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http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/facts-us-citizens-need-know-israel-palestine.html

Gaza (along with the West Bank and East Jerusalem) is occupied Palestinian territory under international law, determined by the vast majority of the world, as well as the highest court in the world, the UN’s International Court of Justice. Gaza cannot commit aggression against Israel, since Israel is in constant and continual commission of illegal aggression against Palestine by occupying it (illegally and sadistically blockading it and frequently committing terrorism against its civilians, including by targeting them with chemical weapons provided by US taxpayers – see “Rain of Fire” by Human Rights Watch). As documented by Amnesty Int’l, Human Rights Watch, and many others, Israel intentionally targets and murders civilians, including children, en masse.

Israel also kidnaps and tortures children, including by keeping them in outdoor cages, over night, in winter.

But, even ignoring international law and that Gaza is under illegal Israeli occupation, Gaza did not initiate this current round of violence; Israel did:

Western/US/Israeli propaganda says the violence started with the kidnapping and killing of three Israeli youths on June 12th. That is a lie:

On May 20th, the Israeli government murdered 2 unarmed Palestinian teens, one on video, and wounded a third.

The firing of pathetic scrap metal rockets from impoverished Gaza, which have killed no one, were in fact launched in response to earlier Israeli bombings, killings, assassinations, and arrests of Palestinians, including children.

Since the year 2000, Israel has killed 1,500 Palestinian children, while Palestinians have killed 132 Israeli children. That means Israel has killed over 1,000% percent more Palestinian children than vice versa.

As documented by the Washington DC based non-Profit, The Jerusalem Fund, Israel breaks far more ceasefires than Palestine – this includes firing of the Palestinian scrap metal rockets.

For example, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and many other human rights organizations reported that in Israel’s 2009 Gaza Massacre, Israel killed about 450 children, and it was Israel, they documented, that broke the ceasefire. (In that massacre, Israel killed overall from 1,400 to 7,000 Palestinians, almost all civilians, while 13 Israelis were killed, several from friendly fire.)

According to a landmark, comprehensive study of all of Israel’s wars, by Zeev Maoz, Professor of Political Science at the University of California, Davis, former head of the Graduate School of Government and Policy and of the Jaffee Center for Strategic Studies at Tel Aviv University, and former academic director of the M.A. Program at the Israeli Defense Forces’ National Defense College:

“. most of the wars in which Israel was involved were the result of deliberate Israeli aggressive design . None of these wars – with the possible exception of the 1948 War of independence – was what Israel refers to as Milhemet Ein Berah (war of necessity). They were all wars of choice . ” – Defending the Holy Land, pg. 35, (bold added)

“I review a number of peace-related opportunities ranging from the Zionist-Hashemite collusion in 1947 through the collapse of the Oslo Process in 2000. In all those cases I find that Israeli decision makers – who had been willing to embark upon bold and daring military adventures – were extremely reluctant to make even the smallest concessions for peace . I also find in many cases Israel was engaged in systematic violations of agreements and tacit understandings between itself and its neighbors.” – Defending the Holy Land, pg. 40

Israel has violated more UN resolutions than any other country. That includes Iraq under Hussein.

Hamas is the government elected by Gaza in elections that Jimmy Carter (and many others) observed and said were completely fair and free. Israel constantly says Hamas uses human shields. But in Israel’s biggest massacre of Gaza, the one in 2009, all the human rights organizations, including Amnesty, HRW, and the jurist Richard Goldstone, found that Hamas DID NOT use human shields. On the contrary, Israel used human shields, which is a regular practice for Israel. Israel uses civilians as human shields.

Israel forced Palestinian civilians to dig and lay naked in trenches around Israeli tanks. See here at 6:45.

Goldstone Report:

XIV. THE USE OF PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS AS HUMAN SHIELDS

“The Mission received allegations that in two areas in north Gaza Israeli troops used Palestinian men as human shields… The Mission found the foregoing witnesses to be credible and reliable. It has no reason to doubt the veracity of their accounts and found that the different stories serve to support the allegation that Palestinians were used as human shields.”

Noam Chomsky: “Hamas is regularly described as ‘Iranian-backed Hamas, which is dedicated to the destruction of Israel.’ One will be hard put to find something like ‘democratically elected Hamas, which has long been calling for a two-state settlement in accord with the international consensus’—blocked for over 30 years by the US and Israel. All true, but not a useful contribution to the Party Line, hence dispensable.”

In the history of all rocket and mortar fire into Israel, 26 people, total, have been killed. And remember, Palestine breaks ceasefires far less often than Israel, as documented above.

This number of 26 is in contrast to the minimum number of 1,400 people who were murdered by Israel in a single one of its terrorist atrocities, the 2009 Gaza Massacre.

Noting that in the current massacre, zero Israelis and over 100 Palestinians have thus far been killed, and noting that Gaza is a concentration camp – Israel allows no one to enter or leave – Dan Sanchez gives a perfect description of the disparity in arms between the US/Israeli war machine and Palestinian scrap metal projectiles: “They [the Gazans] are like fish in a barrel, being blasted by a shotgun from above. It’s like some of the fish in the barrel pathetically spitting water at the gunman, and [uS media calls] that a “shooting battle.”

The rhetoric and tactics of Hamas and other groups resisting Israeli occupation and colonization can be brutal (though far less so than Israel). Propagandists try to attribute this to anti-Semitism, to distract from the fact that these groups are resisting having their country stolen and their people dispossessed and annihilated. Native American resistance to European colonizers was sometimes extremely brutal, as was their rhetoric, but everyone universally recognizes that this was not because of “anti-White-ism”, or “anti-European-ism”, but because they were having their land stolen and their people massacred, the same thing that Israel is doing to the Palestinians.

Palestinians have the right under international law to resist occupation, ethnic cleansing, colonization, aggression, and annexation. Miko Peled, son of an Israeli general, recently stated that if Israel doesn’t Like rockets, they should decolonize Palestine. Dr. Norman Finkelstein notes that “The Palestinians have the right to use arms to resist an occupation . However, the fact that morally and legally they have that right doesn’t mean that it’s the most prudent strategy. In my opinion, a national Palestinian leadership committed to mobilizing nonviolent resistance can defeat the Israeli occupation if those of us living abroad lend support to it.”

In 1948, the people who wanted to form a Jewish state carried out a massive terror and ethnic cleansing campaign against the occupants of Palestine, expelling about half of them (750,000) from their land and into concentrated areas (Gaza and West Bank). Israel has slowly continued colonizing even those areas, which were specifically reserved by the UN for Palestinians. Israel takes all the best land and resources, such as water. Here is a visualization of what has happened, and is currently happening with massive support from Obama:

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nothing that even remotely suggests that israel should maybe possibly back off a bit can be fact, nb.

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01/08/2013: Received Case Number/IIN; DS-3032/I-864 Bill
01/08/2013: DS-3032 Sent
01/18/2013: DS-3032 Accepted; Received IV Bill
01/23/2013: Paid I-864 Bill; Paid IV Bill
02/05/2013: IV Package Sent
02/18/2013: AOS Package Sent
03/22/2013: Case complete
05/06/2013: Interview Scheduled

06/05/2013: Visa issued!

06/28/2013: VISA RECEIVED

07/09/2013: POE - EWR. Went super fast and easy. 5 minutes of waiting and then just a signature and finger print.

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05/06/2016: One month late - overnighted form N-400.

06/01/2016: Original Biometrics appointment, had to reschedule due to being away.

07/01/2016: Biometrics Completed.

08/17/2016: Interview scheduled & approved.

09/16/2016: Scheduled oath ceremony.

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Lets set up a 50 by 50 mile piece of desert with no people and ask both sides to confine the fighting to only that location to guarantee civilians will not be used as shields.. I wonder which side would agree to that? That is the answer to who is wanting civilians in the way.

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Lets set up a 50 by 50 mile piece of desert with no people and ask both sides to confine the fighting to only that location to guarantee civilians will not be used as shields.. I wonder which side would agree to that? That is the answer to who is wanting civilians in the way.

will they have an equal arsenal as well?

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will they have an equal arsenal as well?

Hardly.. If they were equal one side would not have needed to hide behind civilians in the first place... That's the whole point - one side has every reason politically and "militarily" to want civilians in the battle.

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Hardly.. If they were equal one side would not have needed to hide behind civilians in the first place... That's the whole point - one side has every reason politically and "militarily" to want civilians in the battle.

and the other has every reason to exploit this angle to their advantage.

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If the other side had the advantage, there would be a different flag flying over Jerusalem and Judaism would prob be outlawed or punishable by death. Israel may suck, in many ways, but they are certainly better than the alternative of more Islamic states.

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If the other side had the advantage, there would be a different flag flying over Jerusalem and Judaism would prob be outlawed or punishable by death. Israel may suck, in many ways, but they are certainly better than the alternative of more Islamic states.

that's a no-brainer. but imo so is siding with humanity when the death toll is 700 > 32.

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that's a no-brainer. but imo so is siding with humanity when the death toll is 700 > 32.

What can you do though? What strategy would stop the killing in the middle east or Africa for that matter? We just make things worse. Can't get rid of countries or religions. I mean, these guys are fighting over a tiny crappy piece of land with almost no natural resources. All because the three big religions think its magic.

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Arab speaking Muslims can safely live in any number of countries in the region.

Jews can not. All they have is Israel. And Israel is really, really, tiny.

So personally, I forgive them for doing whateverthehellittakes to keep their country from 'falling into the sea' as the Arabs (and Persians) have repeatedly said they'd like to see happen.

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What can you do though? What strategy would stop the killing in the middle east or Africa for that matter? We just make things worse. Can't get rid of countries or religions. I mean, these guys are fighting over a tiny crappy piece of land with almost no natural resources. All because the three big religions think its magic.

i can't do jack. all i can do is keep paying my taxes and watching my hard earned money at work all over the world.

when are people going to understand that just as they feel righteous in claiming that hamas is terrorist, to the families ripped apart and destroyed, the other side will always be the terrorists? both sides call for resistance. and there is no end to it, ever.

but of course, as an atheist, my opinion on religion is biased. as is my opinion of israel/palestineans. i'll cop to that cause if anything it's biased by what i was taught as a child in church, support for israel is imperative to the survival of christianity in america and ultimately victory upon jesus' return.

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