Police Still Weighing Whether To Charge Man Who Allegedly Killed Burglar

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

The coward was the kid.... He could have rung the door bell and said ... Dad let me in. trying to sneak around his parents back. ... got him killed.

And do you really think a kid does not know his own house

When we are having a decent discussion, why do you have to splash in some snide remarks about how I don't care about my family?

Of course people make quick decisions in scary situations, and no one can plan how they would react, but I think we can try to change the conversation when we are not in danger. Instead of thinking of guns first no matter what, I think cooler heads should prevail.

I don't think the vast majority of burglars plan for people to be in the house when they do it, and I think most would leave when they realized. If someone is attacking you, of course you can defend yourself. But most home invasions are not about murder, that it not the goal, the goal is stealing stuff. If someone is walking or running away, it is not a free pass to kill them because they used to be in your house.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

If you are able to read the mind of a complete stranger breaking into your abode, more power to you.

But I, unfortunately, lack that skill and would not hesitate to protect myself and property. I am comfortable with sorting out the intruder's intentions later.

Isn't that just special. Some stranger crawls thru a window of my house at 3:00 AM. Ok let me ponder this .Let me make a list of people it could be.. Well that would be zero.

I can promise you in a tactical situation, good chance you are going to end up dead. Wanting to analyze it, cal out to the assailant, ask the who they are., means you know nothing about tactical situations and you will get your family killed. That's pathetic

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

Is that Happy Cat?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Is that Happy Cat?

Oh dear god, i see another wildly out of control cat pizza thread. I don't get cat pizza?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I think he did take time to think about it because he apparently had time to talk to the woman and for her to make up a lie that she was pregnant.

I do have some sympathy for the man, if he was beaten. But she was running away. He should have remembered what she looked like for a good police sketch. He killed her for revenge, not because he was in danger.

I agree that split-second decisions are made, but I think people are too quick to think "Gun time!" instead of "What is really happening here?"

And when you read carefully, you will find that revenge is what it is really all about with the gun aficionado crowd.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

And when you read carefully, you will find that revenge is what it is really all about with the gun aficionado crowd.

If you walked in your house and saw your wife or daughter gettting raped would you attack the attacker with anything readily at hand or would call 911 and wait for the police to arrive? If you had a baseball bat handy, would you watch him run out the door or would you be swinging at him? My bet is instinct would take over and you'd be clubbing him like tomorrow.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

If you walked in your house and saw your wife or daughter gettting raped would you attack the attacker with anything readily at hand or would call 911 and wait for the police to arrive? If you had a baseball bat handy, would you watch him run out the door or would you be swinging at him? My bet is instinct would take over and you'd be clubbing him like tomorrow.

That's a different discussion altogether, isn't it?

[spookyturtle 9,466]

That's a different discussion altogether, isn't it?

Not really. You react to a situation. People react differently. If someone broke into your house and wailed the tar out of you, you might take action with a gun or another object, even if they tried to flee. Call it revenge, call it whatever you want. Plenty of people would do the same thing if the stakes were important enough to them. That's why I used the rape example. The guy sees you and tries to flee. I'm betting you'd do everything in your power to stop him. What's the difference in this situation? The old man was enraged, he was attacked and injured in his own home. The whole shooting incident took a couple of seconds.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Not really. You react to a situation. People react differently. If someone broke into your house and wailed the tar out of you, you might take action with a gun or another object, even if they tried to flee. Call it revenge, call it whatever you want. Plenty of people would do the same thing if the stakes were important enough to them. That's why I used the rape example. The guy sees you and tries to flee. I'm betting you'd do everything in your power to stop him. What's the difference in this situation? The old man was enraged, he was attacked and injured in his own home. The whole shooting incident took a couple of seconds.

Yes, really. Maybe I'm just an oddball here but I believe property is very different from family. So, I would consider and react to a crime against my property differently than I would to a crime against the life and well-being of my family. Maybe others won't distinguish between their TV and their wife or between their car and their child but I most certainly would.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Yes, really. Maybe I'm just an oddball here but I believe property is very different from family. So, I would consider and react to a crime against my property differently than I would to a crime against the life and well-being of my family. Maybe others won't distinguish between their TV and their wife or between their car and their child but I most certainly would.

The man was assaulted and had his collar bone broken. He is 80 years old.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

The man was assaulted and had his collar bone broken. He is 80 years old.

But was his TV ok? That magic few seconds when they put down his TV and started assaulting him ?? Sorry but if you are in my house unlawfully, then you have bad intentions, and I am not going to wait until you put down the Silver long enough to draw a gun

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

When we are having a decent discussion, why do you have to splash in some snide remarks about how I don't care about my family?

Of course people make quick decisions in scary situations, and no one can plan how they would react, but I think we can try to change the conversation when we are not in danger. Instead of thinking of guns first no matter what, I think cooler heads should prevail.

I don't think the vast majority of burglars plan for people to be in the house when they do it, and I think most would leave when they realized. If someone is attacking you, of course you can defend yourself. But most home invasions are not about murder, that it not the goal, the goal is stealing stuff. If someone is walking or running away, it is not a free pass to kill them because they used to be in your house.

Gear down, big shifter. Not AT ALL what Spooky is saying. Just inciting you to think how you would feel about your own family being attacked as opposed to armchair quarterbacking a stranger. That's all. Edited July 30, 2014 by DavenRoxy

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

Yes, really. Maybe I'm just an oddball here but I believe property is very different from family. So, I would consider and react to a crime against my property differently than I would to a crime against the life and well-being of my family. Maybe others won't distinguish between their TV and their wife or between their car and their child but I most certainly would.

Not an oddball so much as a pot stirrer.

If I or my family were attacked I would fight back with all I had. That's a normal human reaction.

Unfortunately for this guy, shooting a criminal outside your house usually ends 8 a guilty charge. It sucks in light of the whole situation. If no family prosecutes, he might come out ok. One can only hope...

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

A person in retreat was shot in the back and dies. The perpetrator should be brought up on and convicted of murder charges. Period.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Gear down, big shifter. Not AT ALL what Spooky is saying. Just inciting you to think how you would feel about your own family being attacked as opposed to armchair quarterbacking a stranger. That's all.

Thank you. That is exactly what my intent was and I thought I worded it clearly. I have no idea where she got the idea that I was incinuating that she didn't care about her family.