Civil surgeon required?

[landr 126]

My original copy of the DS-3025 (received at the end of the medical) didn't mention my Varicella history, so they corrected it and emailed me a scan of the amended sheet. Albeit, this was over the weekend after the medical (a Friday) and they hadn't sent my results to the embassy yet.

Give the volume of medicals, it's doubtful they keep physical copies of paperwork, but they might have an electronic copy they can email to you. At the price of a few minutes' of your time to compose and send the email, might be worth emailing the Knightsbridge office to check.

Otherwise, I'd go with Nich-Nick's explanatory letter. Personally don't understand why they would need a copy of something when they've already got an original in the file.

If you want to go down the CS route, and you've not seen it yet, this thread might be helpful:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/231026-civil-surgeons-who-dont-rip-you-off/

[Dave&Roza 748]

I have called a handful of civil surgeons already and they all say they will only sign off on vaccinations if he takes the medical exam again..

Which is NOT required at all. We found a CS that would complete the vaccination record, but insisted that my wife get a flu shot--it worked, she got the flu. PLEASE read the following instructions and look to Section III: page 5 question #3. It tells you what is needed very clearly IMHO. If your husband is sure his vaccination records were complete you can forget about the I-693 as the medical was complete or you have to have the CS complete the vaccination record of the I-693--YOU DO NOT NEED ANOTHER COMPLETE MEDICAL.

Please reread Nich-nick's post #11 as he has already told you what you need to do. I am just re-iterating it here for you.

Dave

[raven52 233]

Three couples whose wives were from the Phils., 1 had to go to civil surgeon, and two did not, approved nearly same times, to me just depends on the AOS,.,..,.,

We all know each other, and good friends.,.,so what happened is accurate.

[corvusheart 163]

Does the doctor have to complete the entire I-693 or just part of it?

Edited July 19, 2014 by corvusheart

[Dave&Roza 748]

Does the doctor have to complete the entire I-693 or just part of it?

This is where you MUST shop around for the correct CS. Some understand all you need to do is transcribe the vaccination record onto the I-693, but you need the DS-3025 in order to do that and you say it is missing. So the CS will have to do a complete physical. You options are:

1) Follow Nich-Nick's advice which I highly recommend you re-read post #11.

2) Find the DS-3025 (or see if you can get a copy from Knightsbridge) and find a CS who will transcribe that onto the I-693,

3) Goto a CS and pay out the nose for another medical and get the entire I-693 completed.

Your application, your money, your time, your choice. You have been given advice from people who have gone thru this process at the same location you have and have completed this step. I would heed their advice and not pay much attention to those that went thru this process in the PI. All Embassies/Consulates are different in how they handle the medical, but USCIS is fairly consistent--if the DS-3025 is completed and indicates all vaccinations are current then that will suffice for the USCIS. If the DS-3025 is not complete then you need a CS to transcript those vaccinations onto the I-693 and then give the missing shots or indicate they are not needed. That is the ONLY part of the I-693 that needs to be completed.

Good luck on your decision,

Dave

Edited July 19, 2014 by Dave&Roza

[Boiler 45,663]

I found a CS who filled the form in for no charge, only took a few minutes. I had all my jabs.

He was busy and I guess did not want to do the billing or he was just having a good day.

[corvusheart 163]

So if we don't have a DS 3025 we have to do a complete medical again?

[Boiler 45,663]

I had documentation to confirm I had the jabs so no need for the full medical.

[corvusheart 163]

As do we. We have his vaccinations records from his local doctor. Will that suffice for the Civil Surgeon? The other poster implies we need the 3025 just to get the surgeon to fill out the 694. I'd this true?

Edited July 19, 2014 by corvusheart

[Boiler 45,663]

Worked for me.

YMMV

[Nich-Nick 3,354]

This is to Dave&Roza. Not answering corvusheart who refuses to believe me.

..... but you need the DS-3025 in order to do that and you say it is missing. So the CS will have to do a complete physical.

^ No. This is not correct ^

A civil surgeon can take records from your foreign personal doctor, school records, Boots the chemist (UK), a US health Dept, a US personal physician, Walgreens, Duane Reade....anybody or anything that documents you having a shot.

And what document(s) you present to prove shots does not mean you need a full exam. Not related.

Reasons to do another full exam:

1) it's been more than 12 months since the K1 exam

2) USCIS sends an RFE saying your medical file (turned in at POE) can not be found.

3) You can't find a civil surgeon willing to do only your shots (if you didn't get them before visa medical) so you give up and pay the $xxx.xx instead of arguing or continuing to search. If you do this, you are robbed of money you could have saved.

[corvusheart 163]

I found a CS that is willing to just sign off without full medical exam. Nich you are probably right and they will locate it. But in case they lose it I want to have this filed with AOS. $75 was the price. He was the only CS I could find in Minnesota that would do it without full exam.

[Nich-Nick 3,354]

I found a CS that is willing to just sign off without full medical exam. Nich you are probably right and they will locate it. But in case they lose it I want to have this filed with AOS. $75 was the price. He was the only CS I could find in Minnesota that would do it without full exam.

Oh Lordy, I can't help but comment again.

Put on your thinking cap. This a little logic quiz. You are going to pay $75 to get a new version of something already done and dusted and on file. That is "just in case" they lose the brown envelope, he will be cleared on immunizations for AOS.

So the questions--

1) "Just in case" they lose the brown envelope, what else does it contain that he will NO LONGER be cleared on for AOS?

2) What will he have to do to fix that?

[landr 126]

1) "Just in case" they lose the brown envelope, what else does it contain that he will NO LONGER be cleared on for AOS?

2) What will he have to do to fix that?

I know it happens, but this seems unimaginable and the OP and her husband would have to be incredibly unlucky.

Methinks a can of worms has been opened...

Personally, I'd just go with your previous advice to write the cover letter.

[Dave&Roza 748]

This is to Dave&Roza. Not answering corvusheart who refuses to believe me.

^ No. This is not correct ^

A civil surgeon can take records from your foreign personal doctor, school records, Boots the chemist (UK), a US health Dept, a US personal physician, Walgreens, Duane Reade....anybody or anything that documents you having a shot.

And what document(s) you present to prove shots does not mean you need a full exam. Not related.

Reasons to do another full exam:

1) it's been more than 12 months since the K1 exam

2) USCIS sends an RFE saying your medical file (turned in at POE) can not be found.

3) You can't find a civil surgeon willing to do only your shots (if you didn't get them before visa medical) so you give up and pay the $xxx.xx instead of arguing or continuing to search. If you do this, you are robbed of money you could have saved.

Yes, you are correct and I was not complete in my response. I guess I was just trying to get the OP to "see the light" and just submit the AOS without worrying about the DS-3025 or the I-693 and write the letter you suggested and just get on with the AOS.

I will endeavor to be more precise in the future and thanks for pointing out my errors.

OP: Why not just send in the AOS and IF they do in fact lose the medical you contact that CS to have him address the RFE that is sent. This process is way too expensive to just throw $75 way for no reason. At least wait until there is a reason. If they do not lose it and you still have that $75, go out to a nice dinner instead.

Dave

Edited July 19, 2014 by Dave&Roza