The next time you see images of dead women and children, remember who is responsible

[OriZ 3,157]

And that is supposed to matter why? If the Taliban was voted in, would that have made a difference?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

And that is supposed to matter why? If the Taliban was voted in, would that have made a difference?

Well we're back to genocide again aren't we.

[OriZ 3,157]

Only if you call what the US did in Afghanistan Genocide, then yes.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

If you're not drawing any distinction between the Hamas Government and Afghan civilians who support it, what would you call it?

[OriZ 3,157]

I call it hitting a terror organization in self defense...something too many self righteous people and countries have yet to learn HAS to be done if they want the world to survive. But in time, they will learn. They will have no choice but to learn.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

You guys know the drill.

Hamas fires 200 rockets into Israel. Israel fires 5 back, Using return radar azimuth to determine the launch sites. which Hamas made sure to put near some civilians. 5 civilians get killed by the Israeli rockets fired only after 200 fired at them.

World wide Headline-- Children killed in Israeli rocket attack.

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

I'm sure you realise that it's a little more complicated than that. They were voted in were they not? That implies at least some level of support for them among the general public.

Uh, that's a pretty naive view.

Give people the right to vote for the first time (democracy for everyone!), then let people point guns at them, let people tell them to vote Hamas, then say the election proves popular support?

Oh, then never let them vote again.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Uh, that's a pretty naive view.

Give people the right to vote for the first time (democracy for everyone!), then let people point guns at them, let people tell them to vote Hamas, then say the election proves popular support?

Oh, then never let them vote again.

It's less naive than using language like (quoted comment violating TOS - inciting hatred - has been removed - VJ Moderation)

I call it hitting a terror organization in self defense...something too many self righteous people and countries have yet to learn HAS to be done if they want the world to survive. But in time, they will learn. They will have no choice but to learn.

Of course - that's how you justify it. They're animals, they deserve to die, it has to be done. etc. etc. History is full of that sort of thinking.

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[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

It's less naive than using language like (quoted comment violating TOS - inciting hatred - has been removed - VJ Moderation)

I never said such a gross thing.

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[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I never said such a gross thing.

You didn't. The other poster did.

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

You didn't. The other poster did.

Well, the point I want to make is that I don't think the people of Gaza enjoy having Hamas as their governors, but they cannot say anything bad about them, or they will be killed. I just read an article yesterday where a women wouldn't let them use her real name, lest someone "interpret" her statements as against the government and come to get her.

I also read an article about the new "government" of ISIS and the civilian under their domain that they interviewed said "I think ISIS are great rulers!" Do you trust that statement?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Well, the point I want to make is that I don't think the people of Gaza enjoy having Hamas as their governors, but they cannot say anything bad about them, or they will be killed. I just read an article yesterday where a women wouldn't let them use her real name, lest someone "interpret" her statements as against the government and come to get her.

I also read an article about the new "government" of ISIS and the civilian under their domain that they interviewed said "I think ISIS are great rulers!" Do you trust that statement?

I don't doubt that Hamas are hardly the choice for benign government.

[Karee 4,191]

Israel should just annex the west bank and make all of it's inhabitants Israeli citizens. Then hold elections and see what happens. If they're not cool with that, then GTFO of the west bank.

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[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

This is a losing battle.