Israel-Gaza conflict: What has Israel achieved in 26 bloody days?

[OriZ 3,157]

Ok, Ok...you broke me! lol

Since my whole point here is that I don't need to prove you wrong on everything, because once I have on a couple things then well the people with brains here will realize everything else you post can also be disproven, I just don't have the time to do it to each single accusation...lets just do it with one more thing:

http://www.thomaswictor.com/pallywood-made-by-non-palestinians

Now I'm done with you.

[Expat1 971]

Ok, Ok...you broke me! lol

Since my whole point here is that I don't need to prove you wrong on everything, because once I have on a couple things then well the people with brains here will realize everything else you post can also be disproven, I just don't have the time to do it to each single accusation...lets just do it with one more thing:

http://www.thomaswictor.com/pallywood-made-by-non-palestinians

Now I'm done with you.

I'm not done with you by a long shot.

Your "peaceful settlers" don't look so good on film. In fact, they look like they deliberately create conflict with the people around them then call the brave IDF to intimidate the people that they created the conflict with in the first place.

Your "brave IDF" doesn't look so good on film. They take random potshots from rooftops at teenagers walking down the street then laugh, high-five, and make fun of them after they gun them down.

Your "humanitarian" rubber-coated bullets don't look so good on film. They blow out a kid's chest, exit his back, and end up in his school knapsack THEN they blow through a second kid's back, exit his chest, and pass right through him .

Your story that the Israelis "withdrew from the occupied territories" don't look so good on film. Looks like that same brave IDF gathers up two, three big brave, a$$-kicking soldiers to take women and kids down, in those territories that you come on here and say you withdrew from.

Summary: You haven't proven sht except that you're full of it, top to bottom and everyone in here but you knows it. You need to find another place to play.

Those CNN cameramen were just watching the action unfold. You're numb if you think anyone is going to believe that filming random shootings of teenagers by Israeli soldiers was somehow "staged". Next.

Edited August 17, 2014 by Expat1

[Expat1 971]

You are funny. Your little provocation might work on a 4 year old, trying to get me to reply when I have already called your bluff and said you are wasting my time. I do not feel the need to prove you wrong on each and every silly thing that comes out of your mouth individually, I've already shown what you are about. So keep on posting but I am still not wasting my time on you.

You're right. You are wasting your time defending murderers on this thread. Lots more film available for your breathless audience if you want to come back in though. I don't waste my energy on 4-yr-olds like the IDF does though. That's for them to do and for you to laugh and play drinking games about.

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/israeli-palestinian-children.html

There is a deafening explosion as it hits a structure on the pier, a place we have seen hit before, where fishermen usually store their nets. Behind the smoke, I see four figures running, silhouettes whose legs are pumping raggedly. They clear the smoke. From their size it is clear they are a man and three young boys.

Where the harbour wall ends and the beach starts, there are a few brightly coloured tents and chairs for beach users in more peaceful times. The four figures jump on to the beach and begin running towards us and the safety of the hotel…

The second shell catches the survivors as they reach the brightly coloured tents. As it explodes, my colleagues, now standing by the terrace wall, shout at unseen Israeli gunners who can’t hear them: “They are only children.”

Edited August 17, 2014 by Expat1

[LibCampFireClub 635]

Summary: You haven't proven sht except that you're full of it, top to bottom and everyone in here but you knows it. You need to find another place to play.

Been watching your posts on this topic and I'd like to ask you a couple of questions:

1. If there was an all-out war between the Nation of Israel, the USA and the Nation of [correction: Radical] Islam, who would you hope to win?

2. And then, who do you think would win?

Note: Be sure to understand that my question is regarding to a real war where anyone in the way gets vaporized.

Edited August 17, 2014 by ExExpat

[Expat1 971]

Been watching your posts on this topic and I'd like to ask you a couple of questions:

1. If there was an all-out war between the Nation of Israel, the USA and the Nation of [correction: Radical] Islam, who would you hope to win?

2. And then, who do you think would win?

Note: Be sure to understand that my question is regarding to a real war where anyone in the way gets vaporized.

What a silly question. That war is already kicked off and everyone in the way IS getting vaporized and OH it's a couple hundred miles or so to the north.

The troops who protect us are neither Israeli nor American. Of course guess who's helping ISIS by attacking Syria and providing air cover for ISIS?

Israel's continued attacks on the Syrian government are particularly bizarre considering the current context. With ISIS rapidly gaining influence in both Iraq and Syria (they just took 4 new towns in Iraq over the weekend), it would behoove Israel to consider what would actually happen if Assad fell. Do they actually want a rabid extremist group to establish an Islamic caliphate on their border?

Hamas, by the way, are sworn enemies of ISIS. Not too many stonings and beheadings in Palestine that I can tell.

Figures huh. Talk about Irony.

Funny when whats his name up there brings up ISIS as if his feigned outrage or anything else about him is believable.

Do you have another theoretical question or do you want to discuss the fact that Israel really shouldn't be assisting in the rise of the very worst of radical Islam? Because when you say "war with Israel against radical Islam" and Israel is helping ISIS because ISIS is the enemy of their enemy it really makes me want to puke.

Edited August 17, 2014 by Expat1

[LibCampFireClub 635]

Okay, got it.

So your answers are:

1. You do not support Israel's right to exist and defend herself from terrorist attack and will nit-pick any military response to take toward that attack.

2. You believe and want radical Islam or anyone who attacks Israel to emerge the victor.

That's cool. Now we have your agenda recorded.

Edited August 17, 2014 by ExExpat

[Expat1 971]

Okay, got it.

So your answers are:

1. You do not support Israel's right to exist and defend herself from terrorist attack and will nit-pick any military response to take toward that attack.

2. You believe and want radical Islam or anyone who attacks Israel to emerge the victor.

That's cool. Now we have your agenda recorded.

Show me where I said that. Go.

[LibCampFireClub 635]

Show me where I said that. Go.

There are currently 28 pages of your anti-Semitic rants. Take your pick.

[Expat1 971]

There are currently 28 pages of your anti-Semitic rants. Take your pick.

You pick one, expose it as "anti-Semitic". Go ahead.

[LibCampFireClub 635]

You pick one, expose it as "anti-Semitic". Go ahead.

Do you love Israel? Would you fight side by side with them to extinguish Hamas and protect their right to exist?

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

Show me where I said that. Go.

Just refute what he said in plain English without qualifiers and we can move on..

[Expat1 971]

Do you love Israel? Would you fight side by side with them to extinguish Hamas and protect their right to exist? expand

Fixed your post.

Nope. I will not fight side by side to extinguish exterminate anyone. I will not fight side by side to keep and hold millions of people in concentration camps for generations. I will not fight side by side to give anyone the right to lay on a roof and take potshots at kids on the street. I will not fight side by side for the cause of greed and expansion. I will not fight side by side to put children in prison with no trial. I will not fight side by side with people who beat up women and children. I for dam sure will not fight side by side with people who board aid ships and kill the Americans on them, or with people who start up a bulldozer, look an unarmed American girl in the eye, and run her over.

Sorry. I'm an American and I do not believe these things are right.

This is and never was about Israel's right to exist. You must have missed that tiny, critical little detail. This is about sections of land defined as "occupied territories" that both the UN and the US has stated Israel has not right to control, live in, or settle and this is about the right of the people there to fight for their freedom to live in peace, have access to food, water, medical supplies, and treatment, and who are denied this while being systematically pushed back to make room for more settlers.

Now show me where I ever, once, said anything differently. Go ahead.

Edited August 17, 2014 by Expat1

[LibCampFireClub 635]

You're the perfect example of why war is necessary to resolve this. That's why I wrote this post:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/508484-israel-gaza-conflict-what-has-israel-achieved-in-26-bloody-days/?p=7192166

Edited August 17, 2014 by ExExpat

[Expat1 971]

You're the perfect example of why war is necessary to resolve this. That's way I wrote this post:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/508484-israel-gaza-conflict-what-has-israel-achieved-in-26-bloody-days/?p=7192166

Well as it appears you are an avid supporter of Israeli policies grab your weapon, head over there, and help them tag some of those rock-throwing kids. Bring Oriz with you.

You forgot to expose my anti-Semitic rants. Focus and get it done.

Edited August 17, 2014 by Expat1

[LibCampFireClub 635]

Well as it appears you are an avid supporter of Israeli policies grab your weapon, head over there, and help them tag some of those rock-throwing kids. Bring Oriz with you.

It would be my true pleasure to meet you and your cohorts face to face in battle. We're at war now and you're on the other side.