Obama picks female non-pilot to be commander of Pacific Air Forces

[JohnR! 5,495]

just tryina sniff out some free stuff. hitting all the threads with 'obama' in the title first.

aka 'the trollosphere'....

Rumor has it Marvin is hoarding all the free stuff in preparation for his retirement.

BS... He did not vote for Obama the required 5 times in each election, therefore he does not qualify for free stuff...

[Karee 4,191]

Obama wasn't qualified to be president when he was elected, so no surprise here.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Obama wasn't qualified to be president when he was elected, so no surprise here.

However, before you self-indulge in the usual histrionics associated with ODS, the real question is whether Lori is qualified for the job. Why don't you just tell us what you know about her, outside of what is in the copy provided by the OP. That might be more in tune with the actual topic of this thread, n'est ce pas?

[Peikko 1,575]

Point given for picking a woman who kind of LOOKS like a dude

I am sure, in her lofty position she really cares what you think she looks like. Typical though, a woman has to be seen through the prism of 'is she hot or not' by some blokes regardless of any other qualification a woman has. Must be wonderful to be you, controlled by your ####### rather than your brain.

[Karee 4,191]

However, before you self-indulge in the usual histrionics associated with ODS, the real question is whether Lori is qualified for the job. Why don't you just tell us what you know about her, outside of what is in the copy provided by the OP. That might be more in tune with the actual topic of this thread, n'est ce pas?

No idea what ODS is and don't really care TBH. My point is that the person that appointed her, to her job was not qualified to do his. So the appointment kinda makes sense.

[Expat1 971]

I am sure, in her lofty position she really cares what you think she looks like. Typical though, a woman has to be seen through the prism of 'is she hot or not' by some blokes regardless of any other qualification a woman has. Must be wonderful to be you, controlled by your ####### rather than your brain.

Please be unstunned to know that I could give two schticks about what a woman who "was nominated for a promotion amid a drive for more diversity in the Pentagon" cares about or does not care about. "A drive for more diversity in the Pentagon" = unearned rather than earned "lofty position" so in addition to "not much of a woman" she can add "not much of a commander" to her resume. Neither my ####### nor my brain have anything to do with these deficiencies.. Have a pleasant day.

Edited July 18, 2014 by Expat1

[decocker 7,198]

so what do you guys think about her earrings?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Obama wasn't qualified to be president when he was elected, so no surprise here.

Which of the constitutionally prescribed qualifications for the Office of President of the United States did he fail to meet?

Edited July 18, 2014 by Mr. Big Dog

[UncleBeer 244]

Not dissimilar to this case:

Obama picks non-pilot to head Air Force in Pacific Promotion sought in diversity drive

The White House has picked the first female general to head the Air Force in the Pacific, which will make her the first non-pilot to command air power in such a large theater of operation.

The Pentagon announced this week that Air ForceLt. Gen. Lori J. Robinson has been nominated for promotion to four-star general and as commander of Pacific Air Forces, the Air Force component of U.S. Pacific Command. It is a major combatant command whose air, ground and naval forces have broad responsibility for security in the Asia-Pacific region. Her nomination was sent to the Senate for confirmation.

Officials said pilots historically have commanded Air Force war-fighting components for the Pacific and for U.S. Air Forces Europe; Air Forces Central, which covers the Middle East and Afghanistan; and the 1st Air Force, which is part of Northern Command and protects U.S. skies.

Gen. Robinson is not a career pilot. Her military profession is air battle manager. She has served aboard the Air Force’s surveillance aircraft, the E-3 AWACs and E-8 JSTARS, and she was nominated for a promotion amid a drive for more diversity in the Pentagon.

A retired pilot said there is a reason the Air Force historically has put a pilot in charge of large combatant command Air Forces.

“It is because you make operational decisions that require the understanding of what you are going to ask pilots to execute in combat where the wrong decisions mean the difference between life and death,” the retired pilot said. “Now her vice commander and director of operations will be rated fighter pilots, but still she makes the decisions.”

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/17/air-force-command-nominee-is-1st-woman-non-pilot/?page=1#ixzz37rCJxHLD
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Qualifications are overrated.

[JohnR! 5,495]

No idea what ODS is and don't really care TBH. My point is that the person that appointed her, to her job was not qualified to do his. So the appointment kinda makes sense.

In the hypothetical scenario resulting from your uninformed assumption, anything could make sense. If English were my first language, I'd say you''re argument is pure sophistry.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Which of the constitutionally prescribed qualifications for the Office of President of the United States did he fail to meet?

I would actually ask what makes her unqualified for the job? No one has yet presented any evidence to that effect based on her miitary record.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

The whole thing stinks, because she was promoted because of a drive for more diversity. The only drive they should have is for the best darn Hard balls and bubble gum war fighter they could find, regardless of sex or race, or even sexual orientation. She go the job because of diversity.

[JohnR! 5,495]

The whole thing stinks, because she was promoted because of a drive for more diversity. The only drive they should have is for the best darn Hard balls and bubble gum war fighter they could find, regardless of sex or race, or even sexual orientation. She go the job because of diversity.

It stinks so much that until this morning no one here knew who she was... :rofl: :rofl: I too share your exacerbated feigned outrage.

You guys are too funny...

Edited July 18, 2014 by JohnR!

[rlogan 2,036]

I would actually ask what makes her unqualified for the job? No one has yet presented any evidence to that effect based on her miitary record.

Lol. Way to pay attention. Did you notice it was the first non-pilot to ever be promoted to such a position? The reason it has been pilots in the past is because - think hard now - they are in charge of operational decisions for fighter pilots in combat. It is generally understood that having been a pilot gives you an understanding about the things you are requiring of your pilots.

Instead of telling us that she was chosen because of her career skills in directing combat operations for air force wings, this is what we get:

Gen Robinson was nominated amid a diversity push by Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and a general focus on women's issues by the White House

I doubt anyone would take issue with a rated combat pilot who was a female taking charge of an air wing. The whole point is that she is "qualified" in the PC armed forces because she is a woman.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Lol. Way to pay attention. Did you notice it was the first non-pilot to ever be promoted to such a position? The reason it has been pilots in the past is because - think hard now - they are in charge of operational decisions for fighter pilots in combat. It is generally understood that having been a pilot gives you an understanding about the things you are requiring of your pilots.

Again you are making assumptions. Operational decisions have nothing to do with telling pilots how to fly their planes, which is what you are suggesting. I now understand where your misunderstanding originates.

You need not know how the internal combiustion engine works, nor must you be a seasoned driver to understand that you should not try to drive a car under water and, to avoid Lex or 5th during rush hour. The only thing you need to know is how to choose the appropriate vehicle for the task at hand.

Again, there is nothing concrete that would suggest she is not qualified for the position, but I concede that for outsiders it must look so. No harm done.

Edited July 18, 2014 by JohnR!