Brigitte Gabriel gives FANTASTIC answer to Muslim woman claiming all Muslims are portrayed badly

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So why did a lady who travels in circles of and supports known radical Muslims, feel it necessary to go to a panel on Benghazi and lobby for non-radical Muslims, which she herself is not a good example of . Kind of hurts her own cause...unless she was a plant... LOL

Why is she being viewed as a single voice for all of us? She could be an idiot, does that make me one? Why does Miss Gabriel hold panels with a bunch of people who clearly don't like Muslims, ask where are the Muslims that denounce acts of violence? Wouldn't it make more sense to find these groups and talk with them to find out what's being done?

Why be part of a religion who's main book, commonly referred to as a bible, teaches its followers to kill those who are not like-minded believers? That's the part I don't get, and don't think I could ever get behind enough to say I am "part of that religion"...

Have you read the Old Testement? Or, as I've been told here, that doesn't count.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The Old Testament counts. Modern Christians who aren't militant extremist tend to ignore all the blood and guts / fire and brimstone stuff. It's just not relevant to the overall message.

Of course Muslims don't get given that courtesy. Wonder why.

Edited July 8, 2014 by Hail Ming!

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

Why is she being viewed as a single voice for all of us? She could be an idiot, does that make me one? Why does Miss Gabriel hold panels with a bunch of people who clearly don't like Muslims, ask where are the Muslims that denounce acts of violence? Wouldn't it make more sense to find these groups and talk with them to find out what's being done?

Have you read the Old Testement? Or, as I've been told here, that doesn't count.

Last time I checked, christians don't follow the old testament anymore. That was... OLD. As in before the dispensation of grace.

We also don't burn witches at the stake, nor do we put rat cages on people's faces. It seems some parts of society have moved on, away from the more brutal times/practices.

[JohnR! 5,495]

When I got out of the Infantry I was a Maintenance officer in the army. I did not actively carry atttacks but I did support those who did. So the point is...If their are 330 million radical Islamic, to suggest that each and every one is engaged in direct terrorist attacks or they are not radical is absurd, to assert that they support or agree with those that do is accurate.

G.

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[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Last time I checked, christians don't follow the old testament anymore. That was... OLD. As in before the dispensation of grace.

We also don't burn witches at the stake, nor do we put rat cages on people's faces. It seems some parts of society have moved on, away from the more brutal times/practices.

Some Christians follow it. Extremists...

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Listen to the video. She is saying flat out 180 to 300 million Muslims are dedicated to the destruction of the US. Not support or agree with. She is calling them terrorists. Not supporters or sympathizers, terrorists. That's her words. There is no way in God's green earth there are 300 million Al Qaeda members, if there were, you're looking at WW III.

there are roughly 1 million +/- people in the US Army. Why don't they cause 1 million deaths per year

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Last time I checked, christians don't follow the old testament anymore. That was... OLD. As in before the dispensation of grace.

We also don't burn witches at the stake, nor do we put rat cages on people's faces. It seems some parts of society have moved on, away from the more brutal times/practices.

But it's part of the book right? You asked how I could follow a religion that has that text in it. I could ask you the same thing, but your answer is the same as mine. You base things off your interpretations of the teachings. Same as many other regular Muslims following their faith properly.

there are roughly 1 million +/- people in the US Army. Why don't they cause 1 million deaths per year

Are those 1+ million people focusing on killing Americans? Because I'll wager if 300 million hate filled people wanted to kill us, there'd be more attacks. You seem upset that by your own logic, you find yourself disagreeing with her. 7 folks killed 4000 people in one attack. 300 million would decimate an entire state or more.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

But it's part of the book right? You asked how I could follow a religion that has that text in it. I could ask you the same thing, but your answer is the same as mine. You base things off your interpretations of the teachings. Same as many other regular Muslims following their faith properly.

Are those 1+ million people focusing on killing Americans? Because I'll wager if 300 million hate filled people wanted to kill us, there'd be more attacks. You seem upset that by your own logic, you find yourself disagreeing with her. 7 folks killed 4000 people in one attack. 300 million would decimate an entire state or more.

and those 7 folks could not have done what they did without a good bit of support and funding .

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and those 7 folks could not have done what they did without a good bit of support and funding .

Not true. Pre 9/11 security was a joke. Those dudes hijacked planes with box cutters. How much funding did that take? If they had pilot training, how much did that cost? Not millions of dollars.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Not true. Pre 9/11 security was a joke. Those dudes hijacked planes with box cutters. How much funding did that take? If they had pilot training, how much did that cost? Not millions of dollars.

Expect more deflection...

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[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Not true. Pre 9/11 security was a joke. Those dudes hijacked planes with box cutters. How much funding did that take? If they had pilot training, how much did that cost? Not millions of dollars.

Ok so basically you are saying there are very few radical Muslims in the world. The 911 hijackers were just a handful of militant nuts that acted alone, and that Islam has no problem what so ever with a militant faction ?

Expect more deflection...

LOL so says the poster who has every response that is a comic graphic

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Ok so basically you are saying there are very few radical Muslims in the world. The 911 hijackers were just a handful of militant nuts that acted alone, and that Islam has no problem what so ever with a militant faction ?

LOL so says the poster who has every response that is a comic graphic

Let me say this clearly, so there's no mistake.

911 was carried out by Al Qaeda, which has at it's peak, was about 40,000 strong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda

The number of individuals in the organization who have undergone proper military training, and are capable of commanding insurgent forces, is largely unknown. Documents captured in the raid on bin Laden compound in 2011, show that the core Al-Qaeda membership in 2002 was 170.^[63] In 2006, it was estimated that al-Qaeda had several thousand commanders embedded in 40 different countries.^[64] As of 2009, it was believed that no more than 200–300 members were still active commanders.^[65]

According to the award-winning 2004 BBC documentary The Power of Nightmares, al-Qaeda was so weakly linked together that it was hard to say it existed apart from bin Laden and a small clique of close associates. The lack of any significant numbers of convicted al-Qaeda members, despite a large number of arrests on terrorism charges, was cited by the documentary as a reason to doubt whether a widespread entity that met the description of al-Qaeda existed.^[66]

Insurgent forces

According to Robert Cassidy, al-Qaeda controls two separate forces deployed alongside insurgents in Iraq and Pakistan. The first, numbering in the tens of thousands, was "organized, trained, and equipped as insurgent combat forces" in the Soviet-Afghan war.^[64] It was made up primarily of foreign mujahideen from Saudi Arabia and Yemen. Many went on to fight in Bosnia and Somalia for global jihad. Another group, approximately 10,000 strong, live in Western states and have received rudimentary combat training.^[64]

Other analysts have described al-Qaeda's rank and file as being "predominantly Arab," in its first years of operation, and now also includes "other peoples" as of 2007.^[67] It has been estimated that 62% of al-Qaeda members have university education.^[68]

^{If you add in the supporters, I'd wager it to be in the hundred thousands. A far cry from 300 million.}

^{Two. They had funding, but once again, back then we were so laxed in our security. If every supported gave a dollar, thats 300 million dollars. What's a nuclear war head going for nowadays?}

^{Three: The last two terrorist attacks that killed Americans were Benghazi(4) and Boston (5). We've had more people killed this weekend in Chicago than that. Yet we want to monitor the Islamic threat like a hawk, while ignoring the domestic terrorism that goes on here every single day.}

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Let me say this clearly, so there's no mistake.

911 was carried out by Al Qaeda, which has at it's peak, was about 40,000 strong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda

The number of individuals in the organization who have undergone proper military training, and are capable of commanding insurgent forces, is largely unknown. Documents captured in the raid on bin Laden compound in 2011, show that the core Al-Qaeda membership in 2002 was 170.^[63] In 2006, it was estimated that al-Qaeda had several thousand commanders embedded in 40 different countries.^[64] As of 2009, it was believed that no more than 200–300 members were still active commanders.^[65]

According to the award-winning 2004 BBC documentary The Power of Nightmares, al-Qaeda was so weakly linked together that it was hard to say it existed apart from bin Laden and a small clique of close associates. The lack of any significant numbers of convicted al-Qaeda members, despite a large number of arrests on terrorism charges, was cited by the documentary as a reason to doubt whether a widespread entity that met the description of al-Qaeda existed.^[66]

Insurgent forces

According to Robert Cassidy, al-Qaeda controls two separate forces deployed alongside insurgents in Iraq and Pakistan. The first, numbering in the tens of thousands, was "organized, trained, and equipped as insurgent combat forces" in the Soviet-Afghan war.^[64] It was made up primarily of foreign mujahideen from Saudi Arabia and Yemen. Many went on to fight in Bosnia and Somalia for global jihad. Another group, approximately 10,000 strong, live in Western states and have received rudimentary combat training.^[64]

Other analysts have described al-Qaeda's rank and file as being "predominantly Arab," in its first years of operation, and now also includes "other peoples" as of 2007.^[67] It has been estimated that 62% of al-Qaeda members have university education.^[68]

^{If you add in the supporters, I'd wager it to be in the hundred thousands. A far cry from 300 million.}

^{Two. They had funding, but once again, back then we were so laxed in our security. If every supported gave a dollar, thats 300 million dollars. What's a nuclear war head going for nowadays?}

^{Three: The last two terrorist attacks that killed Americans were Benghazi(4) and Boston (5). We've had more people killed this weekend in Chicago than that. Yet we want to monitor the Islamic threat like a hawk, while ignoring the domestic terrorism that goes on here every single day.}

So what percent of Muslims do you think agree with fundamentalist extreme faction

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So what percent of Muslims do you think agree with fundamentalist extreme faction

I think it's way less than 300 million. Based on this woman, if you're not a radical, you're one step from becoming one. She says praying 5 times a day and reading the Quran= radical muslim. Guess what? She just described my wife's mother, father, 4 sisters, son and every member of her family.

I don't know how many agree with it. I'm more worried about those who do us harm than those who think about it.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

there are roughly 1 million +/- people in the US Army. Why don't they cause 1 million deaths per year

Ahem. 520,000, and moving down to 450,000 as we speak.