Calif. lawmaker seeks ban on spanking

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Come on, Charles...you're a smart guy. You tell me just what it is that you're teaching them...revenge? retaliation? Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, eh? That to me is archaic....by about 2,000 years.

maybe that's why i respect the law and you don't. i learned early on there is a punishment for such and that's why you discount illegals being "lawbreakers" eh?

hahaha...that's funny, Charles. Yes, I have a total disregard for the law. Please don't call law enforcement since I am on the lamb. Oh brother...that one takes the cake.

[Ban Hammer 13,346]

Their neurological system isn't fully developed yet.

getting some 110-120v will sure make it develop

You're right and sometimes a little finger burn from putting the hand over an open flame is the best way for them to learn because they see a direct connection. However, when a parent sees their toddler reaching for an open flame and forcefully holds their hand near the flame until it hurst - that's jacked up! The child may be learning that the flame hurts but also that mommy or daddy would forcefully cause them pain. That's when real psychosis begins and if you think that's liberal mumbo jumbo, just talk to an FBI Profiler. It ain't mumbo jumbo when we have psycho paths in this world. They aren't hatched that way. Parents can really f##k up their children with poisonous pedogogy. Every parent owes it to themselves and their children's future to learn all they can on parenting and not just rely on how our parent's raised us.

so you'd rather they played with the wall socket instead of getting their hand slapped for it?

[Peikko 1,575]

And when your argument fails, resort to insults, that's sure to work...at least as well as spanking does.

[Ban Hammer 13,346]

Come on, Charles...you're a smart guy. You tell me just what it is that you're teaching them...revenge? retaliation? Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, eh? That to me is archaic....by about 2,000 years.

maybe that's why i respect the law and you don't. i learned early on there is a punishment for such and that's why you discount illegals being "lawbreakers" eh?

hahaha...that's funny, Charles. Yes, I have a total disregard for the law. Please don't call law enforcement since I am on the lamb. Oh brother...that one takes the cake.

you loudly defend those here illegally. apparently you do disregard the law.

[Thingee 0]

Their neurological system isn't fully developed yet.

getting some 110-120v will sure make it develop

You're right and sometimes a little finger burn from putting the hand over an open flame is the best way for them to learn because they see a direct connection. However, when a parent sees their toddler reaching for an open flame and forcefully holds their hand near the flame until it hurst - that's jacked up! The child may be learning that the flame hurts but also that mommy or daddy would forcefully cause them pain. That's when real psychosis begins and if you think that's liberal mumbo jumbo, just talk to an FBI Profiler. It ain't mumbo jumbo when we have psycho paths in this world. They aren't hatched that way. Parents can really f##k up their children with poisonous pedogogy. Every parent owes it to themselves and their children's future to learn all they can on parenting and not just rely on how our parent's raised us.

I agree with everything you said in that paragraph...well almost. I'd rather catch them at going too close to the flame and give them a tap as opposed to them getting a burn. Burns hurt for ages!

[Ban Hammer 13,346]

And when your argument fails, resort to insults, that's sure to work...at least as well as spanking does.

just dropping down to your level for a visit, dearie

[Peikko 1,575]

Yeah, that's what the wishy washy liberal said, he'd rather the child played with the socket than had his hand slapped...do you actually believe what you type or are you just too lazy to try to support your arguments logically?

Edited January 22, 2007 by Purple_Hibiscus

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I'd be interested as to where the potty training info came from. Two of mine were trained prior to their 2nd birthday...and no, I wasn't reading their body cues..they knew how to take down their pants etc.

From a developmental psychology course I took in college. I can find you sources, but it is scientific fact that a child's neurological system doesn't fully develop until about the age of 2 which is why most people have no memory of their childhood prior to that.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Their neurological system isn't fully developed yet.

getting some 110-120v will sure make it develop

You're right and sometimes a little finger burn from putting the hand over an open flame is the best way for them to learn because they see a direct connection. However, when a parent sees their toddler reaching for an open flame and forcefully holds their hand near the flame until it hurst - that's jacked up! The child may be learning that the flame hurts but also that mommy or daddy would forcefully cause them pain. That's when real psychosis begins and if you think that's liberal mumbo jumbo, just talk to an FBI Profiler. It ain't mumbo jumbo when we have psycho paths in this world. They aren't hatched that way. Parents can really f##k up their children with poisonous pedogogy. Every parent owes it to themselves and their children's future to learn all they can on parenting and not just rely on how our parent's raised us.

so you'd rather they played with the wall socket instead of getting their hand slapped for it?

Why not hand them kids some copper wires to accelarate their learning?

[Ban Hammer 13,346]

Yeah, that's what the wishy washy liberal said, he'd rather the child played with the socket than had his hand slapped...do you actually believe what you type or are you just to lazy to try to support your arguments logically?

it was please borrow a

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Their neurological system isn't fully developed yet.

getting some 110-120v will sure make it develop

You're right and sometimes a little finger burn from putting the hand over an open flame is the best way for them to learn because they see a direct connection. However, when a parent sees their toddler reaching for an open flame and forcefully holds their hand near the flame until it hurst - that's jacked up! The child may be learning that the flame hurts but also that mommy or daddy would forcefully cause them pain. That's when real psychosis begins and if you think that's liberal mumbo jumbo, just talk to an FBI Profiler. It ain't mumbo jumbo when we have psycho paths in this world. They aren't hatched that way. Parents can really f##k up their children with poisonous pedogogy. Every parent owes it to themselves and their children's future to learn all they can on parenting and not just rely on how our parent's raised us.

so you'd rather they played with the wall socket instead of getting their hand slapped for it?

Or option C - cover your outlets and keep a watchful eye on your toddler. You want to have an ideal area for them to roam and explore that is safe for them - don't have any sharp corners, glass, cigarette butts - very dangerous, etc.). That's just Common Sense Parenting 101.

[Peikko 1,575]

Of course it was, silly me.

[Ban Hammer 13,346]

Their neurological system isn't fully developed yet.

getting some 110-120v will sure make it develop

You're right and sometimes a little finger burn from putting the hand over an open flame is the best way for them to learn because they see a direct connection. However, when a parent sees their toddler reaching for an open flame and forcefully holds their hand near the flame until it hurst - that's jacked up! The child may be learning that the flame hurts but also that mommy or daddy would forcefully cause them pain. That's when real psychosis begins and if you think that's liberal mumbo jumbo, just talk to an FBI Profiler. It ain't mumbo jumbo when we have psycho paths in this world. They aren't hatched that way. Parents can really f##k up their children with poisonous pedogogy. Every parent owes it to themselves and their children's future to learn all they can on parenting and not just rely on how our parent's raised us.

so you'd rather they played with the wall socket instead of getting their hand slapped for it?

Or option C - cover your outlets and keep a watchful eye on your toddler. You want to have an ideal area for them to roam and explore that is safe for them - don't have any sharp corners, glass, cigarette butts - very dangerous, etc.). That's just Common Sense Parenting 101.

or even duct tape the kid to wall for their own safety! yeah that's it. and hey that carpet probably has dust mites in it too, don't let them on it. and rug burns oh my.

[Peikko 1,575]

So, where where we?

Ah yes, I wondered when spanking needed to be used as apposed to another form of discipline

So, you really believe that spanking is more effective and educational than say for example taking away a favourite toy for a specified period of time in teaching a small child right from wrong?

Or, is it that you are too lazy to take the time to try the other options?

depends on the infraction

[Peikko 1,575]

Sarcasm used instead of reasoned argument...you believe in spanking and yet when faced with reasoned arguments for adopting other disciplinary methods, instead of putting forward an argument as to why spanking is more effective than these other options you infer that everyone who is against spanking is somehow overprotective or loopy.