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Israel now plans "boots on the ground", says ground attack chances "very high"

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  1. 1. What comes closest to how you feel about all this?

    • Gooooo Israel!
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    • Gooooo Hamas!
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    • Israel and the West Bank could all get wiped off the map tomorrow and I wouldn't care one bit.
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    • All I want to know is, how does this affect the American War on Terror?
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The main argument presented by Israel's critics can be summarised in a single sentence: Not enough of your children are dying.

I refuse to apologise for that, but I urge you to remember that while our children may not be dying, it is not for Hamas’s lack of trying.

Since the beginning of the last round of fighting, thousands of rockets have been launched at Israeli cities, armed terrorists have attempted to execute mass attacks in villages by the border and hundreds of mortars have been aimed at kindergartens and schools. The only reason these attempts at mass killing are not making an impression is that Hamas has failed. The Israeli Defence Forces’ land and air operation, along with Iron Dome, the anti-missile defence system developed by Israel, prevented us from gaining the world’s sympathy in return for images of mutilated Jewish children. Given a choice between sympathetic news coverage and the lives of our children, I choose life.

Hamas chooses otherwise.

Western eyes and ears consider it a dubious choice, but Hamas never hid its position on the matter: it has no problem with Palestinian children dying, so long as it serves its political objectives.

I know that sounds cynical, but that’s because it really is. Islamic terror is absolutely cynical, it always was and always will be, and its greatest speciality is taking advantage of every democracy’s main weakness – the fact that we sanctify life.

The average Western viewer sees both sides of the conflict on television. One side is dying and the other side insists on continuing with daily life. One can understand them for taking the side of the injured party, and let’s be absolutely clear – to us, the death of any child, Israeli or Palestinian, is a tragedy. On the other hand, that does not release us from answering the question of who is truly to blame for this tragedy?

The power of these images is the reason that Hamas intentionally builds its missile factories and bunkers underneath civilian homes, stores its ammunition in schools and kindergartens (including United Nations schools), launches its rockets surrounded by civilian families, despite knowing beyond any doubt that it will lead to innocent casualties. Hamas rests its conscience – if it even has one – by announcing that the dead children are “Shahids” who will make it to heaven.

I know it sounds crazy, impossible to understand, but I have no way of helping you with that. I have spent my entire life in the Middle East and I still cannot understand how people can sacrifice their children.

It contradicts everything we know of humanity or parenthood and yet it happens.

The absurd result is that Israel does much more to protect Palestinian children than Hamas and yet many Europeans and many Britons accuse us of being responsible for their deaths.

They ignore the fact that Israel is the only country in the history of wars that calls ahead before we fire. Tens of thousands of Palestinians have received phone calls, text messages and leaflets warning residents to vacate combat zones. Israeli air force sorties were cancelled after the planes were in the air due to reports of civilian presence – all in order to prevent innocent casualties.

But Hamas forbade civilians to leave their homes, put them on rocket factory rooftops, forced the children – its own children – to remain in areas that would clearly become harsh door-to-door combat zones.

For Hamas, it is a win-win situation: either the attack is cancelled and it can go on launching missiles at Israel or the attack succeeds and it can go on launching images of dead children at media outlets around the world.

We also have the option of doing nothing. Some British circles expect that of us. They ask us to accept rocket fire from the skies and terrorist tunnels dug beneath our communities.

We will not do that.

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I refuse to apologise for that, but I urge you to remember that while our children may not be dying, it is not for Hamas’s lack of trying.

:rofl: Second sentence in the article. I stopped reading there.

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A page of an Israeli Muslim Arab who supports the state of Israel(there are many of those).

https://www.facebook.com/AnettHaskiaProIsraelActivist

In the Arab world they would have shot them on the spot. In Israel, we send them on their way to a better life.

"The blood of our soldiers is not in vain"—and this type of scenario makes me sick.

Tonight, I'll be taking my kids to the funeral of my son's childhood friend and fellow Golani soldier.

…kids burying kids…

Currently I was interviewed by Swedish radio interviewer turns out she is very pro-Palestine, I was surprised to find that she speaks Arabic fluently, the interview was in Arabic.

The interviewer is very disappointed to hear how much I love Israel and as an Israeli Muslim Arab, I am very proud to live in my country, I am proud of my children for serving in the IDF and my son who still serves in the Golani Brigade and no matter how she tried to prove me wrong, my truth is much more powerful!
She asked what I thought of the suffering of these poor Palestinians citizens that are not fighting with Hamas? I replied "I'm sorry for every child who suffers, and I hurt for the children of the South(of Israel). Unfortunately, children of both nations suffer because of Hamas."
She asked how come my children joined the army and they kill children? "False" I replied, "That's a lie. Beyond the fact that I know my children are not murderers!, I know the practices of those who fight fire with live ammunition on the other side as they hide behind their children as human shields. I feel sorry for any child who was killed but it's hard to blame the world's most moral army which I sent my children for killing children.
"Why is there no equal rights for Arabs and are not hired? I replied, "Some doctors and lawyers, judges, engineers, and businessmen are Arab. Racism exists, like in any country in the world. Among Jews themselves there is racism and we Arabs do not have racism? Say, this guy you're with," I said, pointing to the journalist who brought her to me "he's an Arab, Israeli, with a blue ID and is a journalist, right? then what are you talking about?"
You have no guilt over the Palestinians? "They themselves do not want to live under their rule, they would prefer themselves to live here and not under their regime."
Why did you leave the Arab society? "I did not leave, I walked away from the mentality of the society fixed on saying divorced women are a shame and whores. Ask the people you are with if I'm right," I pointed to the journalist with whom she was. "I just wanted a good, honorable life for my family, my values and this can manifest only in Jewish society., I celebrate with my mother the Muslim holiday Ramadan and me and my brothers have mutual respect.
How do you know that Israeli Arabs support your opinion and are afraid to speak? I read her the Democracy Center survey of Haifa University says that 31% of Arabs are pretty proud and very proud to be Israeli. 68% prefer to live in Israel than every country in the world. And MKs Ahmed Tibi, Hanin Zoabi and Jamal Zahalkha represent only 19% of the Arab population. Here their jaw dropped. It's just a part of a long interview that ended without shaking hands. And I want to summarize in one sentence what I told the interviewer * Long live the State of Israel! * - With Anett Haskia.

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If the Arabs had the capability to wipe out Israel on the battlefield, they would have done so, many years ago.

exactly . If the Arabs surrendered all their arms their would be no more war. If Israel did there would be no more Israel

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01/08/2013: Received Case Number/IIN; DS-3032/I-864 Bill
01/08/2013: DS-3032 Sent
01/18/2013: DS-3032 Accepted; Received IV Bill
01/23/2013: Paid I-864 Bill; Paid IV Bill
02/05/2013: IV Package Sent
02/18/2013: AOS Package Sent
03/22/2013: Case complete
05/06/2013: Interview Scheduled

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05/06/2016: One month late - overnighted form N-400.

06/01/2016: Original Biometrics appointment, had to reschedule due to being away.

07/01/2016: Biometrics Completed.

08/17/2016: Interview scheduled & approved.

09/16/2016: Scheduled oath ceremony.

09/16/2016: THE END - 4 year long process all done!

 

 

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you should have kept going.

I did, and he was right to quit when he did. The same old tired Israeli excuses. Nothing new.

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“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Oh, Boiler. You misunderstand. They're not anti-Semites! They're merely anti-Zionists :)

This is nothing like Kristallnacht. Not at all.

I am not against Jews, people need to be able distinguish between Zionism and Jews, otherwise innocent people far removed from the conflict risk suffering for the sins of Israel. My cousin and her family are not responsible for anything Israel does. It only serves Israel's purpose to have no distinction between Zionism and Judaism. The less people distinguish between the two, the more people end up moving to Israel and the less chance there is for an accommodation being reached.

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Jan 31, 2013 Biometrics appointment letter received

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