Israel-Gaza conflict: What has Israel achieved in 26 bloody days?

[Josh W 3]

It is true.

However, it's funny to hear you talk about 'proportion' when just the other day you have suggested that not only are Palestinians serial killers who should be executed but that the Israeli response against Gaza should be much more disproportionate.

Whichever established VJ member you are - you weaken any humanitarian argument you try to make by demonstrating that you are not humanitarian in the least.

I am making fun of anyone who is trying to introduce the term "proportion" into military conflict.

The Arab and Liberal media didn't existed during WWII and we and the Russians killed 9 millions Germans including civilians DISPROPORTIALY.

We were fighting for humanity against tyrannical fascists murderess the same way Israel is fighting now their analogue islamo-fascists hamASS.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Anything goes, eh? Brilliant.

[Jacque67 7,328]

Anything goes, eh? Brilliant.

Exactly.

Edited August 11, 2014 by Jacque67

[Karee 4,190]

I am making fun of anyone who is trying to introduce the term "proportion" into military conflict.

The Arab and Liberal media didn't existed during WWII and we and the Russians killed 9 millions Germans including civilians DISPROPORTIALY.

We were fighting for humanity against tyrannical fascists murderess the same way Israel is fighting now their analogue islamo-fascists hamASS.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I am making fun of anyone who is trying to introduce the term "proportion" into military conflict.

The Arab and Liberal media didn't existed during WWII and we and the Russians killed 9 millions Germans including civilians DISPROPORTIALY.

We were fighting for humanity against tyrannical fascists murderess the same way Israel is fighting now their analogue islamo-fascists hamASS.

The word you were looking for is "disproportionately". But no worries, using actual vs. made up words would not have improved the quality of your post in any meaningful way.

[Boiler 45,749]

Surely the whole idea is for the casualties to be disproportionate?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Surely the whole idea is for the casualties to be disproportionate?

Yes, like Stalin having killed disproportionately more Russians - real and forced ones - than Nazis. Multiples more. Guess that means that they were worse than the Nazis.

[Boiler 45,749]

Great Generals in Military History have always been ranked by the need for casualties to be proportionate.

[Karee 4,190]

Great Generals in Military History have always been ranked by the need for casualties to be proportionate.

Even if they kill 1000 civilians for each enemy soldier?

[Boiler 45,749]

Are we changing subjects to ISIS?

[Josh W 3]

Are we changing subjects to ISIS?

No need they are the same as hamASS

[Josh W 3]

http://www.suntimes.com/news/huntley/28563684-452/one-side-in-israel-conflict-is-to-blame.html

One side in Israel conflict is to blame

Already the headlines and news accounts speak of the Israelis and Palestinians “trading” strikes, talk of the two sides escalating their conflict, and, of course, repeat the tired, misleading phrase “the cycle of violence.”

A pretty simple rule of thumb applies to the outbreaks of Israeli-Palestinian bloodshed: No Palestinian violence, no Israeli violence.

There’s no cycle, there’s a cause and effect. As the death tolls mount, that simple truth fades from view as calls from Washington and European capitals increase for both sides to exercise restraint.

Let’s not forget the current fighting, which may yet evolve into a full-scale land war with an Israeli incursion into the Gaza Strip, began with the kidnapping and murder by Hamas terrorists of three young Israelis.

As Israeli authorities tried to solve that sickening crime, several Israelis kidnapped and murdered a Palestinian youth. The overwhelming majority of Israelis were revulsed by this act, and Israeli authorities quickly made arrests. Israeli officials didn’t shrink from calling the murderers of the Palestinian boy “terrorists.” The government won’t hail them as heroes or name public squares in their honor, as the Palestinian Authority has time and again celebrated the terrorists who murdered Jews.

Hamas started launching rockets by the dozens into southern Israel . The government of Prime Minister Netanyahu, in a remarkable display of restraint, offered “quiet for quiet.” But the Hamas overlords of Gaza and their fellow terrorist allies like Islamic Jihad only fired more and more missiles and mortars into Israel , some of them flying as far as 70 miles into the Jewish state, threatening major population centers such as Tel Aviv and Jerusalem . Israel ’s Iron Dome missile defense system brought down many of them.

If air strikes aren’t sufficient to halt the Hamas attacks and Israeli troops do end up moving into Gaza, it will mark the third time they’ve done so since 2005 when Israel uprooted settlements and left in a well-meaning effort to give the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip the opportunity to build a functioning, productive, peaceful enclave that could be a precursor to a Palestinian state.

Instead, as the Israelis moved out, the Palestinians ripped up greenhouses, economically important structures left behind, and elected Hamas terrorists to lead them. In a civil war Hamas evicted the less confrontational Palestinian Authority and used Gaza as a base for its unending war to eradicate Israel .

When the rain of missiles aimed at Israeli towns became intolerable, Israel sent in troops. When the inevitable cease-fire was declared, Hamas used the subsequent period of quiet to smuggle in new weapons and rearm for the next attack in their implacable hostility to Israel .

As this round of fighting continues, expect much to be made of the disparity between the two sides, the military superiority of Israel with its tanks, guided missiles and aircraft.

But consider for a moment, what if the disparity were reversed, what if it were Hamas who had the tanks, smart missiles and aircraft? There would be no restraint as we’ve seen the Israelis exercise again and again. No, there would be a bloodbath with the surviving Jews pushed into the sea.

There’s only one side in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that wants the other side wiped off the map.

That’s the fundamental, unending narrative. Palestinian hatred spawns murder and mayhem, leaving Israel no choice but to defend its citizens — as any nation would.

Email: shuntley.cst@gmail.com

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Some Palestinians actually want to live their lives in peace, but I guess we can ignore that for the narrative that they are all violent extremists.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Some Palestinians actually want to live their lives in peace, but I guess we can ignore that for the narrative that they are all violent extremists.

Simple minds don't process any degree of complexity. Simple minds require a world that is black and white. Any shade of grey and they are lost.

[Rich and Wen 101]

All that evil needs to prevail is for good men (and women) to do nothing.

Why don't the peaceful ones raise their voices and shout, "ENOUGH!"?