run away is nonsense.

Nonsense is something that makes no sense. Pointing a gun at someone who has entered your home in the middle of the night, and asking them to leave.. Thats dangerous.

[Operator 1,927]

That well may be, but Brown knew he had just committed a crime. His mindset is very important.

Can you link to your source?

[decocker 7,198]

Now what remains to be established in my mind is, after being shot once. Did Brown flee, then turn to with his hands up and at the point was he shot several more times ??

it's important that cops are skilled in diffusing potentially violent situations, which they don't appear to be well versed in as we've seen with the multiple stories of cops accidently kiling the suicidal youth or people with mental illnesses they've been called to protect by well intentioned family members.

if anything maybe police should rethink the ' rude cop ' approach - the whole alpha dog presentation, when first encountering a citizen. the cop didn't know brown was the robbery suspect at the time and brown probably assumed he did.

[aaydrian 479]

That well may be, but Brown knew he had just committed a crime. His mindset is very important.

Based on what the friend of Brown said, they were approached twice by the officer because they were told to get out the street for Jay walking. I think that rules out the possibility that Brown thought he was being approached because of the theft he committed.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Can you link to your source?

Ok you got me

I can't prove that Brown recognized, in his mind that he had just robbed a store. I freely admit, he could have been fried on drugs or possibly had a mental problem, that would have prevented him from knowing what he had just (allegedly) done

I think the allegedly , might have been what you were looking for, but it's VJ, I got to do it a certain way

Based on what the friend of Brown said, they were approached twice by the officer because they were told to get out the street for Jay walking. I think that rules out the possibility that Brown thought he was being approached because of the theft he committed.

Based on his accomplice in the robbery, who has a story that is already full of holes ? You mean that guy ?

it's important that cops are skilled in diffusing potentially violent situations, which they don't appear to be well versed in as we've seen with the multiple stories of cops accidently kiling the suicidal youth or people with mental illnesses they've been called to protect by well intentioned family members.

if anything maybe police should rethink the ' rude cop ' approach - the whole alpha dog presentation, when first encountering a citizen. the cop didn't know brown was the robbery suspect at the time and brown probably assumed he did.

Bingo once again Val..

[decocker 7,198]

Bingo once again Val..

it's so weird that you agree with me considering i said the same thing about gz following tm.

[aaydrian 479]

Based on his accomplice in the robbery, who has a story that is already full of holes ? You mean that guy ?

As of right now he's not being charged with anything and even if he was he would still make a decent witness.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

As of right now he's not being charged with anything and even if he was he would still make a decent witness.

You think that if someone was charged as an accomplice to a felony, they would make a good witness for the prosecution ??

I just want to make sure I understood you ?

Edited August 15, 2014 by The Nature Boy

[Boiler 45,525]

Police have said they are not charging him.

[aaydrian 479]

You think that if someone was charged as an accomplice to a felony, they would make a good witness for the prosecution ??

I just want to make sure I understood you ?

Yes if that individual has been proven to be forthcoming with information

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Yes if that individual has been proven to be forthcoming with information

If they charged him, which Boiler just said they are not, no prosecutor in the world would put him on the stand.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

it's so weird that you agree with me considering i said the same thing about gz following tm.

You know my problem. I keep learning the same lesson over and over with Wimmnes. I pay a woman a compliment, and expect some acknowledgment that , wow he is making an attempt to be nice. What do I get. Something that happened a year ago, then I get surprised once again. Why do i keep getting surprised, when i should have learned by know this is typical .

Oh Harpa I am borrowing this trick from you

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