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Hi

I married my wife of more than two years, but never applied for a green card. Now my F-1 visa has run out, although I have a valid i-20 for another year, but this means I can't reenter the country if I were to leave without reapplying for an F-1. I've been told that an F-1 is a non-immigrant visa, so if I were to reapply from abroad while married to a USC when have no evidence that we're planning to return to my home country (because I'm not sure what my plans are), I could be applying for an F-1 fraudulently. More to the point, I have a job here on OPT, and I can't risk getting delayed returning to the country if I were to leave for a short period. Because of all these reasons, I feel that applying for a green card is a good option for being able to move freely in and out of the country.

This is the main reason we're thinking about applying for a green card now. But, unfortunately, we've now fallen out with each other, after a little more than two years of marriage, so we're also thinking about divorce. For this reason, we have a number of questions:

1. Is applying for a greencard legitimate in my case?

2. If after applying we go to the interview, how do we deal with the fact that we're seriously thinking about getting divorced? Should we mention it?

3. How will divorce affect us if we want to get married to someone who is not a USC? Will either of us be able to help them adjust status? This is a possibility for both of us, as we're both originally from overseas, although my wife came here about 20 years ago.

4. Would applying for a green card under present circumstances be considered fraudulent in any way? Would we have to state plainly that after two years of marriage, we can't live together anymore? Should we?

My wife is still willing to help me get the green card as long as it doesn't have any negative consequences for her if/when we get divorced.

I would really appreciate any advice you have.

Thanks

Posted

You don't have a viable marriage to AOS.

And I don't think your wife is that stupid to file a I-864 (a huge commitment) for someone she is going to divorce soon.

I know I would not do that. Sorry.

Done with K1, AOS and ROC

Filed: F-1 Visa Country: Greece
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if you are going that road, ask your OPT if they can sponsor. Your employer can sponsor a green card like what i did. its tedious, but as long as the emoloyer gives your document requiremnt in time, you should be ok. H1B pipeline will open on April1, make sure all your papers are ready before that, the cap reaches as early as after 2 days after april1, get lawyer if you go to H1B road. good luck!

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Please do not apply for a green card just because you want an easier time coming in the country after you leave x_x That's not fair to the people who want one to be here so they can live with their loved ones

As above posters have said, please don't keep a marriage going JUST for the immigration benefit it gives. That really is not fair. If your marriage is ending, you can't get a GC based off it.

You would need to get one based off the employment you have here.

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-30th oct 2013: sent I-129f package

-1st nov 2013: package arrived at lockbox

-6th nov 2013: received noa1 email/text

-8th nov 2013: alien registration number changed

-15th nov 2013: noa1 hard copy arrived

-19th nov 2013: noa2!!!!

-17th dec 2013: nvc receive

-23rd dec 2013: consulate receive

-15th jan 2014: medical done

-3rd feb 2014: found out interview date via email

-7th feb 2014: received interview letter

-14th feb 2014: interview APPROVED!!!!!! <3

-22nd feb 2014: visa in hand

-26th feb 2014: POE New York JFK

-26th feb 2014: together <333

K1 journey over! Next stop AOS! married! :D

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-23rd may 2014 send paperwork with USPS

-26th may 2014 usps says delivered!

-2nd june 2014: NOA1 texts received

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-26th june 2014: biometrics appointment

-6th august 2014: EAD card production ordered!!!!

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I really wish you the best. Marrying someone is a big step in life. You put a lot of hopes and energy. It's understandable you want to fix your situation yet when it comes to marriage a paper means nothing and it can bring more problems than the original target. Responsibilities come first and then benefits. You cannot get a benefit when you both are not taking on the huge responsibility marriage carries.

If you want to save your marriage you and your wife could go for counseling, try to work things out and if time proves that you really want to be together then applying for the GC could be an option as long as you can prove that you married for the right reasons.

If you go ahead with her "help" she can easily change her mind. Like everybody is saying it is fraud. You will have the stress. Is it worth it?

Wish you can work things out for the right reasons.

11/17/2011- Sent AOS packet
12/15/2011- Received AOS packet
01/03/2012- Received NOA 1
02/07/2012- Biometrics
03/17/2012- Transfer to Missouri
04/25/2012- Transfer to Vermont
10/23/2012- Transfer to CSC
12/01/2012- AOS interview
12/03/2012- AOS approved- email notice
12/07/2012- Received Conditional GC-2014

09/04/2014- Sent I-751
09/09/2014- NOA1
09/13/2014- NOA2 for Biometrics
10/01/2014- Biometrics app
01/05/2015- ROC approval/card production
01/08/2015- Received letter in the mail of approval
01/09/2015- GC sent by 3-Day Priority Mail
01/10/2015- Received renewed card in the mail

09/04/2015- Eligible to apply for N-400 based on 3 year rule
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Let me clarify, this marriage was NEVER entered into for immigration purposes. My wife and I met and fell in love, and after a fairly long relationship, we decided to get married. Our love has lasted for the duration of the marriage and until a couple of months ago we had almost no problems. Our marriage was entirely bone fide and good faith. We've been living together since before the marriage.

It's only in the last couple of months, well after our two year marriage anniversary that things became rocky. We're trying to work things out, but things are not looking up. We've not taken any final decisions yet, we just think that divorce isn't off the books at this stage. We're both mature adults who think these are issues that need to be taken slowly, so we're thinking about seeing a therapist for a few months before making any major decisions.

If this was a marriage that was in no way started or continued for the sake of a green card, why'd it be considered fraud?

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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~~Post advocating fraud removed one quote returned to view - Condone or instruct, either directly or indirectly, others on how to commit fraudulent or illegal immigration activities in any way, shape, manner or method.~~

Um, no, this is fraud.

OP: You can't apply for a GC if the marriage is ending. That is the very definition of fraud, keeping a marriage going on paper for immigration benefits when it is over in all other ways.

If you want to stay in the US, then look into OPT programs and try to leverage that into getting an H1B. Good luck.

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K-1 & 4 K-2'S
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Interview 03-12-08
Visa received 04-21-08
Entry 05-06-08
Married 06-21-08
AOS X5
Filed 07-08-08
Cards Received01-22-09
Roc X5
Filed 10-17-10
Cards Received02-22-11
Citizenship
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Interview 01-12-12
Oath 06-29-12

Citizenship for older 2 boys

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NOA/fee waiver 03/19/2014

Biometrics 04/15/14

Interview 05/29/14

In line for Oath 06/20/14

Oath 09/19/2014 We are all done! All USC no more USCIS

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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What marriage to talk about here, when OP and his wife is getting divorce?

You are advocating fraud here.

No.

Marriage is not about committing immigration fraud.

Perhaps, you missed the point about having a bona fide marriage to AOS.

How is it a bona fide marriage if they are getting divorced?

Immigration is about laws. Its not about love.

If it's not fraud for him to AOS with his wife during a divorce, what do you think will happen if they disclose the divorce they filed for?

FYI, INS hasn't existed for at least 10 years. It has been USCIS for the last 10 years.

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Met Playing Everquest in 2005
Engaged 9-15-2006
K-1 & 4 K-2'S
Filed 05-09-07
Interview 03-12-08
Visa received 04-21-08
Entry 05-06-08
Married 06-21-08
AOS X5
Filed 07-08-08
Cards Received01-22-09
Roc X5
Filed 10-17-10
Cards Received02-22-11
Citizenship
Filed 10-17-11
Interview 01-12-12
Oath 06-29-12

Citizenship for older 2 boys

Filed 03/08/2014

NOA/fee waiver 03/19/2014

Biometrics 04/15/14

Interview 05/29/14

In line for Oath 06/20/14

Oath 09/19/2014 We are all done! All USC no more USCIS

 

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Filed: F-2A Visa Country: India
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Immigration benefits based on marriage are for bona fide marriages. Since yours is ending, there is no point in applying for green card based on a failed marraige. Your wife might not be aware of it, but the form I-864 she will need to file during the immigration process called affidavit of support is a big responsibility and that puts her on hook for a long long time, to take care of you financially if you need it, even after divorce.

Also, this is the very definition of abusing immigration benefits. Don't do it.

Posted

I don't recommend the permanent residency.

I filed for AOS from H-1B, after being on OPT. It is possible.

Adjustment of Status from H-1B, Family-Based
07/26/2012 - 10/18/2012: 85 Days from Application Received to GC Received.
Removal of Conditions
07/22/2014 - 11/14/2014: 116 Days from Application Received to GC Received.
Naturalization
02/03/2016 - 05/31/2016 : 119 Days from Application Received to Oath Ceremony.

I am a United States citizen!

 
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