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  1. 1. What comes closest to how you feel about all this?

    • Gooooo Israel!
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    • Gooooo Hamas!
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    • Israel and the West Bank could all get wiped off the map tomorrow and I wouldn't care one bit.
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    • All I want to know is, how does this affect the American War on Terror?
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The center of the dining room. A playground. Terrorist tunnels that lead to the heart of communities. Not bases, but the moshavim and kibbutzim. So the next time the world is talking about poverty in Gaza - it should know what the leadership of Gaza has done with hundreds of millions of dollars they received. Invested all, but all their efforts and thought and its workforce - all to kill Israeli civilians.

If only a little bit of this huge human effort was invested in developing Gaza, improving their poor residents situation. If I could I would show some Gaza residents how much those tunnels (and Hgradim. and mortars. Qassams) cost, and next to each picture of a tunnel I'd put a picture of what you can do with this great money: Have built a tunnel to massacre families in Nir Am? You lost a giant amusement park for your children. Paved tunnel to murder holit residents? Missed new hospital. And lost a normal road system. And factories. And livelihood. And tourism. All you lost because Hamas wanted to kill Israelis. And another thing - it's almost all that money, hundreds of millions of dollars, all came from Qatar. "Assistance for the construction of Gaza" is defined. Qatar is an ally of the United States. Qatar also has limited diplomatic relations with Israel. Now they will also help rebuild the Gaza Strip. Were they aware of what they did with their money?

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I wonder how long before Israel will be painting MSF as rabid anti-Semites.


Israel-Gaza conflict: Medical charity official likens job to ‘patching up torture victims in an open-air prison’

Comments by senior Médecins Sans Frontières official expose ethical dilemma of humanitarian work in conflict zones

In an unprecedented criticism of the Israeli siege of Gaza, a senior official in the Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) humanitarian charity has described his organisation’s work among the 1.8 million besieged Palestinian refugees as akin to being “in an open-air prison to patch up prisoners in between their torture sessions”.

Jonathan Whittall, head of humanitarian analysis at MSF, who worked in Libya during the 2011 war, in Bahrain during the uprising of the same year, in Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, South Sudan and Darfur, has bluntly asked his colleagues: “At what point does MSF’s repeated medical action in an unacceptable situation [like Gaza] become complicity with aggression and oppression?

Unlike other medical charities, MSF has always encouraged its staff to speak frankly about the dangers and moral problems they face, and the long and passionate report from Mr Whittall – unlike those of other humanitarian groups, which prefer to silence their staff – is in keeping with MSF’s rules. But its accusations against Israel are sure to arouse fierce Israeli condemnation during a disproportionate war – supposedly fought to prevent Hamas rocket attacks on Israel – in which the Israeli military has killed well over 200 civilians, many of them women and children.

“An entire population is trapped in what is essentially an open-air prison,” Mr Whittall writes. “They can’t leave and only the most limited supplies – essential for basic survival – are allowed to enter. The population of the prison have elected representatives and organised social services.

“Some of the prisoners have organised into armed groups and resist their indefinite detention by firing rockets over the prison wall. However, the prison guards are the ones who have the capacity to launch large-scale and highly destructive attacks on the open-air prison.”

In a comparison which is also certain to infuriate Israel, Mr Whittall, who is based in Beirut, says that the limitations of humanitarian groups in Gaza are not unique. “In 2012,” he writes, “MSF closed its projects in the prisons of Misrata, Libya. Our doctors were outraged to be in a position where we were providing treatment to patients who were being tortured by state authorities. At the time, MSF spoke out strongly: ‘Our role is to provide medical care to war casualties and sick detainees, not repeatedly to treat the same patients between torture sessions’.”

Since 2010, MSF has run a post-operation clinic in Gaza City, where 80 per cent of the patients suffer from severe burns, and provides specialised hand surgery in the Nasser hospital at Khan Younis, and intensive care training to medical and paramedical personnel at both the Nasser and Shifa hospitals.

During conflict, Mr Whittall adds, “the voice of outrage of MSF medical teams is drowned out by the propaganda war that erupts each time a [military] operation such as this takes place and by the concerns that too loud a voice of criticism could cut off the organisation’s surgical teams from being able to reach the Gaza Strip.” Although Mr Whittall does not say so, the same constraints were felt by humanitarian groups when confronted by civilian populations in desperate need of help in the Syrian war.

In another sideswipe at the Israeli military’s actions against Gaza, Mr Whittall remarks that “everyone pays the price for living under siege and for their acts of resistance. Medical workers have been killed and health structures damaged. In such a densely populated environment, the claims of not targeting civilians in air raids are of little comfort. There are always limits to humanitarian action. Humanitarian organisations can treat the wounded. But we can’t open borders to end violence.”

The MSF official also notes that while confronting the “limits of humanitarianism” is a daily reality for MSF field workers, “it is made only more apparent by the duration of the suffering and the international political configuration that allows for the sick political statements and endless violence to continue.” Mr Whittall says that as “the open-air prison of Gaza braces for more air raids and a possible ground operation,” the limits of MSF’s work remain obvious, and he demands that Palestinians should be allowed “to move freely and to seek safety in times of violence, including into Egypt… Civilians and civilian infrastructure – including medical workers, health centres and ambulances – should never be targeted. Humanitarian aid and its workers should be given unhindered access at all times – not as a favour but as a legal responsibility.”

Whittall’s analysis will evoke much sympathy among other humanitarian organisations, and with EU officials who find that their assistance in the Palestinian occupied territories or Gaza is taken for granted – or even abused – by the Israelis. EU humanitarian projects, both in Gaza and the West Bank, have been destroyed by the Israeli army – with afterwards scarcely a breath of criticism from the EU itself, which has no connection with MSF.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/israelgaza-conflict-medical-charity-official-likens-job-to-patching-up-torture-victims-in-an-openair-prison-9613296.html

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I wonder how long before Israel will be painting MSF as rabid anti-Semites.

Nothing like being on the ground to qualify one to label it exactly what it is. One big prison.

Remember way back when we used to care what the Israelis and their mouthpieces said?

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The center of the dining room. A playground. Terrorist tunnels that lead to the heart of communities. Not bases, but the moshavim and kibbutzim. So the next time the world is talking about poverty in Gaza - it should know what the leadership of Gaza has done with hundreds of millions of dollars they received. Invested all, but all their efforts and thought and its workforce - all to kill Israeli civilians.

If only a little bit of this huge human effort was invested in developing Gaza, improving their poor residents situation. If I could I would show some Gaza residents how much those tunnels (and Hgradim. and mortars. Qassams) cost, and next to each picture of a tunnel I'd put a picture of what you can do with this great money: Have built a tunnel to massacre families in Nir Am? You lost a giant amusement park for your children. Paved tunnel to murder holit residents? Missed new hospital. And lost a normal road system. And factories. And livelihood. And tourism. All you lost because Hamas wanted to kill Israelis. And another thing - it's almost all that money, hundreds of millions of dollars, all came from Qatar. "Assistance for the construction of Gaza" is defined. Qatar is an ally of the United States. Qatar also has limited diplomatic relations with Israel. Now they will also help rebuild the Gaza Strip. Were they aware of what they did with their money?

Nobody cares what they do with their money. The Israelis need to get out and leave those people alone.

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Not going to happen till Israel makes sure they don't keep making rockets aimed at Israel and tunnels. Just not going to happen. I am sorry you and others don't like that. wait, no I'm not...I don't care.

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06/01/2016: Original Biometrics appointment, had to reschedule due to being away.

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Not going to happen till Israel makes sure they don't keep making rockets aimed at Israel and tunnels. Just not going to happen. I am sorry you and others don't like that. wait, no I'm not...I don't care.

Yeah, you only care about Israel and its supposed right to murder with impunity, and continue to maintain the world's largest prison.

Mr Whittall writes. “They can’t leave and only the most limited supplies – essential for basic survival – are allowed to enter. The population of the prison have elected representatives and organised social services.

“Some of the prisoners have organised into armed groups and resist their indefinite detention by firing rockets over the prison wall. However, the prison guards are the ones who have the capacity to launch large-scale and highly destructive attacks on the open-air prison.”

Jonathan Whittall, head of humanitarian analysis at MSF

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3 links about Hamas' leaders corruption and how much they care about the pain and suffering of the Palestinians in Gaza.

http://www.jpost.com/Business/Business-Features/The-corruption-at-the-head-of-Hamas-363550

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4543634,00.html

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4548202,00.html


Yeah, you only care about Israel and its supposed right to murder with impunity, and continue to maintain the world's largest prison.

Mr Whittall writes. “They can’t leave and only the most limited supplies – essential for basic survival – are allowed to enter. The population of the prison have elected representatives and organised social services.

“Some of the prisoners have organised into armed groups and resist their indefinite detention by firing rockets over the prison wall. However, the prison guards are the ones who have the capacity to launch large-scale and highly destructive attacks on the open-air prison.”

Jonathan Whittall, head of humanitarian analysis at MSF

Go talk to Hamas about it. They are responsible.

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3 links about Hamas' leaders corruption and how much they care about the pain and suffering of the Palestinians in Gaza.

http://www.jpost.com/Business/Business-Features/The-corruption-at-the-head-of-Hamas-363550

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4543634,00.html

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4548202,00.html

Go talk to Hamas about it. They are responsible.

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And here is in their own words:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=769485323081717

And if you got confused for a moment and thought by their land they mean the 67 borders then no, they mean all of Israel.

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And here is in their own words:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=769485323081717

And if you got confused for a moment and thought by their land they mean the 67 borders then no, they mean all of Israel.

"Propaganda is as powerful as heroin; it surreptitiously dissolves all capacity to think."

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When you put facts infront of people's faces and they still call it propaganda, you know they're hopeless.

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02/05/2013: IV Package Sent
02/18/2013: AOS Package Sent
03/22/2013: Case complete
05/06/2013: Interview Scheduled

06/05/2013: Visa issued!

06/28/2013: VISA RECEIVED

07/09/2013: POE - EWR. Went super fast and easy. 5 minutes of waiting and then just a signature and finger print.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

05/06/2016: One month late - overnighted form N-400.

06/01/2016: Original Biometrics appointment, had to reschedule due to being away.

07/01/2016: Biometrics Completed.

08/17/2016: Interview scheduled & approved.

09/16/2016: Scheduled oath ceremony.

09/16/2016: THE END - 4 year long process all done!

 

 

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