Virginia Police Want To Force A 17 Year-Old Boy To Have An xxxxxx, And Then Take Pictures Of It

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

and in further news of the police state gone out of control.

a 17 year old and a 15 year old. They are kids. it's his GF. Kids experement . Ain't saying it right but dear god, charging the kid with child pornography. Insane

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/07/09/3458159/manassas-erection-pictures-police/?grcc2=bdb4be73edac29c0d5d4ce9d2aa245b2~1405076097021~8e9372b5e0f099519daea57d17d06dc8~dd50d3792337936fe7ce9aa01cb965ad~1405075980000~598~2~0~0~0~-1~-1~-1~13~2~38~H4sIAAAAAAAAAIWRzW7DIAzHnyWHnqZEgDHg3SZN03aY1DeIGJCGfiQo0CvPProedqlU27L_8sfv4rmUtIO3nfhoUea4nNK2HraQ87Buh9arGolIASopNXINXGCdn10dr7lEF5oSjMtWmL4lagkkGo43dbGLzdnmPmzBlbgufYquXBumT-v5fl6F4LJWJFMF6moCgRY_GNjEiJCTt8Gi9lx7prwzzxdqzbGEL__aS6aFIiMRuFagDRCMzl6SjYelzbUgQAJuQIFi0Fi8sj_XJKo7jcN4J42PSC__pPExqcX-s9vP8RxTikvIHeu-7cmW2ASXAyqlSHVc8IEBCMLW7t6pTlIpg_RDDmXw2oOfTHsQWmu9NFrX9qBBsYGjGoSUNR8d722KjIOskz3nUG_2C7k_wkH5AQAA

A 17 year-old Virginia teenager who is under investigation for sending a consensual sext to his 15-year-old girlfriend may be forced to have an erection in front of police as evidence in the case.

The boy, who the Washington Post will not identify for privacy reasons, is being charged with two felonies — one for possession of child pornography (sexts from his girlfriend) and one for manufacturing child pornography (taking video of himself). He faces time in prison, as well as permanent placement on the sex offender registry.

Police have already taken photos of the boy’s genitals as a part of their investigation, his lawyer told the Post. But they want to bring the teen to the hospital and inject him with something that will force an erection, to compare his erect ####### to that in the video found on his phone.

University of Pennsylvania law professor David Rudovsky, who specializes in invasions of privacy by police, doubts that there is legal standing for police to pursue such measures.

“In my view, it’s not [a legal search] for this reason: Normally the police can get a warrant to conduct a search if they have probable cause that it will find evidence they can use in criminal trial,” Rudovsky said. “What the courts have said in a number of situations is that even if there’s some cause to believe that the procedure might lead them to evidence, where it involves a serious intrusion of personal dignity and privacy, you have to balance that with the nature of the intrusion.”

Rudovsky cited specifically a case, Winston v. Lee, in which police sought to extract a bullet from a man’s body to use it as evidence that he had been involved in criminal activity. Ultimately, the Supreme Court ruled that such an invasion was unreasonable, citing the fourth amendment’s guidance on search and seizures.

“It seems to me that this case is similar to that one,” Rudovsky said. Taking pictures of a boy’s erection is “too invasive in terms of his personal dignity… therefore the police need to have good reason, it needs to be a serious case and they need to have need for this evidence. I don’t think they have either.”

He also pointed to several other problematic factors in the case: “If they’re complaining about the child pornography, that’s what they’re incidentally creating. And they’ll want to use it in court,” he said. “Why they’re going after this guy to felony charges also seems like a misapplication of discretion of resources.”

Upon request for comment, the Manassas City police department referred ThinkProgress to the Commonwealth Attorney’s Office, citing the fact that the boy is a juvenile. The Attorney’s Office did not respond to a request for comment by the time of publication.

As technology advances and teens find new ways to express their sexuality, legislators and law enforcement are grappling with how to deal with sexting. At least 20 states have criminalized sexually explicit messages between teens. There is a perception that sexting has dangerous implications for young people. There are actual risks when it is used for cyberbullying, but teens actually overall report positive experiences sexting, and there is no indication that it leads to more “deviant” behavior. Meanwhile, the amount of manipulative sexting is on the decline.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

What's even worse is that the cops wanted to create child pornography in order to determine whether child pornography had been created.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

In America there are so many ways to end up in jail for not having done very much.

And yet the crime rate is sky high

[Jacque67 7,328]

Yuck!

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

What's even worse is that the cops wanted to create child pornography in order to determine whether child pornography had been created.

Good point. This is where the sex offender laws get it wrong. A 17 year old and a 15 year old should not be prosecuted for this kind of behavior. This is something the parents should deal with. The kid will probally end up on a sex offender list. Shame

Depending on their birthdays there maybe a little over a year that separates them.

We had a famous case here in GA, that involved a 17 year old and 15 year old that were separated by only about 14 months. The kid spent several years in prison.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilson_v._State_of_Georgia

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Good point. This is where the sex offender laws get it wrong. A 17 year old and a 15 year old should not be prosecuted for this kind of behavior. This is something the parents should deal with. The kid will probally end up on a sex offender list. Shame

See, every now and then we can actually agree on something.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

See, every now and then we can actually agree on something.

Actually on social issues a good bit. I want freedom for all. Not jsut the causes I agree with

[GandD 5,966]

Actually on social issues a good bit. I want freedom for all. Not jsut the causes I agree with

"Yeah we agree a lot except I'm not a hypocrit like you" is basically what you just said.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

"Yeah we agree a lot except I'm not a hypocrit like you" is basically what you just said.

He would never say such a thing to me. Takes a man to do that.

[GandD 5,966]

He would never say such a thing to me. Takes a man to do that.

I'm working with him on "words mean things"

I think most are accidents.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

"Yeah we agree a lot except I'm not a hypocrit like you" is basically what you just said.

I already got a wife that tries to talk for me . Now I got a VJ pal doing it to?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I already got a wife that tries to talk for me . Now I got a VJ pal doing it to?

Looks like you've got it made.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I'm working with him on "words mean things"

I think most are accidents.

Actually I did mean that. Problem with the far left and far right is the same

The right - Don't touch my guns , by god I want state lead prayer, . However if that state lead prayer is not their flavor...well none of that. They believe in thier rights but not those of Gays, Women who wish to choose etc etc.

The Left same thing in another direction- A woman has a right to choose but I don't have a right to my 2nd amd rights. etc etc

[Peikko 1,575]

Yet, this is not evidence that the US is a police state. What it is evidence of, is that the US has some extremely poor law.

[Sousuke 1,214]

Yet, this is not evidence that the US is a police state. What it is evidence of, is that the US has some extremely poor law.

The obvious correction to these laws is that a minor should be exempt from all child pornography laws. This is an prime example of a law that is prosecuting the very victims it should be protecting. It is extremely illogical that having a photo of your own body is a felony which should have the entire community up in arms. I believe the first of these cases started happening in 2008. Why they are still ruining teens lives through this lunacy 6 years later is beyond me!