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Christianity and Islam are both very intolerant of Homosexuality, and that is a shame. You seem to be asserting that because you found one gay Iman, in the world, that Islam is more tolerant of homosexuality than Christianity., also using one church in the US that refused to bury a gay person. Your sampling population was 2,

A person, as intelligent as you, will quickly recognize that using two isolated occurrences, hardly speaks to trends or overall acceptance of homosexuals by either religion. There are several christian denominations in the US, that ordain openly gay clergy and there are many hundreds of openly gay clergy in the US.

If we expand your hypothesis to a much larger sampling of the worlds population. Let's compare the US to Saudi Arabia. In the US there are many hundreds of openly gay clergy, however in Saudi Arabia, being openly gay will garner you punishment raging from flogging all the way to stoning.

So using your sub-par logic and 2 isolated incidents, you asset a logical conclusion. Surely using a sampling population that is not laughable, you would agree with the same logic.

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Neither does Christianity. But it does depend on where you are. Think about how long it took for this country to endorse same sex marriage.

What's so funny about folks that are super conservative and hate Islam, is that Sharia law is exactly what it would be like if the Bible was followed to the letter. The same folks that want torture and murder to be a everyday punishment, would fit in just fine in the same countries they can't stand.

Actually several denominations of Christianity accept Homosexuality . Lutherans, Presbyterians are two just off the top of my head

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Neither does Christianity. But it does depend on where you are. Think about how long it took for this country to endorse same sex marriage.

What's so funny about folks that are super conservative and hate Islam, is that Sharia law is exactly what it would be like if the Bible was followed to the letter. The same folks that want torture and murder to be a everyday punishment, would fit in just fine in the same countries they can't stand.

If we did not have a constitution that called for separation of church and state, and the far right Christians ran the govt, we would indeed look very much like Saudi, I have no doubt of that

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Compared to other developed nations? You betcha!

Mureica sucks right ? That is why we have such a problem with illegal immigration

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There's an illegal immigration problem with migrants from other developed nations? Which one's would those be?

Germany comes to mind

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Actually several denominations of Christianity accept Homosexuality . Lutherans, Presbyterians are two just off the top of my head

The point of my post was that both are similar in nature and in teachings.

About two years ago, when I first joined here, someone posted about Muslims not being able to eat at Subway. They were kicked out for no good reason. This happened in Louisiana, I believe. Of course one of the members had to come in and start hating. I tried to defuse the situation by being nice. He asked what were the Quran's views on gays. I posted the verse (forbidden) then turned around and posted the Bible's verse(almost word for word the same). That's when it turned nasty.

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"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

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If we did not have a constitution that called for separation of church and state, and the far right Christians ran the govt, we would indeed look very much like Saudi, I have no doubt of that

And that's the joke most super conservatives can't see. They want Sharia law, just as long as it's not called that. Hanging, public executions, torture, harsher punishments for even the most trivial crimes, and getting rid of the "undesirable" folks. Welcome to Saudi 2.0.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

President-Obama-jpg.jpg

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The point of my post was that both are similar in nature and in teachings.

About two years ago, when I first joined here, someone posted about Muslims not being able to eat at Subway. They were kicked out for no good reason. This happened in Louisiana, I believe. Of course one of the members had to come in and start hating. I tried to defuse the situation by being nice. He asked what were the Quran's views on gays. I posted the verse (forbidden) then turned around and posted the Bible's verse(almost word for word the same). That's when it turned nasty.

I think that Isalm has a much bigger problem with uneducated fundamentalist buttwipes than Christianity does, although Chrtanity has it's share.

I attribute this to the fact that Islam is much more prevalent in more uneducated poorer countries, where people use it to suppress the masses and it's part of their Govt. I think if you had the strict separation of church and state in Islamic countries , I think the radicals would become much less radical

Really? How many illegal immigrants arrive from Germany every week? How many of them do we have here?

1 too many legal or otherwise :devil:

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And that's the joke most super conservatives can't see. They want Sharia law, just as long as it's not called that. Hanging, public executions, torture, harsher punishments for even the most trivial crimes, and getting rid of the "undesirable" folks. Welcome to Saudi 2.0.

I know. It would be hilarious, if they started allowing prayer in School and on the first day a crowd gathered, then the Muslim Principal came out to lead them with his prayer mat. Those bird brains can't see that no state sanctioned religion is in place, to protect them .

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