tourist got married in USA

[Caryh 5,206]

Her prior marriage in Morocco is a non entity in US and that is why they managed to marry in US. In fact that implies that during the consular processing she did not mention the marriage becaue instead she would have been advised to take the IR visa route. Having said that, she can therefore divorce in the US. That means that in her country she is still married because there exists a marriage certificate (In her country). The questions is: What are the chances of getting the tourist visa once the officer realises that she initially came on a tourist visa then married? There will be some prying eyes on this one. It will be even worse if:

1. She actually divorces in her country and

2. While applying for her second tourist visa the officer gets wind of the initial lie that she was married but did not disclose this information in her first tourist visa interview.

Hope that answers your question.

USA recognizes marriages in other countries. If she was married when she filed for the tourist visa and claimed to be single, she committed fraud by lying to the CO and putting false information on the visa application. There is no checking to see if you're already married when you apply for a marriage license in the USA, but it is illegal to marry another person before first terminating your current marriage. If she married the same person again with a license, it really has no affect other than to muddy the waters on the original date of the marriage because now there is two marriage certificates, but legally the earliest would take precedence.

[maryame 1]

Her prior marriage in Morocco is a non entity in US and that is why they managed to marry in US. In fact that implies that during the consular processing she did not mention the marriage becaue instead she would have been advised to take the IR visa route. Having said that, she can therefore divorce in the US. That means that in her country she is still married because there exists a marriage certificate (In her country). The questions is: What are the chances of getting the tourist visa once the officer realises that she initially came on a tourist visa then married? There will be some prying eyes on this one. It will be even worse if:

1. She actually divorces in her country and

2. While applying for her second tourist visa the officer gets wind of the initial lie that she was married but did not disclose this information in her first tourist visa interview.

Hope that answers your question.

no she doesn't need to apply for a second time because she has 10 years in her visa and i asked her she told me that her husband told her that we don't need to tell them because the process is gonna take more time like that

it has been 5 month now and he did not send her file to the immigration

what is the best way to extend her visa without going to morocco? she has only 30 days

[Caryh 5,206]

no she doesn't need to apply for a second time because she has 10 years in her visa and i asked her she told me that her husband told her that we don't need to tell them because the process is gonna take more time like that

it has been 5 month now and he did not send her file to the immigration

what is the best way to extend her visa without going to morocco? she has only 30 days

Not telling them was fraud.

The application to extend the time on the I-94 of a B1/B2 visa

http://www.uscis.gov/i-539

It could be a problem for her though, as you cannot have immigration intent, which it certainly sounds like she has an immigration intent if she married here and hid a marriage to more easily get here.

[Akals78 13]

Caryh Exactly my point! She did not disclose the first marriage so it is not a factor otherwise she would have taken the IR route. Infact if maryame had not mentioned the first marriage to the same guy, the argument would have taken a different direction that she came on a tourist visa and married that in itself attracts flies. So the bottom line is she lied to the CO from the get go (wether she divorces in Morocco or not).

Get this he states up there that "we don't need to tell them" in other words wether she divorces him in Morocco or not there is no effect as long as they (CO) don't have knowledge of that info. Still its not a factor because the first lie is under wraps. I am not condoning it but it is a situation where one thinks the end justifies the means if and only if one does not hurt him/herself in the process.

Can you conclude that she had an immigrating intent if in the first place she was actually married to the same guy? I don't think so. It appears she had an immigrating intent looking at it from the tourist visa angle and that might be the CO's perspective.

Edited July 18, 2014 by Akals78

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

According to the US embassy in Morocco, marriages there are recognised in the US.

http://morocco.usembassy.gov/mobile//service/professional-services/marriage-information.html

[Caryh 5,206]

Caryh Exactly my point! She did not disclose the first marriage so it is not a factor otherwise she would have taken the IR route. Infact if maryame had not mentioned the first marriage to the same guy, the argument would have taken a different direction that she came on a tourist visa and married that in itself attracts flies. So the bottom line is she lied to the CO from the get go (wether she divorces in Morocco or not).

Get this he states up there that "we don't need to tell them" in other words wether she divorces him in Morocco or not there is no effect as long as they (CO) don't have knowledge of that info. Still its not a factor because the first lie is under wraps. I am not condoning it but it is a situation where one thinks the end justifies the means if and only if one does not hurt him/herself in the process.

Can you conclude that she had an immigrating intent if in the first place she was actually married to the same guy? I don't think so. It appears she had an immigrating intent looking at it from the tourist visa angle and that might be the CO's perspective.

The marriage there is a huge factor, because its evidence of fraud, lying on a federal document and lying to the embassy. She could go through all this and become a citizen and if was still found out, the citizenship can be revoked and her removed permanently from the country. The one big rule of immigration is you never lie to the embassy or the department of Homeland security.

[Boiler 45,558]

According to the US embassy in Morocco, marriages there are recognised in the US.

http://morocco.usembassy.gov/mobile//service/professional-services/marriage-information.html

That is not really the issue, they lied to get a B2 saying they were not married and then married in the US to adjust, but he decided not to go through with it.

[maryame 1]

what is the best way to extend her visa without going to morocco please help she doesn't have enough time

[Akals78 13]

You did mention earlier: "A fairly common misconception with people from many countries." that they are not aware that marriages in their countries are recognised. You would think if one is aware that their marriage was recognised one would not take chances with a tourist visa right?. One would actually go for the IR. Would her argument hold any water if she states that she was not aware that her initial marriage was recognised? If the info was known before, a reasonable CO would have advised her that she qualifies for a different visa. What does she need to do now with the current situation if she actually lied whether deliberate or not initially?

[Teddy B 17,252]

what is the best way to extend her visa without going to morocco please help she doesn't have enough time

Seeing this person knowingly committed fraud on her visa application,(or at least knows it now), attempting to extend that visa is also fraud. You probably won't get much help here in committing fraud.

[Merrytooth 5,748]

The tourist visa is valid for 10 years multi-entry to US but that doesn't mean she could use it to live in US for 10 years without leaving.

Her duration stay in US should be stated in her I-94 (you could get it online), normally about 6 months.

Not sure what reasons she could give if she wants to extend her stay in US.

Edited July 18, 2014 by Merrytooth

[Akals78 13]

FiThe I-94 in her passport indicates that she is a non-immigrant in other words she violated the terms of her status so how do you prove nonimmigrant intent if in the first place you violated rules that are visa specific. I think she can go ahead give it a shot and complete the I-539 (Part 4 question 3 c,e and g - Red flag) because time is running out and she does not have a green card if she is not careful she will overstay which will be worse. Yet again the extension is actually not guaranteed. She can always consult a lawyer.

Edited July 18, 2014 by Akals78

[Caryh 5,206]

You did mention earlier: "A fairly common misconception with people from many countries." that they are not aware that marriages in their countries are recognised. You would think if one is aware that their marriage was recognised one would not take chances with a tourist visa right?. One would actually go for the IR. Would her argument hold any water if she states that she was not aware that her initial marriage was recognised? If the info was known before, a reasonable CO would have advised her that she qualifies for a different visa. What does she need to do now with the current situation if she actually lied whether deliberate or not initially?

But the B-2 visa application asks the married status, and that was in her country and the embassy in her country. This is no grey area that can be fudged around. She was married in her country, she filled out the form in her country, then she lied about it. No reasonable person is going to believe she just made a mistake and forgot she was married.

Edited July 18, 2014 by Caryh

[Jamie & Izzy 98]

Sorry for hijacking this post, i have a question i have asked before but never got an answer, so my husband and i got Married in the US while i was visiting the US under the VWP, but we did not get Married in in Morocco as none of us is a Muslim, would that cause any problems for us? in order to get Married here one must be religious so we just skipped that part and got Married in the US instead but now i am worried that at the interview they will think it is Strange :S

[Teddy B 17,252]

Sorry for hijacking this post, i have a question i have asked before but never got an answer, so my husband and i got Married in the US while i was visiting the US under the VWP, but we did not get Married in in Morocco as none of us is a Muslim, would that cause any problems for us? in order to get Married here one must be religious so we just skipped that part and got Married in the US instead but now i am worried that at the interview they will think it is Strange :S

I don't see how it could. You're simply not religious and didn't want that type of wedding. The biggest thing is having proof of a bonafide marriage. USCIS really doesn't care what type of ceremony was performed, as long as it was legal.