Facts All US Citizens Need to Know About Israel and Palestine

[mota bhai 2,675]

Hey, if Hamas wants to see an end to dead kids then all they have to do is wave that white flag and say I'm sorry.

Their opponent is superior to them so really, that is their only choice.

[GandD 5,966]

Yeah but they have Allah.

[decocker 7,198]

sure.

[GandD 5,966]

Arab speaking Muslims can safely live in any number of countries in the region.

Jews can not. All they have is Israel. And Israel is really, really, tiny.

So personally, I forgive them for doing whateverthehellittakes to keep their country from 'falling into the sea' as the Arabs (and Persians) have repeatedly said they'd like to see happen.

Me too really.

[mota bhai 2,675]

If they think their version of the magical fairy in the sky absolves them of the responsibility to not pick fights they have no hopes of winning, then I'm afraid all those kids are as good as dead.

[GandD 5,966]

Its not that Muslims are incapable of having a respectable state, the problem is the crazy people are all the one's leading the charge to take power.

[mota bhai 2,675]

Its not that Muslims are incapable of having a respectable state, the problem is the crazy people are all the one's leading the charge to take power.

Let's limit the conversation to Palestine. I tend to think plenty of Muslim-majority countries are respectable. Some examples: Morocco, Indonesia, Malaysia, Jordan, the UAE. There are others.

[GandD 5,966]

Let's limit the conversation to Palestine. I tend to think plenty of Muslim-majority countries are respectable. Some examples: Morocco, Indonesia, Malaysia, Jordan, the UAE. There are others.

Ok. Still all a bit archaic in their views of social morality IMO, but hey that's me. We need to figure out whatever it is that Christians in Europe and somewhat in the US have mentally done to act like they're religious but not be "too serious" about it and then give that to the Muslims. How do we convince Marvin to eat a little bacon every so often? They need the concept of "saved" All you gotta do is say Jesus is your lord and savior, and you're good.

There is only one God and Muhammad is his prophet. Say that every Sunday or Saturday, then drink and party and eat pork through the week.

[decocker 7,198]

how do you deal with american christians who honestly believe that they must put an end to islam because it's what jesus wants? it's all completely stupid.

[GandD 5,966]

how do you deal with american christians who honestly believe that they must put an end to islam because it's what jesus wants? it's all completely stupid.

Percentage wise, that's a pretty low number and decreasing more and more. Even around here people are too lazy about their faith to really do much.

[decocker 7,198]

Percentage wise, that's a pretty low number and decreasing more and more. Even around here people are too lazy about their faith to really do much.

you sure about that?

[mota bhai 2,675]

We need to figure out whatever it is that Christians in Europe and somewhat in the US have mentally done to act like they're religious but not be "too serious" about it and then give that to the Muslims. How do we convince Marvin to eat a little bacon every so often?

There's already quite a bit of that. There were a ton of Muslim kids where I went to college and most of them did un-Islamic things as a matter of course and would get all pious around this time of year (Ramadan/Ramzan).

Even during the years I spent in India (in an area with lots of Muslims), they broke the rules a lot. Especially when no one was looking.

how do you deal with american christians who honestly believe that they must put an end to islam because it's what jesus wants? it's all completely stupid.

put an end to Islam? I've never heard of that. You need to move!

[GandD 5,966]

you sure about that?

Yeah. Pretty sure. People may say stuff, but they don't DO anything about it. So who cares.

There's already quite a bit of that. There were a ton of Muslim kids where I went to college and most of them did un-Islamic things as a matter of course and would get all pious around this time of year (Ramadan/Ramzan).

Even during the years I spent in India (in an area with lots of Muslims), they broke the rules a lot. Especially when no one was looking.

That's what we need. Islam Lite.

[mota bhai 2,675]

It already exists. There's more of that than anything else, at least in the Muslim communities I've been familiar with.

But they don't go around bombing things, so we don't hear about them. We hear about ISIS with their black kalima flags instead.

[decocker 7,198]

Yeah. Pretty sure. People may say stuff, but they don't DO anything about it. So who cares.

so, demonizing islam/muslims to young children in sunday school over the entirety of their childhood and constant fear mongering of entire congragations from the pulpit will have no lasting effect on the path of history? i thought for sure that teaching small impressionable minds to be prepared to war for the one true god tended to cause trouble. but whew...