Calif. lawmaker seeks ban on spanking

[Peikko 1,575]

I guess ironly doesn't come out well on a message board. Ho hum.

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

Ah yes, , the wishy washy namby pamby liberal doesn't try to change the behaviour by using an appropriate punishment as apposed to the nice simple whap on the butt, but rather watches the child do anything and anything and nods benignly. I see your argument perfectly.

when you have kids let us know. till then, i'll be thankful you are out of the gene pool.

I guess ironly doesn't come out well on a message board. Ho hum.

when someone defines ironly let me know that also.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

However, feel free to bring up your children any way you choose.

That, however, is precisely what bills like the one discussed try to prohibit. I resent a government that enters my perfectly good home w/o warrant and tells me how to raise my children. Laws protecting anyone, especially children, from abuse are great. A spanking is not abuse.

Spare me this 60's style hippie ####### about non-authorative child raising: Stoned people came up with that!

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

Ah yes, I don't have children and this is liberal mumbo jumbo, quite so.

The threat of the spank is so persuasive and educational of course how silly of me. You do wrong, you get spanked, you don't do that again. Hmmm, I can see how that works.

If spanking puts fear into kids, and teaches them a lesson, why, then, parents who spank, have you had to do so to your children more than once?

you're assuming that such is for the same thing over and over again. der.

[Peikko 1,575]

Ah yes, the insult, wondered when that was coming, nice one!

In the meantime, I am sure all right thinking parents understand that spanking isn't about teaching a child anything, except that their otherwise nice parent can behave like an #######!

[peezey 0]

Ah yes, I don't have children and this is liberal mumbo jumbo, quite so.

The threat of the spank is so persuasive and educational of course how silly of me. You do wrong, you get spanked, you don't do that again. Hmmm, I can see how that works.

If spanking puts fear into kids, and teaches them a lesson, why, then, parents who spank, have you had to do so to your children more than once?

you're assuming that such is for the same thing over and over again. der.

No I'm not. If spanking is so effective, wouldn't one spanking carry over?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

If spanking puts fear into kids, and teaches them a lesson, why, then, parents who spank, have you had to do so to your children more than once?

So, why don't we go an abolish all the correctional facilities, then? Seeing that many repeat offenders are in there, seems to be that they are of no use then.

Edited January 22, 2007 by ET-US2004

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

Ah yes, the insult, wondered when that was coming, nice one!

In the meantime, I am sure all right thinking parents understand that spanking isn't about teaching a child anything, except that their otherwise nice parent can behave like an #######!

right thinking meaning they agree with you. how amusing. i also presume you have lots of experience to back up your pov too.

[peezey 0]

If spanking puts fear into kids, and teaches them a lesson, why, then, parents who spank, have you had to do so to your children more than once?

So, why don't we go an abolish all the correctional facilities, then? Seeing that many repeat offenders are in there, seems to be that they are of no use then. :whacko:

So kids engaging in normal pushing-the-limits behavior is comparable to repeat criminals? Wow.

[Peikko 1,575]

Oh, hippies, right, another stock response from the knee jerk brigade. Well done.

I have made it perfectly clear that:

1) I don't think there is any need for any more parental regulation than already exists. That is not going to make the changes that are required. Living with mixed messages is what causes the confusion and therefore lack of respect of younger people toward adults.

2) I firmly believe in adults being authoritive figures. It is spanking and physical violence against children that I do not believe in, nor do I believe it serves any useful purpsose other than relieving the immediate frustration for the parent. (or of course can be a sign of something much worse in a minornity of cases)

Edited January 22, 2007 by Purple_Hibiscus

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

If spanking puts fear into kids, and teaches them a lesson, why, then, parents who spank, have you had to do so to your children more than once?

So, why don't we go an abolish all the correctional facilities, then? Seeing that many repeat offenders are in there, seems to be that they are of no use then. :whacko:

So kids engaging in normal pushing-the-limits behavior is comparable to repeat criminals? Wow.

the behavior has not yet been defined, has it? thanks for playing, you can sit down now.

[Peikko 1,575]

So, you really believe that spanking is more effective and educational than say for example taking away a favourite toy for a specified period of time in teaching a small child right from wrong?

Or, is it that you are too lazy to take the time to try the other options?

[peezey 0]

Oh, hippies, right, another stock response from the knee jerk brigade. Well done.

I have made it perfectly clear that:

1) I don't think there is any need for any more parental regulation than already exists. That is not going to make the changes that are required. Living with mixed messages is what causes the confusion and therefore lack of respect of younger people toward adults.

2) I firmly believe in adults being authoritive figures. It is spanking and physical violence against children that I do not believe in, nor do I believe it serves any useful purpsose other than relieving the immediate frustration for the parent. (or of course can be a sign of something much worse in a minornity of cases)

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

So, you really believe that spanking is more effective and educational than say for example taking away a favourite toy for a specified period of time in teaching a small child right from wrong?

Or, is it that you are too lazy to take the time to try the other options?

depends on the infraction. der. are you still trying to form a socialist state?

[Peikko 1,575]

So what would be an infraction that would lead to physical punishment as apposed to some other reprimand?

Socialist state, right, more labels.