Brigitte Gabriel gives FANTASTIC answer to Muslim woman claiming all Muslims are portrayed badly

[mota bhai 2,675]

But the rest of the country went to hell with extremist groups rising up to kick out the foreign invader.

Nearly 2 million people killed in that war. That would have a significant impact on a country of 300,000,000, let alone one with less than 1/20th of that.

Not arguing with that. Simply pointing out that Soviet forces were able to do for Kabul what American forces were never able to. Kabul was stable during the Soviet occupation. And from what I hear from a family member who worked there during the Najibullah years, it was quite nice.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

A 2013 Pew Research Center poll asked Muslims around the world whether attacks on civilians were justified. Globally 72% of Muslims said violence against civilians is never justified, and in the US, 81% of Muslims opposed such violence.

They're out here. And they're doing exactly that. But no one hears it because there's no focus on those folks. There's tons of groups dedicated to denouncing terrorism and teaching Islam the right way, but they're ignored for the radicals.

So what I take away from this is you saying that no one listens to you because you are black, and even more don't listen because you're a muslim. Got it.

I'm sorry, what were you saying again?

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

This place went crazy about the movie also then it was like crickets

About which movie are we talking here? I saw Frozen recently, don't think it was that one....

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

So what I take away from this is you saying that no one listens to you because you are black, and even more don't listen because you're a muslim. Got it.

I'm sorry, what were you saying again?

I believe he was saying that you only see what you want to see.

[JohnR! 5,495]

C. I have no idea idea how to respond to the overwhelming facts you presented, so I will just deflect the issue and move on. Face Palm, Reading comprehension, Missed the point..

IMHO that is somewhat an understatement, and without wanting to be rude, the reason is you're trying to make a point where there isn't one to be made.

You can discuss your opinions and persuasion, but the fact remains Brigitte could not and did not answer the woman's question. She skirted around it and in trying to justify her position, it appears you're doing the same.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

IMHO that is somewhat an understatement, and without wanting to be rude, the reason is you're trying to make a point where there isn't one to be made.

You can discuss your opinions and persuasion, but the fact remains Brigitte could not and did not answer the woman's question. She skirted around it and in trying to justify her position, it appears you're doing the same.

My take away was that it was not the correct forum for the question asked, and had nothing to do with why the panel was convened. Why should they have diverted from the intended purpose to answer a politically-charged, loaded, open-ended question like that?

The truth behind Benghazi has nothing at all to do with why some people label all muslims as bad. Just as the truth behind not liking the current president's actions has nothing to do with being racist (for many).

[JohnR! 5,495]

My take away was that it was not the correct forum for the question asked, and had nothing to do with why the panel was convened. Why should they have diverted from the intended purpose to answer a politically-charged, loaded, open-ended question like that?

The truth behind Benghazi has nothing at all to do with why some people label all muslims as bad. Just as the truth behind not liking the current president's actions has nothing to do with being racist (for many).

That is an interesting point and considering nothing in these TV shows happen without a reason, it may very well be that the woman was planted in the audience just to Brigitte could go on her tirade. She was too quickly to respond. The entire sequence seems to have been rehearsed.

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

That is an interesting point and considering nothing in these TV shows happen without a reason, it may very well be that the woman was planted in the audience just to Brigitte could go on her tirade. She was too quickly to respond. The entire sequence seems to have been rehearsed.

The history of the woman who asked the question has already been mentioned so not a good straw to grasp.. Maybe Brigitte is just well spoken?

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

That is an interesting point and considering nothing in these TV shows happen without a reason, it may very well be that the woman was planted in the audience just to Brigitte could go on her tirade. She was too quickly to respond. The entire sequence seems to have been rehearsed.

I got that impression the first time I watched it, too. (I saw it before it was posted here) It sounded like a well-rehearsed speech. Either that, or she is just as tired of the religious card being thrown around as others are the race card.

[JohnR! 5,495]

The history of the woman who asked the question has already been mentioned so not a good straw to grasp.. Maybe Brigitte is just well spoken?

All the more reason to suspect the woman may have been planted. I doubt Brigitte is well spoken. She sounded too rehearsed. You could have asked her what day of the week it was and her answer would have been the same. A well spoken person does not go on a shootout of words without pause for consideration. It seems as though Brigitte was speaking by rote.

I got that impression the first time I watched it, too. (I saw it before it was posted here) It sounded like a well-rehearsed speech. Either that, or she is just as tired of the religious card being thrown around as others are the race card.

That is a possibility too... Who knows?

Edited July 8, 2014 by JohnR!

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I got that impression the first time I watched it, too. (I saw it before it was posted here) It sounded like a well-rehearsed speech. Either that, or she is just as tired of the religious card being thrown around as others are the race card.

Maybe people shouldn't be so quick to paint all minorities as an issue or all Muslims as terrorists. Then they "card" would go way.

[GandD 5,966]

In modern times when Muslims have become the majority in a population they have passed laws to persecute those of different religions and those of no religion or those that would mock or question their religion. This has not happened in just one country, or two countries, or three countries, or four countries, or five countries, or six countries, or seven countries.. well you get the idea.

We can give smarmy one liners and be glib and PC and pretend it is all the same as every other religion - as long as they don't have a majority or a large minority we will be fine. We've had *seemingly" normal people on the upper forums go apesh*t over supposed blasphemy issues - I remember the embassies being attacked in Egypt and elsewhere and people on this site waiting for visas upset about the movie and not the action of the people reacting to a movie and questioning why making such a movie is legal.. Those people are moving here with those ideas - you laugh and make incorrect analogies but in the not too distant future debates about these laws will come to our doorstep as those that believe that religious beliefs take precedent over other freedoms have greater say.

Terrorists and crazy religious people don't scare me. The throngs of the devout willing to turn away from secular thinking do.. The Christians are bad enough with trying to remove evolution from textbooks and being babies when they can't have the ten commandments splattered everywhere I look - and the tax breaks they get for all the churches.

I appreciate what you're saying as radical Islam is a clear threat. But it has been that way with Christianity before, for like 1000 years. Now its not, what has changed? The bible didn't, so why would people take a less aggressive message from it now? Its all wealth and education man. Islam is just the vessel used for radicalization. The part of the brain that handles religion can accept a lot of things, its really an oddity. How different are Muslims and Amish people? They're both super conservative and have a no compromises look at religion and religious text. The problem is the situation in all the countries you're talking about. They're super poor, uneducated, and under a totalitarian government in many situations. These are the situations that breed squalor on a mass scale. Islam is just a trick used to get everybody united under the same flag.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Maybe people shouldn't be so quick to paint all minorities as an issue or all Muslims as terrorists. Then they "card" would go way.

Apparently Ms Gabriel has a history of foot-in-mouth when it comes to other religions...

http://www.loonwatch.com/2013/12/alabama-delays-approval-of-history-texts-after-anti-muslim-groups-complain-they-promote-jihad/

http://www.loonwatch.com/2012/08/amusing-islamophobia-blog-wars-logans-warning-vs-brigitte-gabriel/

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Apparently Ms Gabriel has a history of foot-in-mouth when it comes to other religions...

http://www.loonwatch.com/2013/12/alabama-delays-approval-of-history-texts-after-anti-muslim-groups-complain-they-promote-jihad/

http://www.loonwatch.com/2012/08/amusing-islamophobia-blog-wars-logans-warning-vs-brigitte-gabriel/

This is why I would never try to argue with someone like her. Her, and those like her, have already made their minds up.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Not arguing with that. Simply pointing out that Soviet forces were able to do for Kabul what American forces were never able to. Kabul was stable during the Soviet occupation. And from what I hear from a family member who worked there during the Najibullah years, it was quite nice.

Yeah Americans and war don't go together well. We approach war with great pussfication. If you are going to war you have to put your foot on the throat and keep it there.

My take away was that it was not the correct forum for the question asked, and had nothing to do with why the panel was convened. Why should they have diverted from the intended purpose to answer a politically-charged, loaded, open-ended question like that?

The truth behind Benghazi has nothing at all to do with why some people label all muslims as bad. Just as the truth behind not liking the current president's actions has nothing to do with being racist (for many).

The supporter of radical Islam, asked a question then made a political statement in support of her rhetorical question. She got owned.

Edited July 8, 2014 by The Nature Boy