US Citizens Arrested For Protesting Arrival Of Bus Full Of Illegals

[JohnR! 5,495]

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I guess you had to be there.

Edited July 9, 2014 by JohnR!

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I guess you had to be there.

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[aaron2020 11,651]

After finding out that buses full of illegal immigrants were planned to be dropped off in their town, a group of Murrieta, CA residents spent their holiday attempting to hold down the fort. Their desire was to do what the government has not: take action and stop people from entering illegally.

It was not the first time the residents had acted to deter illegal immigrants from invading their town. Almost as soon as the protest began, law enforcement had already increased their presence in hopes of keeping the situation under control

Turns out that means arrested citizens attempting to stand up for their rights and their country, using their free speech granted by the First Amendment. Meanwhile, those entering our country illegally are being given food and shelter. Makes sense, right?

'Murika!

http://americannews.com/breaking-us-citizens-arrested-for-protesting-arrival-of-bus-full-of-illegals/

Nice spin from the right.

Let's see who was breaking the law.

Protesters who illegally blocked traffic and assaulting cops are going to get arrested for breaking the law.

The "illegals" are asylum seekers. Regardless of how they entered the country, the law allows them to apply for asylum. So, how were they breaking the law when they were being processed under US laws and in the custody of ICE? How were they breaking the law at that point when confronted by the protesters?

The right can not pick and choose which laws they like. If the right does not like the asylum process, the lobby Congress to change the laws.

No one on that bus was breaking any laws. Their illegal presence in the US is a non-issue when they have already turned themselves in to ICE.

[JohnR! 5,495]

That was G. One more slip-up like that and you will be reported.

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She left a few moments ago.

[aaron2020 11,651]

After finding out that buses full of illegal immigrants asylum applicants (asylum applicants are legally allowed to be here to make a case under US laws) were planned to be dropped off in their town, a group of Murrieta, CA residents spent their holiday attempting to hold down the fort as vigilantes who assulted cops. Their desire was to do what the government has not: take action and stop people from entering illegally. How were they stopping people from entering illegally when the law allows them to apply for asylum?

It was not the first time the residents had acted to deter illegal immigrants from “invading” their town because the law allows people who don't like asylum seekers who actually conformed with the law once they applied for asylum . Almost as soon as the protest began, law enforcement had already increased their presence in hopes of keeping the situation under control Imagine that, the cops were doing their jobs. We're the children on the buses going out of control? Who were the cops afraid of that were going to go out of control?

Turns out that means arrested citizens attempting to stand up for their rights and their country, using their free speech granted by the First Amendment. There is also this thing called the 14th Amendment which affords asylum seekers due process. The right can not pick which part of the Constitution it likes and which it doesn't. Meanwhile, those entering our country illegally are being given food and shelter. Makes sense, right? Makes sense that those breaking the law at the blockade were arrested. Those on the bus were in custody and exercising the rights afforded to them under the US Constitution.

'Murika!

http://americannews.com/breaking-us-citizens-arrested-for-protesting-arrival-of-bus-full-of-illegals/

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Asylum seekers Got it

In the future would you all call all bank Robbers withdrawal seekers

[aaron2020 11,651]

Isn't that one helluva note. They provide protection and aid to the criminals and arrest the citizens No. They arrested people who illegally blocked a road, interfere with law enforcement activities, and assaulted law enforcement officers. They were protecting those in their legal custody. That's called following the law.

Bravo

It appears the new procedure is house them, determine if their destination in the US is a valid address . Then they issue them a summons for a deportation hearing 30 days in the future and send them on there jolly way. Yes amazing isn't it

Asylum is not a new procedure. There is this thing called the law that you might have missed. The law allows people to seek asylum. If you don't like it, then lobby Congress to change the law. The 14th Amendment of the US Constitution affords these people Due Process. Which group was interfering with the other's Constitutional rights?

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I have not seen any suggestion that they are Asylum Seekers.

The issue is that none are Mexican and are entering through Mexico.

Potential DACA beneficiaries would seem most descriptive.

[JohnR! 5,495]

I have not seen any suggestion that they are Asylum Seekers.

The issue is that none are Mexican and are entering through Mexico.

Potential DACA beneficiaries would seem most descriptive.

In other words, in the absence of anything concrete one resorts to speculation.

[Boiler 45,486]

In other words, in the absence of anything concrete one resorts to speculation.

I guess that is where the Asylum reference came from, one must not ignore the politics however.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

This is from CNN, a bit more detail.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/02/us/california-immigrant-transfers/

(CNN) -- The national controversy over a surge of Central American immigrants illegally crossing the U.S. border established a new battleground this week in a Southern California small town where angry crowds thwarted detained migrants from entering their community.

In a faceoff Tuesday with three buses carrying the migrants behind screened-off windows, the demonstrators chanted "Go back home!" and "USA" and successfully forced the coaches to leave Murrieta, CNN affiliate KFMB reported.

The buses instead took the 140 or so undocumented immigrants to U.S. processing centers at least 80 miles away, in the San Diego and El Centro areas, federal officials say.

Counter-protesters squared off with the demonstrators, and a shouting match erupted over the nation's immigration system, which recently has been overwhelmed with a tide of Central American minors illegally entering the United States alone or with other children.

A mix of poverty, violence and smugglers' false promises is prompting the Central American inflow.

Unlike undocumented Mexican migrants, who are often immediately deported, the U.S. government detains and processes the Central Americans, who are eventually released and given a month to report to immigration offices. Many never show up and join the nation's 11 million undocumented population, says the National Border Patrol Council, the union representing Border Patrol agents.

The Latin American immigrants rejected by Murrieta protesters were initially held in Texas, where U.S. facilities are so overflowing that detainees are sent to other states for processing.

The government doesn't have the room to shelter the children with adults: there's only one family immigration detention center, in Pennsylvania. To assist the unaccompanied children, President Barack Obama's administration opened shelters last month on three military bases because federal facilities more designed for adults were overrun with minors.

Tuesday's busloads of detained Central American immigrants didn't include any unaccompanied minors, said Murrieta Police Chief Sean Hadden, who put the number of protesters at 125. The children on the buses were apparently in the company of relatives or other adults, said an official with the National Border Patrol Council.

'Deport! Deport!'

The protesters, who shouted "Impeach Obama!" and "Deport! Deport!" confronted the buses a day after the town posted a notice on its website: "Murrieta Opposes Illegal Immigrant Arrival."

"This is a failure to enforce federal law at the federal level," Mayor Alan Long said in a statement Monday about the pending arrival of the 140 immigrants to the U.S. Border Patrol station. "Murrieta continues to object to the transfer of illegal immigrants to the local border patrol office."

Long spoke to CNN's "Anderson Cooper 360" later Wednesday.

"It's not against the immigrants," he said. "They're trying to leave a less desirable place and come to the greatest nation in the world. We can't blame them for that ... No one's protesting that. What we're protesting is the product of a broken system that finally reached the doorstep of our community."

Long said that neither side in the national debate is coming up with a solution: "The problem still is there. The problem is in Washington, D.C."

The local controversy was to continue with a town hall meeting scheduled for 6:30 p.m PT Wednesday. The U.S. government is scheduled to send another group of undocumented immigrants to Murrieta for processing on Friday, the union official for Border Patrol agents said.

Chief Hadden also said he was told to expect 140 immigrants every 72 hours, with the next group scheduled to arrive on Friday, the Fourth of July.

Earlier Wednesday, immigration rights advocates denounced the protesters.

"It is deplorable that people espousing anti-immigrant hate language created unnecessary tension and fear for immigrant mothers and their children," Pedro Rios, a community representative of the San Diego Immigrant Rights Consortium, said in a statement. "Even more concerning is that elected officials in the City of Murrieta instigated this tension. Mothers and their children on these buses have suffered through enough trauma."

At a Murrieta City Council meeting Tuesday night, Long seemed more conciliatory than his statement posted a day earlier on the city's website. Long thanked police and others.

"Please remember these are human beings that are fleeing the violence in their home countries," Long said. "The problem is that they need to come into this country the legal way."

Journey from Texas

The U.S. government earlier flew the 140 Central American immigrants from south Texas to San Diego. Federal agents were busing them to Murrieta for processing at the Border Patrol station when the standoff took place Tuesday, CNN affiliates reported.

After the buses turned around, the 140 immigrants were taken to the U.S. Border Patrol's San Ysidro station in San Diego, said Ron Zermeno of the National Border Patrol Council

On Wednesday, Zermeno told CNN that at least 136 immigrants were fed and screened.

Among the group, 10 children were taken to local hospitals, though it's unclear why, Zermeno said. Seven more children were diagnosed with active scabies, an itchy and highly contagious skin disease. Those children are being kept separate from the others at the San Ysidro station, he said. Seventeen of the immigrants were taken to the Boulevard station in eastern San Diego County, Zermeno said.

The U.S. government is struggling to detain and accommodate an influx of undocumented immigrants, particularly a wave of unaccompanied children from the Central American countries of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras. The U.S. government doesn't have enough beds, food or sanitary facilities.

Authorities estimate 60,000 to 80,000 children without parents will cross the border this year in what the White House has called an "immediate humanitarian crisis."

To help relieve crowded facilities in Texas, undocumented immigrants are now being sent elsewhere to be processed.

But Zermeno contended that processing immigrants, rather than enforcing the borders, is only making the situation worse.

"My concern is they are going to be eating in the same holding cells as someone sitting five feet away using the bathroom," he said.

Intense debate

The furor in Murrieta illustrated the conflict between protecting the borders and ensuring the safety of detained immigrants and children.

Protester Ellen Meeks said the country's identity has eroded with an influx of undocumented immigrants.

"I just wish America would be America again because it's not, and it's not just pointed to the Hispanics," Meeks said. "Everybody needs to go through the legal ways."

Other protesters told CNN affiliate KGTV said they wanted immigrants to follow the legal process to enter the United States.

"Everybody that wants to come to this nation is entitled to, but they should come the right way," Bob Cuccio told the news outlet.

"You bring in all these children and they're going to take over our schools," Bel Reeves added. "What's going to happen to the kids that were born and raised here?"

But immigration rights advocate Enrique Morones likened the migration to a refugee crisis and suggested racial antipathy was motivating protesters.

"If these children were from Canada, we would not be having this interview," Morones said. "The parents have had enough. They are saying, 'If I don't send my child north, they are going to die.'"

Last month, the Obama administration unveiled a plan to spend almost $100 million in aid to Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador to help reintegrate the undocumented migrants whom the United States will deport, and to help keep them in their home countries.

The administration also will set aside $161.5 million this year for the Central American Regional Security Initiative (CARSI) programs in an effort to "help stem migration flows as well as address the root cause of the migration," the White House said.

The Obama administration has accused syndicates in Latin America of waging a deliberate campaign of misinformation about relocating to the United States that has caused people in poor Central American countries and Mexico to risk their lives to cross the U.S. border illegally.

Edited July 9, 2014 by spookyturtle

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

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I C they turn the central American illegals loose but not the Mexicans. The story on the CBS news did not make that distinction. Still it seems absurd. I wonder what small % actually report back for their hearing .

[spookyturtle 9,465]

I C they turn the central American illegals loose but not the Mexicans. The story on the CBS news did not make that distinction. Still it seems absurd. I wonder what small % actually report back for their hearing .

They have been doing this for years. The Mexican's get sent back, the rest are supposed to come back and go to court. I would bet heavily that most don't come back. The article I quoted seems to show that they are not here for asylum, they don't have anywhere to put them since there are so many of them. It paints a somewhat different picture of what was really going on.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

They have been doing this for years. The Mexican's get sent back, the rest are supposed to come back and go to court. I would bet heavily that most don't come back. The article I quoted seems to show that they are not here for asylum, they don't have anywhere to put them since there are so many of them. It paints a somewhat different picture of what was really going on.

They are here because of the dream act nonsense mostly is my opnion. Why else would you cross all of dangerous Mexico

[Boiler 45,486]

Mexicans often say they are not from Mexico, all a game.