The Michael Brown Shooting Official Thread

[decocker 7,198]

They would be met with an increased response, that would escalate to whatever degree was needed to keep the Police force up and running, and rightly so.

maybe that's why the protestors aren't taking that approach.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I've always found it silly that people need to have an arsenal of weapons to protect themselves. Also, that there's no good reason for citizens to be armed in 2014. This Ferguson thing seems to be making the case that it's good to be armed when the cops are unwilling/unable to do their jobs.

If the cops do their job, they are being brutal and using excessive force. If they don't, the folks want to know why they just stood there and let people loot their home or business.

When the thugs were breaking windows, stealing and trying to burn business, if the cops had responded with whatever force it took to stop them, they would have been crucified.

If a gang is ransacking the business of someone who has worked their butts off their whole life to have something, then the police need to use whatever force is required to stop them. I can bet you a million bucks, that if when the 1st store was looted, the police had swarmed with force, and arrested everyone present, it would have stopped a lot of it .

Back in the late 60's here. we had a rash of these kind of things and armed robberies. The mayor put random police hidden in stores, with shot to kill orders. It stopped that night .

[decocker 7,198]

Exactly. That's my point. They don't have this fear when they're looting Joe Schmoes business. Maybe they should.

wait. you're talking about looters - i'm talking about protestors.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

maybe that's why the protestors aren't taking that approach.

well duh ?

And maybe if they took that approach to protect the property of law abiding citizens, the protestors would not do that either .

[decocker 7,198]

And you still cause trouble on a daily basis.

And maybe if they took that approach to protect the property of law abiding citizens, the protestors would not do that either .

wut?

[lostinblue 1,989]

The accounts of what happened are at opposite ends of the spectrum. The cop knows what really happened, or how it appeared to him. Did Brown try to prevent the cop from getting out of the cruiser or did the door hit him in the leg when the cop was getting out as has been claimed? Did the cop overreact and think the kid slammed the door on him? Did the cop reach out the window and grab Brown because of this? Did Brown simply struggle to get free? Very important details. Is it even possible to get an accurate picture of what happened during this confrontation?

So police training says if you want to subdue a suspect ....That will give you the best advantage in a confrontation....stay inside the car while leaning out the window?.. Because they are 6 ft and 300 pounds. ?...They don't even do that in the movies..... Grab the perp while you roll on by. just don't hang out too.far....

[Teddy B 17,252]

If the cops do their job, they are being brutal and using excessive force. If they don't, the folks want to know why they just stood there and let people loot their home or business.

When the thugs were breaking windows, stealing and trying to burn business, if the cops had responded with whatever force it took to stop them, they would have been crucified.

If a gang is ransacking the business of someone who has worked their butts off their whole life to have something, then the police need to use whatever force is required to stop them. I can bet you a million bucks, that if when the 1st store was looted, the police had swarmed with force, and arrested everyone present, it would have stopped a lot of it .

IMO, it's times like these that do require excessive force to keep things from spiraling out of control.

[Karee 4,190]

wait. you're talking about looters - i'm talking about protestors.

Yes, I'm talking about looters. And vandals as well.

[decocker 7,198]

I've always found it silly that people need to have an arsenal of weapons to protect themselves. Also, that there's no good reason for citizens to be armed in 2014. This Ferguson thing seems to be making the case that it's good to be armed when the cops are unwilling/unable to do their jobs.

then i guess the mass overload coverage of this thing is having the desired effect. getting people scared, and really there's not much worse than a scared person with a gun.

also, creepy that smoke feels he's hand sculpting you. coming along nicely, lol.

Yes, I'm talking about looters. And vandals as well.

hype.

[Teddy B 17,252]

then i guess the mass overload coverage of this thing is having the desired effect. getting people scared, and really there's not much worse than a scared person with a gun.

also, creepy that smoke feels he's hand sculpting you. coming along nicely, lol.

hype.

Glad I'm not the only one.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

IMO, it's times like these that do require excessive force to keep things from spiraling out of control.

There is hope for you yet Obi-Wan

[GandD 5,966]

sure.

when i was 15-16 i stole maddog on pretty much a weekly basis. i got in a couple heated verbal arguments with a couple different store's employees when followed and questioned. i also had a couple sketchy dealings with local police. i'm lucky i guess that i was never 'caught', i escaped my teenage years without so much as a parking ticket. i'm lucky. and also white.

And female.

[decocker 7,198]

And female.

also true.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I assume the police station is in their neighborhood. Why don't they go there and loot or burn that place? It seems the problem they have is with the cops. I'm guessing they wont do that out of fear of being shot. The point I'm making is that if the police can't protect you from these criminals, than it seems you should arm yourself and protect your property. Seems to work for the police.

The point you're missing is this. Do you honestly believe there are no guns there? There are guns in these neighborhoods, but folks there are less likely to start shooting at looters than in a suburb.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

The point you're missing is this. Do you honestly believe there are no guns there? There are guns in these neighborhoods, but folks there are less likely to start shooting at looters than in a suburb.

People should have a right to defend their home and business against looters, with deadly force if needed.