Things to remember to tell your SO when they arrive

[Sofiyya 1,687]

it's no wonder some have learned to be a closed book around here.

I am decidely among them. Trust is not a byproduct here.

[peezey 0]

Yep, it's a good discussion so people can see for themselves who perpetuates problems.

p.s. I wasn't referring to the atheist comment, go back and read your posts.

p.p.s I wasn't referring to you because as far as I can see you never portray yourself as a demure, modest woman with incredulity for others who might not be so much, but of course, you jumped to the conclusion those who were commenting were talking about you, but we weren't. See? If you listened once in a while, you might see that not everything is about you, and not everything is about fighting with you.

[Ban Hammer 13,346]

it's no wonder some have learned to be a closed book around here.

I am decidely among them. Trust is not a byproduct here.

when all else fails, accuse your opponent of sharing their sex secrets with an unnamed guy

[Sofiyya 1,687]

BTW, peezy, I have nothing against you being an atheist. I respect that because it's an honest and clear cut self-assessment of your current position, unlike those who call themselves a believer in X or Y, but do little or nothing that is commanded by it. I applaud your honesty. It is refreshing, but it does have its limits when discussing faith.

[jordanianprincess 0]

Perhaps you missed this:

I have a question. What is it with all these backbiting Muslimas? The other day, some Muslimas were picked on for publically mentioning our dildos, but it has been admitted that there is private backbiting of others among the friends. What's up with that?

Do you know what your issue is? You don't understand the concept of forgiveness. This is old news now, we have all moved past it, why bring it up again? Its starting to become rather clear to me that you enjoy the fighting and that is really the only time you pop up in these threads. You try to gain sympathy from new members by discussing this so called "clique" which doesn't exist.

I don't get you at all. I have stuck up for you in the past when my so called "clique" was against you, and at that point I was a friend to you. However if I disagree with anything you say, I become a member of the "clique". Basically anyone that disagrees with you is a member of the clique. Maybe the reason some of us haven't befriended you is because your tactics. I was your friend at one time and told you something privately in a PM which you then threatened to blurt out in a thread and eventually did. Friendship is built on trust which is something you clearly don't understand. In all your efforts to make this about you, you have failed miserably.

I often send PM's to members welcoming them and helping them out, does that make them part of the so-called clique? There were times where Rebecca and I didn't see eye to eye on any subject. Same goes for Sarah and Jenn, our abilily to move past that is what makes us friend. You have proved over and over that you don't have the ability to move past anything. Even you attempt to draw some sympathy from Jean by portraying us as her enemies didn't work. I actually talk to Jean in PM's and we have both moved past our disagreements, that is what is called being an adult. The way you are acting is what is very high school.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Yep, it's a good discussion so people can see for themselves who perpetuates problems.

p.s. I wasn't referring to the atheist comment, go back and read your posts.

p.p.s I wasn't referring to you because as far as I can see you never portray yourself as a demure, modest woman with incredulity for others who might not be so much, but of course, you jumped to the conclusion those who were commenting were talking about you, but we weren't. See? If you listened once in a while, you might see that not everything is about you, and not everything is about fighting with you.

Ok, I'll take your word for it. All I know is that I went away, and when I returned, there was a controversy going about dildos. That's what I responded to, and folks responded back.

[mybackpages 0]

If we have to have a troll in MENA , why cant we have one that is at least intelligent and funny? AND the posts make sense even if they get you all riled up? where's Gupt?

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Do you know what your issue is? You don't understand the concept of forgiveness. This is old news now, we have all moved past it, why bring it up again? Its starting to become rather clear to me that you enjoy the fighting and that is really the only time you pop up in these threads. You try to gain sympathy from new members by discussing this so called "clique" which doesn't exist.

Who has asked for forgiveness? Bringing up wrongs means that I enjoy fighting? What makes it a fight is that there are those who deny the wrongs.

I don't get you at all. I have stuck up for you in the past when my so called "clique" was against you, and at that point I was a friend to you. However if I disagree with anything you say, I become a member of the "clique". Basically anyone that disagrees with you is a member of the clique. Maybe the reason some of us haven't befriended you is because your tactics. I was your friend at one time and told you something privately in a PM which you then threatened to blurt out in a thread and eventually did. Friendship is built on trust which is something you clearly don't understand. In all your efforts to make this about you, you have failed miserably.

I haven't pegged you as a member of the clique. That is something you are seeing on your own. I actually believe you to be one who isn't. I have PMed you about my respect for your individuality. Did you get it?

I often send PM's to members welcoming them and helping them out, does that make them part of the so-called clique? There were times where Rebecca and I didn't see eye to eye on any subject. Same goes for Sarah and Jenn, our abilily to move past that is what makes us friend. You have proved over and over that you don't have the ability to move past anything. Even you attempt to draw some sympathy from Jean by portraying us as her enemies didn't work. I actually talk to Jean in PM's and we have both moved past our disagreements, that is what is called being an adult. The way you are acting is what is very high school.

When I see the same negative patterns repeated, I will speak out. No shame in that.

I said nothing to or about Jean that denoted anyone as her enemy. On the contrary, I said she has benefited from the friendships.

[mybackpages 0]

Jean , dear...how many times have yo felt a part of the secret cabal?

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I'm not the only one who sees what goes on here and comments on it. Perhaps I'm the only one who feels confident and perhaps apathetic enoough about the responses to take the heat. It's not about me, it's for the good of all of us. Its clear we have a problem because every day there is fighting and if we can't talk about it, we will remain the butt of VJ jokes.

[jordanianprincess 0]

Do you know what your issue is? You don't understand the concept of forgiveness. This is old news now, we have all moved past it, why bring it up again? Its starting to become rather clear to me that you enjoy the fighting and that is really the only time you pop up in these threads. You try to gain sympathy from new members by discussing this so called "clique" which doesn't exist.

Who has asked for forgiveness? Bringing up wrongs means that I enjoy fighting? What makes it a fight is that there are those who deny the wrongs.

Usually when you move past an issue, you leave it there. What I have noticed is that you drag it around with you. Are you the only person that can judge what is wrong? You have given your opinion many times over what you think is wrong, but you don't even leave it at that. You fight it to the death.

I don't get you at all. I have stuck up for you in the past when my so called "clique" was against you, and at that point I was a friend to you. However if I disagree with anything you say, I become a member of the "clique". Basically anyone that disagrees with you is a member of the clique. Maybe the reason some of us haven't befriended you is because your tactics. I was your friend at one time and told you something privately in a PM which you then threatened to blurt out in a thread and eventually did. Friendship is built on trust which is something you clearly don't understand. In all your efforts to make this about you, you have failed miserably.

I haven't pegged you as a member of the clique. That is something you are seeing on your own. I actually believe you to be one who isn't. I have PMed you about my respect for your individuality. Did you get it?

Yes I did get that PM. But, you decided I was your friend after I stuck up for you. That was when you added me to your friend list. I stuck up for you because I believe what you were saying was right, and all of our past disagreements has nothing to do with that.

You tell me now that you see as an individual, but if I were to agree with Sarah and hicham about something, I would be a member of the clique as you have displayed in many threads previously.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Usually when you move past an issue, you leave it there. What I have noticed is that you drag it around with you. Are you the only person that can judge what is wrong? You have given your opinion many times over what you think is wrong, but you don't even leave it at that. You fight it to the death.

Yes I did get that PM. But, you decided I was your friend after I stuck up for you. That was when you added me to your friend list. I stuck up for you because I believe what you were saying was right, and all of our past disagreements has nothing to do with that.

You tell me now that you see as an individual, but if I were to agree with Sarah and hicham about something, I would be a member of the clique as you have displayed in many threads previously.

This is not an old issue, it's an unsettled one. I hear plenty about it in private, but I'm a sunshine person; I'd rather discuss it openly than in PMs. I don't like to backbite. I'd rather be able to say in public anything I say in private.

I've added about a half dozen people to my friends list recently. It means nothing other than that I'm doing that more lately. There are other people on my friends list whom fight with me and maybe backbite me too. I considered you to be friend before that because you do think for yourself. I like that even when I don't like what you say. When I list someone means little.

Edited January 25, 2007 by Green-eyed girl

[heishe 2]

Jean , dear...how many times have yo felt a part of the secret cabal?

THERE IS NO CABAL

PS meet me by the bike racks after school so we can talk about how to exclude the fat girl and also the one with acne

[jordanianprincess 0]

Usually when you move past an issue, you leave it there. What I have noticed is that you drag it around with you. Are you the only person that can judge what is wrong? You have given your opinion many times over what you think is wrong, but you don't even leave it at that. You fight it to the death.

Yes I did get that PM. But, you decided I was your friend after I stuck up for you. That was when you added me to your friend list. I stuck up for you because I believe what you were saying was right, and all of our past disagreements has nothing to do with that.

You tell me now that you see as an individual, but if I were to agree with Sarah and hicham about something, I would be a member of the clique as you have displayed in many threads previously.

This is not an old issue, it's an unsettled one. I hear plenty about it in private, but I'm a sunshine person; I'd rather discuss it openly than in PMs. I don't like to backbite. I'd rather be able to say in public anything I say in private.

I've added about a half dozen people to my friends list recently. It means nothing other than that I'm doing that more lately. There are other people on my friends list whom fight with me and maybe backbite me too. I considered you to be friend before that because you do think for yourself. I like that even when I don't like what you say. When I list someone means little.

The only person I see complaining is you! You keep saying you get PM"s about it, but for the most part everyone gets along here pretty well. We all pick on each other from time to time, I have been picked on plently. We all move past it and I suggest you do the same. I don't have an issue with a single person on here. I have gotten in to major fights with certain members and we are friendly to each other now.

[Ban Hammer 13,346]

Do you know what your issue is? You don't understand the concept of forgiveness.