Moral clarity in Gaza

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

That is exactly right. However, the Israeli govt. labels the other side as Islamic terrorists every chance they get. They know how to play the media, and the media (especially the U.S. media) falls for it every time. This is simply the Israeli govt. oppressing people and then when they get called on it raising their hands and saying "wait, we removed our settlements from Gaza years ago" When the reality is that they've blockaded the place since the settlers were removed. They've held up customs payments etc. etc. They've done everything they could possibly do to make sure that the govt. can not function. That said, it does not justify Hamas firing rockets indiscriminately in to civilian areas.

I found the earlier reference about how when the Israelis abandoned the settlements left, they were nice enough the leave some green houses behind, pretty funny. What a humanitarian move.

There certainly are a lot of extremists in Israel as well - vigilantes from the settlements who basically try to lynch Palestinians and that actually gets less press than Hamas does.

I mean you can't say one side is right, but the issue is certainly clouded by extremism. Regardless of what anyone feels about Hamas, they had some level of popular support and you can totally see how a group like that could end up in power.

[rlogan 2,036]

Libruls just won't be happy until they're back in the ghettos lining up in front of furnaces again.

When you essentially accuse others of being mass murderers for disagreeing with you, then you prove the exact opposite of what you think: You wish to paint others as unreasonable when clearly you are the most unreasonable person on this thread. Nobody else is being even remotely so extreme.

Orthodox (conservative) Jews that are against Zionism are really inconvenient to your nasty libel.

It is usually the most savage warmongers amongst us that are busy guilt-tripping the most reasonable amongst us, painting us as terrorists for opposing the Iraq invasion, commies for being against the Viet Nam war, or Nazi exterminators in this case.

[Expat1 971]

When you essentially accuse others of being mass murderers for disagreeing with you, then you prove the exact opposite of what you think: You wish to paint others as unreasonable when clearly you are the most unreasonable person on this thread. Nobody else is being even remotely so extreme.

Orthodox (conservative) Jews that are against Zionism are really inconvenient to your nasty libel.

It is usually the most savage warmongers amongst us that are busy guilt-tripping the most reasonable amongst us, painting us as terrorists for opposing the Iraq invasion, commies for being against the Viet Nam war, or Nazi exterminators in this case.

Good post.

Considering that there are 1.5 million Palestinians packed in 58 camps (people that it is high time, long past time that someone stood up for) that ghetto reference sort of fell flat anyway

Edited July 18, 2014 by Expat1