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Filed: I-1 Visa Country: Russia
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Posted

Hi all,

I filed i130 for my mom to come here from Russia and got approved. I've reviewed the documents that might be needed from me at some point in the process and it seems as though I will need my previous marriage certificate. Unfortunately, I only have the divorce certificate from that marriage. Me and my mother are currently under the same last name. Can anyone confirm that I still need the marriage certificate or will the divorce certificate from that marriage be sufficient. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: China
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Posted (edited)

Wait...I provided wrong link the first time...checking facts again...

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Checked again...it seems your birth certificate is needed to

show your relationship to your mother.

If you are sponsoring both your mother and father,

then I think you need their marriage certificate to prove

their marriage.

http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-130instr.pdf

Can you provide the link where it says, your marriage certificate is needed?

Edited by DualityOneness
10-04-2013 We met online
11-21-2013 We met in person in Shanghai for 2 weeks

12-13-2013 I-129F packet sent via express

12-19-2013 USCIS NOA #1 (text and email) received

12-24-2013 USCIS assigns Alien Registration Number
12-31-2013 USCIS NOA #1 hard copy received
06-02-2014 USCIS web site shows NOA #2 approval
06-06-2014 USCIS web site shows case sent to NVC

06-xx-2014 Fiancee acquired birth, marriage, and police certificates from local police station (wrong)

06-16-2014 NVC creates case with GUZ### number

06-19-2014 NVC sends case sent to Guangzhou, China
06-24-2014 Received packet 3 express mail from embassy
06-25-2014 Completed DS-160 and paid K1 visa fee

06-26-2014 Mailed packet 3 response back to Embassy

06-26-2014 Requested police certificate from Russian embassy

07-08-2014 Received packet 4 email from Embassy

07-17-2014 Picked up Russian police certificate

07-25-2014 Fiancee medical exam (received MMR & Varicella, but they missed required TD shot)

07-31-2014 Picked up medical exam reports

08-01-2014 Request (correct) birth, marriage, and police certificates from Notarial Service (GongZhengChu)

08-06-2014 Picked up birth, marriage, and police certificates from Notarial Service

08-14-2014 Passed Interview Guangzhou embassy

09-01-2014 Received passport, visa, & sealed envelope

09-13-2014 POE

09-17-2014 Went to CBP office to get (US entry) I-94 updated correctly

09-18-2014 Applied for Social Security Card
09-19-2014 Applied for Marriage License (via online)
09-25-2014 Received Social Security Card
09-30-2014 Picked up Marriage License
10-09-2014 Marriage by Justice of Peace
10-09-2014 Got Certified Marriage Certificate Copies
10-17-2014 Received a letter from SS office that they need the marriage license
10-09-2014 Applied to change the social security card name
10-24-2014 Went back to SS office to provide the marriage certificate documents again!!!
12-09-2014 Submitted AOS, EAD, and AP
12-16-2014 Received 16 emails and 16 text NOA messages
01-05-2015 Received Biometrics appointment letter for (01-12-2015)
01-12-2015 Had Biometrics (fingerprint & picture) - Required Marriage Certificate!!!
02-17-2015 EAD and AP is approved
02-23-2015 Received AP is approval letter
02-25-2015 Received EAD/AP combo card (expires 02/16/2016)
02-27-2015 Applied for SS card name change (they took her SS card)
02-27-2015 Driver's learner permit test was denied since the SS card was given to SS office for name change
03-17-2015 Received SS card with married name
03-17-2015 Started to change all her accounts to married name
03-23-2015 Received potential interview waiver letter
03-27-2015 DMV rejects learner's permit due to "legal status=pending" and vision test failure
04-05-2015 Vision test for learner's permit
04-06-2015 DPS sent us letter that DHS cleared my wife's status to acquire driver's license.
04-10-2015 Passed Driver Learner's Permit
04-22-2015 Received Driver Learner's Permit ID card (expires 02/16/2016)
08-27-2015 Green Card approved
08-31-2015 Received Green Card "Welcome Notice Was Mailed" letter
09-05-2015 Received Green card
10-26-2015 Passed Driver's License Road Test (on 3rd attempt)
11-03-2015 Received Driver's License (expires 02/16/2022)
11-06-2015 Applied to remove conditional work remark on SS card
11-23-2015 Received updated Social Security Card.
- - - - - - - - - - Pending Future Processing - - - - - - - - - -
05-27-2017 File 10 Year Green Card
08-27-2017 2 Year Green Card Expires
05-27-2018 File USC

Posted

Hi, I don't see why you will need your marriage certificate when you are trying to proof your relationship with your mother and that is done with the birth certificate. If were doing a spousal visa or a step children then yes but this is not your case. At NVC they will ask for documents concerning your mom.

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: China
Timeline
Posted

Hi, I don't see why you will need your marriage certificate when you are trying to proof your relationship with your mother and that is done with the birth certificate. If were doing a spousal visa or a step children then yes but this is not your case. At NVC they will ask for documents concerning your mom.

That's what I saw in I-130 instructions also.

10-04-2013 We met online
11-21-2013 We met in person in Shanghai for 2 weeks

12-13-2013 I-129F packet sent via express

12-19-2013 USCIS NOA #1 (text and email) received

12-24-2013 USCIS assigns Alien Registration Number
12-31-2013 USCIS NOA #1 hard copy received
06-02-2014 USCIS web site shows NOA #2 approval
06-06-2014 USCIS web site shows case sent to NVC

06-xx-2014 Fiancee acquired birth, marriage, and police certificates from local police station (wrong)

06-16-2014 NVC creates case with GUZ### number

06-19-2014 NVC sends case sent to Guangzhou, China
06-24-2014 Received packet 3 express mail from embassy
06-25-2014 Completed DS-160 and paid K1 visa fee

06-26-2014 Mailed packet 3 response back to Embassy

06-26-2014 Requested police certificate from Russian embassy

07-08-2014 Received packet 4 email from Embassy

07-17-2014 Picked up Russian police certificate

07-25-2014 Fiancee medical exam (received MMR & Varicella, but they missed required TD shot)

07-31-2014 Picked up medical exam reports

08-01-2014 Request (correct) birth, marriage, and police certificates from Notarial Service (GongZhengChu)

08-06-2014 Picked up birth, marriage, and police certificates from Notarial Service

08-14-2014 Passed Interview Guangzhou embassy

09-01-2014 Received passport, visa, & sealed envelope

09-13-2014 POE

09-17-2014 Went to CBP office to get (US entry) I-94 updated correctly

09-18-2014 Applied for Social Security Card
09-19-2014 Applied for Marriage License (via online)
09-25-2014 Received Social Security Card
09-30-2014 Picked up Marriage License
10-09-2014 Marriage by Justice of Peace
10-09-2014 Got Certified Marriage Certificate Copies
10-17-2014 Received a letter from SS office that they need the marriage license
10-09-2014 Applied to change the social security card name
10-24-2014 Went back to SS office to provide the marriage certificate documents again!!!
12-09-2014 Submitted AOS, EAD, and AP
12-16-2014 Received 16 emails and 16 text NOA messages
01-05-2015 Received Biometrics appointment letter for (01-12-2015)
01-12-2015 Had Biometrics (fingerprint & picture) - Required Marriage Certificate!!!
02-17-2015 EAD and AP is approved
02-23-2015 Received AP is approval letter
02-25-2015 Received EAD/AP combo card (expires 02/16/2016)
02-27-2015 Applied for SS card name change (they took her SS card)
02-27-2015 Driver's learner permit test was denied since the SS card was given to SS office for name change
03-17-2015 Received SS card with married name
03-17-2015 Started to change all her accounts to married name
03-23-2015 Received potential interview waiver letter
03-27-2015 DMV rejects learner's permit due to "legal status=pending" and vision test failure
04-05-2015 Vision test for learner's permit
04-06-2015 DPS sent us letter that DHS cleared my wife's status to acquire driver's license.
04-10-2015 Passed Driver Learner's Permit
04-22-2015 Received Driver Learner's Permit ID card (expires 02/16/2016)
08-27-2015 Green Card approved
08-31-2015 Received Green Card "Welcome Notice Was Mailed" letter
09-05-2015 Received Green card
10-26-2015 Passed Driver's License Road Test (on 3rd attempt)
11-03-2015 Received Driver's License (expires 02/16/2022)
11-06-2015 Applied to remove conditional work remark on SS card
11-23-2015 Received updated Social Security Card.
- - - - - - - - - - Pending Future Processing - - - - - - - - - -
05-27-2017 File 10 Year Green Card
08-27-2017 2 Year Green Card Expires
05-27-2018 File USC

Posted

The following is really stupid, WHY would they need the petitioner's previous marriage certificates to petition a parent? The OP is right, they do seem to ask for that.

If you are applying for an IR5 (Parent of a U.S. Citizen) visa, you are required to provide:

  1. Original or certified copy of your Petitioner’s birth certificate
  2. Original or certified copy of your Petitioner’s marriage certificate from the Petitioner’s current and all previous marriages

http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/immigrate/immigrant-process/documents/submit/documents-to-submit-to-nvc.html#marriage

This does not constitute legal advice.

Posted

The divorce decree should be sufficient proof that you were married at one point since the decree usually specifies the date and place of the marriage. You should contact the NVC and ask if it is really necessary to include the marriage certificate, especially if you are no longer married.

I would at least understand that they require a cert from your current marriage. If they DO require the marriage cert then you would have to get that.

Also, I'm not sure if some countries work differently when it comes to divorce, but the fact that one gets a divorce doesn't cause the marriage records to disappear. For example, my mother and father are divorced, but if they ever need their marriage certificate for some reason, it would still be there.

It would be a pain in the ** for some people if they can't get those docs from here, but they still should be available.

This does not constitute legal advice.

Filed: IR-5 Country: Philippines
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Posted (edited)

You only need your marriage certificate if you don't use your parents' last name... since you said after divorce you have the same last name, then you don't need it...

Marriage certificate is just a proof for a change in last name....

Edited by Hunnybaby
Posted

That can't be right because that wouldn't necessarily apply to a man who is petitioning his parents. They do require documents to prove a change of name, but this doesn't seem to be the case. They specifically have in the instructions that you need the marriage certificate of the petitioner. If it's only for a change of name they would specify that. That's why she should find out with the NVC or embassy/consulate to make sure.

This does not constitute legal advice.

Posted

OP stated that her I-130 was approved, so the issue now is with the NVC. I'm not sure why they have on the instructions that they need her previous marriage certificates if she isn't petitioning a spouse.

This does not constitute legal advice.

Filed: I-1 Visa Country: Russia
Timeline
Posted

Hi all,

Thank you for all your replies. I've called NVC to verify if I need to provide a marriage certificate from a previous marriage and they stated that I do. As to why, I was told they are working off of a requirements list. So, even though me and my mom are under the same last name and I am divorced, I still need to provide a marriage cert. Divorce papers won't be sufficient in place of the marriage cert. Just clarifying for anyone that might have the same question in the future. Thanks again.

 
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