DCF / I-130 Thailand question

[Kendall_Suphee 0]

I am "living" in Thailand on my tourist visa... Does anyone know if the consulate in BKK will approve a I-130 (DCF) for my future wife? If so, then this would be alot faster than me returning to the USA and filing for the K1.

[Kendall_Suphee 0]

I am "living" in Thailand on my tourist visa... Does anyone know if the consulate in BKK will approve a I-130 (DCF) for my future wife? If so, then this would be alot faster than me returning to the USA and filing for the K1.

Last night I wrote the US embassy in BKK the following email:

Kendall

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Hello,

I met my Thai fiance here in Thailand in 2005. I have returned on a 2 month tourist visa and would like to marry my Thai fiance here in Thailand. Does the Consulate have instructions in writing that you could email or send to me. I am basically looking for more information about this process before we marry. Is there a packet of information that you could mail to me or that I could pick up in Bangkok before we marry?

Also, will the consulate allow me, a US Citizen, not a resident of Thailand, to file a petition I-130 for my future wife at the consulate, who is a resident and citizen of Thailand?

Respectfully,

Kendall - 22 Jan 2007

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This is what the embassy in BKK sent to my email inquiry....

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1:33 am (22 hours ago)

The Visa Unit of the U.S. Embassy in Bangkok has received your e-mail inquiry. We regret that we are unable to send a personal reply to each inquiry due to the large volume we receive daily. We have found that many of the inquiries we receive are readily answered by information available on various U.S. Government websites and this response is designed to help you access that information quickly.

If, following a review of all information provided, you still have an inquiry regarding a specific issue with a visa case pending at the U.S. Embassy in Bangkok, please send an additional email to visasbkk@state.gov with the following information:

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o Information to help foreign citizens desiring to permanently immigrate to determine the visas, requirements, and related materials they will need to apply to immigrate to the United States. Includes information on marriage and fiancée visas.

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A few hours later ... the embassy wrote this email to me:

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10:31 am (13 hours ago)

Dear Sir,

If you plan to get married with you fiancée, in order to apply for an immigrant visa or the K-3 fiancé visa for your wife, you may have to file the petition with the USCIS office, not the U.S. Embassy. For K-3 visa, the petitioner has to file the petition with the USCIS office in the U.S. only.

For more information on filing of the petition, you may visit this website;

http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/ty...types_1315.html

Regards,

Correspondence Unit

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Again... this wasn't too helpful either....

I think I will return to the USA and file the K1 as originally planned...

Anyone think or had other experiences when applying with a tourist visa?

[Yodrak 7]

Kendall_Suphee,

Why did you write to the consulate? It's the USCIS District Office in Bangkok that processes I-130 petitions in Thailand, not the consulate.

The USCIS Bangkok office is rather strict about requiring US citizens to be residents of Thailand for them to accept an I-130 for processing. If you're a tourist they will tell you to submit your petition to the service center that serves your state of residence.

You do not have to return to the USA to submit an I-129f petition, you just have to send it to a USCIS service center in the USA. And you have to be single.

Yodrak

I am "living" in Thailand on my tourist visa... Does anyone know if the consulate in BKK will approve a I-130 (DCF) for my future wife? If so, then this would be alot faster than me returning to the USA and filing for the K1.

Last night I wrote the US embassy in BKK the following email: .....

[pulteseller 0]

Why not just stay in Thailand for a while and file the K3 there as a resident? Get a job as an english teacher or something. There are certification courses offered in Thailand for about $1500 bucks, takes about 3 weeks. I think you can make about 30,000 baht a month plus your dissability. What a dream to be able to do that.

If you come back to the US it will be a long time (6 months) before you see your honey again, unless you come back for a visit.

Good luck and welcome to the club. Please submit your timeline so we can check up on you from time to time. Also, you can do a search for similar timelines and meet other people going through the same thing with thai fiances.

[thaikarl 0]

I am "living" in Thailand on my tourist visa... Does anyone know if the consulate in BKK will approve a I-130 (DCF) for my future wife? If so, then this would be alot faster than me returning to the USA and filing for the K1.

i spoke with a very helpful immigration attourney in bangkok when i was in thailand a few months ago. and i have done some research on my own about filing as a 'resident' in thailand. the procedure for that is to file at the USCIS Bangkok office. BUT, as noted in the other comments, they are very strict about what makes you a resident of thailand. if you have a tourist visa, forget it. you are a tourist, not a resident. if you have a retirement visa, or you are working in thailand with a work permit - then you have a better chance. but the lawyer said you should be living in thailand for at least 9 months or a year before you try to apply. since it will take that long to get a K-1 or K-3, may as well just go that route. after going over all the ways to get there from here, my fiance and i have decided that we'll have a civil marriage in thailand (when i can get back there) and immediately apply for a K-3. we are kicking ourselves now for not getting the civil marriage (registered with the thai goverment) while i was there april to august 2007. if we had done that, we could be filing for K-3 now. and we could have filed before the fee increase. oh well.

you can have the traditional wedding - which for me will be the REAL wedding - at anytime. as my fiancee pointed out, why pay for a k-1 and then pay for a k-3? plus the expense of bringing your fiancee to the states for a k-1. good luck.