The moan and groan thread

[brnidokiegurl 0]

Your not reading all the moans and groans?

[brnidokiegurl 0]

Your not reading all the moans and groans?

[brnidokiegurl 0]

Your not reading all the moans and groans?

Sorry darn computer wasnt moving

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In summery:

My mom Used my bank account while I was in Jordan to pay for car payments.

My daughter was suppose to pay my bills for me but didnt so I am behind three months.

I gave my daughter all my extra money to pay her bills.

I dont have a job yet so no money comming in but child support.

My daughter moved in with me 18, her husband and baby too. All in a three bedroom small house.

I was pregnant that is why I came back to the USA from Jordan.

I lost the baby.

My mom tried to take me to court to get custody of my children as she didnt want me to take them to Jordan.

Since she lost that, she got intouch with my bipolar ex husband and tried to get him to take me to court (he who has supervised visitations and he hasnt seen the girls in a year or so)

I have interviewd and tested for ONE job four times and have to go in tomorrow and monday for final tests and interview.

I dont have a car but I did buy my daughter a car before I left, but someone smashed out her window and she doesnt have insurance on it...

I have a 13 yr old with a attitude from hades. She is a red head so should I say more?

I have a 11 yr old who cried because she had to take pubic busses to school and she was terrified to go alone.

I have shut off notices from Electric and Gas and the phone charge to start phone service is 300.00. but you have to have a phone to get a job right?

I had the flu, then pneumonia.

I am now on antidepressants but I cant sleep from them

My best friend brought me groceries and gave me 100.00

My husbands bil died and he has to take care of his sister and her three kids on top of another divorced sister and a sister who has cerebral palsy. He is working so much

DH had a heart attack due to stress and highblood pressure.

My house needs a good cleaning and with three girls living here well four with me, it should be spotless. I cant do it all!

I have a yeast infection...sigh!

I miss my husband

But hang in there!!!!!!!!!!

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And the winner is.......................YOU!!!!!!!!

[brnidokiegurl 0]

I said sorry, it WASN'T responding

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finally, a contest i hope i never win

[ELW 5]

In summery:

But hang in there!!!!!!!!!!

(I din't quote the whole thing cuz it was so long!) I agree, you win! (and, one of the few that has stuck to the origional thread subject!)

Hope things get better & improve for you, day by day.

[brnidokiegurl 0]

On a serious side i do have a question, probably not the right place to post but i know those that will have the answers are here. In the religious teaching (of which i am learning from what you all tell me) so this is just a (in example) question. Smoking, drinking and eating of the pork are forbidden? right? Ok so now my question is, how can one make the decision to do one (say smoke) knowing they are going against what is taught. How can you be selective in which parts you want to follow and which you dont, what could the possible argument be to allow some and not the other?

Next how many of your men do smoke, drink or do both?

How many of you girls smoke or drink or do both?

Im just curious to hear opinions, i dont want judgements or name calling and i dont want this to be 50 pages of you said, he said, why did you say,

[Bosco 1]

It will never cease to amaze me how people can read into posts what they want. No one here had a problem with the talk of sex toys as much as they had a problem with the contradictory behaviors and thoughts that run rampant in MENA. Anyone who is in MENA on a regular basis and bothers to take the time to understand what they are reading and the dynamics at play here know exactly to what I am referring.

If anyone thinks jokes about sex toys are inappropriate they so not have to post (as I amsure several did) and if you think jokes about sex toys are amusing, then knock youself out. But do not come here one day protraying yourself as a conservative muslima witha conservative MENA husband living a modest lifestyle only to turn aroudn and call other people prudes for questioning the NOT the appropriateness of a sex joke, but guestioning the contradictory nature of your posts.

Exactly. It is the contradiction that is the issue.

[Bosco 1]

Next how many of your men do smoke, drink or do both?

How many of you girls smoke or drink or do both?

Im just curious to hear opinions, i dont want judgements or name calling and i dont want this to be 50 pages of you said, he said, why did you say,

Neither my husband nor I smoke, drink, or eat pork for that matter.

As an aside, we don't go around passing judgements on those who do. However, if I read someone on here calling someone out for drinking or smoking and then go on to talk about what they do that is out of line with their religion (by definitions they themselves have given), I would probably speak up. My speaking up would be about their hypocrisy and not whatever behavior they are engaging in. I probably do several things I feel are not what I should be doing in a single day, so I try not to be critical of how others are are handling their faith; however, when someone calls others out saying it clear, easy, the behavior is indulgent etc, and then goes on to make an exception for themself, it proves it isn't always so clear or easy and nearly everyone indulges in something or other.

[peezey 0]

Ok so now my question is, how can one make the decision to do one (say smoke) knowing they are going against what is taught. How can you be selective in which parts you want to follow and which you dont, what could the possible argument be to allow some and not the other?

Because people are human and sometimes people become addicted to cigarettes because they started too young, or whatever the case may be. Or because they've chosen some things aren't as important to them. It's their own personal decision, because it's their religion to practice. I don't think it matters how people choose to follow their religion, but if they call someone out for something and then later do the same thing, that's hypocrisy, and that's the issue on this thread.

[Private 1]

What makes me angry is this word "hypocrisy"? In Islam it does not have the same weight that it does in Christianity. I feel like when people try to look at Islam and compare they always some up short. When you are a Muslims you take things a step at a time, trying to be a Muslim is not an over night process. The prophet or God I am not sure which one did not recommend, however, we are not to embraces all aspects of the religion because you will go crazy and just dismiss it all.

It is like a 12 step progress because it is a lot of things that you have to learn and also you have to navigate through the culture that is incorporated however it is not really religion. A big one is like changing your name? Why do people do this, I choose not to and neither is my son name going to be change. There is nothing wrong with it and our names do not have blasphemes meanings. So why do this, because someone said I should. As you grow in the religion you grow in your faith and your practices and things began to be incorporated in your life. The 5 pillars however are considered to the be must when it comes to Islam and as you do these everything comes naturally.

Me I have my demons that I fight and or course everyone has theirs, how you choice to deal with and as long as you are not hurting anyone I think you are doing great. No Muslim can say that someone is not Muslim. If I say something and do something that is what I have to deal with not anyone else. I think the thing that gets under people skins that someone that claims to not practice a faith or they are a religion however they say things that are clearly not what they are suppose to do.

I do not see Muslims attacking other groups, but when it is the other way around you see it go until the trend is closed. We all come from various backgrounds and cultures and I think that I learn something from you guys even though I may not like what was said or happened. Besides tomorrow is another day.

But I will close with this “How Muslim I am” is my busy. It is my personal relationship with god not yours or anybody else. And if it is what you say, that a Muslim is calling people out and trying to explain the opposite culture/religion etc. then I would be more than happy to them to- “Mind your business and there relationship with their god is their business.” However I know that this is the other way around.

[brnidokiegurl 0]

Good answers and thank you to each, keep it away from previous thread. I dont smoke or drink either but Ahmed does both, does not drink like a drunk, but still will have a drink. Just because i dont i wont down someone that does either, but might question how they can choose to do that over another teaching but i do know in the end will be a personal thing. Just curious to others thinkings