Why can't they go back?

[mota bhai 2,675]

http://youtu.be/gcL259Tvvh4?t=24s

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

http://youtu.be/gcL259Tvvh4?t=24s

I agree with her 100%

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcL259Tvvh4&feature=player_detailpage

Edited July 10, 2014 by The Nature Boy

[unsmiley 111]

I agree with her 100%

Me too.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

"I don't care"

Says it all.

[SMOKE 1,426]

she's right

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

She certainly shouts a lot and appears to be quite angry.

I wonder how much thought she's really put into the issue.

[SMOKE 1,426]

enough to understand this isn't a good thing obama has caused.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I'm not sure. Some people are just angry and use issues like immigration as a way to find someone else to blame. Does that woman realise, for instance, that the people on the buses are subject to a legal process that can't be resolved overnight?

We have people like that that here in the UK who bang on about the affect of immigration (they don't distinguish between legal or illegal) by people from Eastern Europe. Despite it being proved fairly conclusively that immigrants don't actually 'steal jobs' or sponge off of benefits (in fact, it's the other way around), the myth still persists.

I think it has more to do with the visual impact of immigration (hearing people in your town/city speaking a different language from you) than any tangible effect.

[Peikko 1,575]

I'm not sure. Some people are just angry and use issues like immigration as a way to find someone else to blame. Does that woman realise, for instance, that the people on the buses are subject to a legal process that can't be resolved overnight?

We have people like that that here in the UK who bang on about the affect of immigration (they don't distinguish between legal or illegal) by people from Eastern Europe. Despite it being proved fairly conclusively that immigrants don't actually 'steal jobs' or sponge off of benefits (in fact, it's the other way around), the myth still persists.

I think it has more to do with the visual impact of immigration (hearing people in your town/city speaking a different language from you) than any tangible effect.

Evidence of a tangible negative effect? Yes, that would be nice but those who 'know' it's true do not need evidence for what they know to be self evident

[mota bhai 2,675]

In which fantasy scenario does the addition of 100 (I made that number up. Use 200 if you prefer, or 20.) minors without documentation or assets or family to a community not adversely affect that community?

It would be like airlifting a bunch of homeless people into the middle of a community. Of course there will be impact. You don't need a study to tell you that.

Edited July 10, 2014 by mota bhai

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

About 10-15 years ago the conversation here was about asylum seekers from kosovo being housed in seaside towns (in local hotels). These weren't illegal immigrants, they were people who had claimed asylum and who couldn't legally be sent back until their case had been reviewed by the courts.

The title of the thread is 'why can't they go back'. That's why.

People get angry about stuff they see in the news and fill in the blanks with their own biases.

Does it have an adverse effect on a community to have immigrants housed there. Probably. But what specifically is the effect?

[mota bhai 2,675]

Does it have an adverse effect on a community to have immigrants housed there. Probably. But what specifically is the effect?

Why do the specifics matter? The experts can convene a group of people and do a study over the course of a decade, submit their findings for peer review and maybe get their study published. What happens to the community in the meanwhile? Real people living real lives. What of them? Do they sit back and allow events they are not happy with to go unchallenged until the study is completed and published?

When someone enters your home, do you call the cops immediately or do you sit down with your family and decide to study the effects before taking action?

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

The effect... Well.. For starters the initial request from the Administration is nearly 50,000 per person coming over the border (3.7 billion/70,000) and that covers only short term.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I just think it's better to remove hysteria from the equation.

[Jacque67 7,328]

Drug test?