SO WHAT CAN BE DONE??

[Jawaree 717]

Thank you, but I have found out that a LPR can petition married children as well as petition parents. I asked a friend who is an LPR and brought her mother over. It took about 3 years, same wait time to become a US citizen. Thanks for your input. I am also confused about the lack of a time frame on the court documents. DOES ANYONE KNOW IF IT MATTERS? Why isn't there a "departure by" date?

NO way ! a LPR can petition a parent. your friend LIED, one can only petition after

naturalization , like I say your bil can apply for visa to just visit loaded with ties to

his country; maybe the departure date was not on the papers because he was a

minor...get the correct info from an atty instead of rumors & others personal beliefs

[Soloenta 2,218]

NO way ! a LPR can petition a parent. your friend LIED, one can only petition after

naturalization , like I say your bil can apply for visa to just visit loaded with ties to

his country; maybe the departure date was not on the papers because he was a

minor...get the correct info from an atty instead of rumors & others personal beliefs

Can she as a US Citizen petition for her or not? Also I remember the OP saying the mother in law was only coming for a short time because she has a ranch and animals she tends to. Now I'm confused.

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

Once she is a USC she can petition the mother, if the mother wants to immigrate and maintain status. If the mother maintains status she can petition her child as the unmarried adult son , she would have to wait until she ( mom ) become a USC if the man marries. By then the obvious ban for overstay should have run it's course. Any other bans, claim to USC, deportation, ?? may be lifetime and there would be no qualifying relative to petition for a hardship waiver,

[aaron2020 11,651]

Can she as a US Citizen petition for her or not? Also I remember the OP saying the mother in law was only coming for a short time because she has a ranch and animals she tends to. Now I'm confused.

No. She can not file anything for her mother-in-law. No one can ever file for an in-law.

If her MIL wants a visitor visa, it doesn't have anything to do with anyone else.

[Cathi 5,746]

You said in your original post that he never did anything illegal while in the us, then you go on to say that he used someone else's name to get employment for fear of being deported. Using someone else's name is illegal, even more so if he used their social security number. Just thought I would bring that to your attention.

Why are you reporting people who are giving you facts just because you think they are negative? No one is judging him, we are just telling you like it is. You need to remember your brother in law came here illegally, ignored a deportation order and then worked illegally with someone else's name ,he broke several laws even if you don't see that. Just like every other person in this forum he is not above the law, even though you seem to think he is and don't even understand that he committed any crimes to begin with.

Plain and simple he has an uphill battle and needs a good immigration attorney if he ever wants to visit the US again. This is a do it yourself forum and this is not a do it yourself case. Best of luck and keep us updated.

Edited July 7, 2014 by mimolicious

[JessJoe 9]

To everyone being ignorant,

MY BROTHER IN LAW, is part of my family. First time EVER I have encountered such disrespect in this forum. WOOOOWW!!! People come for support here, not criticism. HOW DARE YOU!! Why don't you ask first before passing judgement, and then you would learn that he used his OWN middle name and second last name. No one's identity was stolen here. You guys are a bunch of horrible people with sour lives who have no place here. His deportation order was not enforced. It was more of a formality than anything else. He was allowed to stay and not told when he needed to leave.

Thank you to Hypno, A&B, and Boiler for your input and support.

Only positive and helpful replies will be accepted. You will be reported to the moderator for disrespectful and uncalled for comments. Thank you.

I have seen many people who have come for help ganged up on by ignorance and stupidity. This forum helped me so much when I was doing my husband's paper work. Not one disrespectful comment. Now, I am seeing this behavior waaaaaaay to much here. NOT OK. Eventually people will move to another site to get the help, suppport, both emotional and legal, that they need.

Why do this? Why hurt someone else who is only looking for ways to do what they have to do??? Most people come here at 18 and do stupid things. Most americans, born and raised here, from different cultures and backgrounds, also do stupid things and later have to pay for it. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes we all know this. So, no, people don't come on here to behave as substitute parents to scold and tell people off. SUPPORT SUPPORT SUPPORT. Opinions are great,but we do NOT come here to hear your OPINION.

Some time ago I shared our experience in certain forum, as response I have been critized even being accused by someone know it all affirming that supposedly I was pretending to be somebody I wasn't.

Supposedly Visa Journey is to seek advice and/or sharing in immigration issues...but unfortunately there's so much criticism.

Since that sad experience I had I am limiting only in answer shortly some questions from some users.

Good luck and I wish the best to you.

[kzielu 1,149]

Writing anything in this thread is waste of time. Lots of constructive post are for some reason being removed by mods being apparently reported by OP as "negative" just because he doesn't want to hear the truth. Not worth anybody's time (and really surprised by mod actions).

[belinda63 3,038]

Your brother came here illegally as a minor. He had no say in this. He turned 18 while being detained. If he had left when he was released all would probably be good since it would be forgiven as he was a minor. Instead he made a choice to remain in the US illegally (for a number of years) knowing he was not supposed to do so. He made a choice to work illegally. The fact that he used a variant of his name so he wouldn't be caught proves he knew he was doing something illegal. There is still the issue of who's social security number he used to work and did he ever claim to be a US citizen. Now he has to live with the consequences of his choices just as everyone else does.

After some thought I agree he has a 10 year ban and could possibly have a life-time ban. The only people who can file waivers for his ban would be a spouse or fiancé.

Chances of obtaining a tourist visa.....almost zero. Best way to find out is to apply.

This is not meant to be "mean" or an "attack" but rather an evaluation of the facts as you have presented them.

Edited July 7, 2014 by belinda63

[Kathryn41 3,205]

Writing anything in this thread is waste of time. Lots of constructive post are for some reason being removed by mods being apparently reported by OP as "negative" just because he doesn't want to hear the truth. Not worth anybody's time (and really surprised by mod actions).

On the contrary, 2 posts containing abusive language and adding nothing constructive to the discussion were removed. There was no useful advice offered, the posts were merely personal attacks. No other posts have been removed.

-VJ Moderation

[JDGam 6]

Thank you. I am looking into it since the paperwork that we received also stated he could petition his mother. Just to get the process going probably. Thank you for your input.

I refer you to http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/immigrate/types/family/family-preference.html. There is no category for parent of an LPR therefore an LPR cannot petition their parent.

There is no category for married children of an LPR therefore an LPR cannot petition their married children. Also look at the instructions for the I-130 http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-130instr.pdf there is no way for an LPR to petition for parents or married children.

If you want to believe your friend over the Department of State and USCIS feel free to have your spouse file for his mother. They will gladly take his money.

[Boiler 45,449]

As others have said you need to be a USC to sponsor a parent and there is no getting the paperwork going stage. You can certainly start collecting documents but that seems a little premature.

If you are subscribed to this thread then you should be able to go back and see the deleted posts in your e mail.

[JDGam 6]

Thank you for your input. No never claimed to be a USC. A lawyer I spoke to said just to wait a few more years and then apply. The USCIS will let him know what's up. Thanks everyone who had a positive attitude and said positive things (meaning no personal attacks or degrading another human being). Bad news is also always expected on this forum, and should be, depending on the situation. What he did wasnt correct but its done and over with. Now he has to live with the consequences of his actions, as many are currently going through now. Also, I can say personally that the use of the SS number does not really mean anything. I know many people personally who were never reprimanded for it. It seemed to me while going through the process that the US didn't really care. Not saying in any way that that's a good thing, but I do wonder why it is not addressed? Maybe it just doesnt concern them as much. It is never mentioned and I have gone to court as an interpreter many times with people and this point is never brought up no matter how long the person had been working. I think it might be because when taxes are filed, they use the TIN (tax identification number) instead of the SSN they worked with. Just my guess!!! ?

[JDGam 6]

I haven't said that at all. I want to investigate the point farther. Is there something wrong with that? No... dont think so. Again, I thank everyone who has responded for their input. It is greatly appreciated.

(quote containing personal attack has been removed - VJ moderation)

Edited July 7, 2014 by Kathryn41

[JDGam 6]

Thank you!

Your brother came here illegally as a minor. He had no say in this. He turned 18 while being detained. If he had left when he was released all would probably be good since it would be forgiven as he was a minor. Instead he made a choice to remain in the US illegally (for a number of years) knowing he was not supposed to do so. He made a choice to work illegally. The fact that he used a variant of his name so he wouldn't be caught proves he knew he was doing something illegal. There is still the issue of who's social security number he used to work and did he ever claim to be a US citizen. Now he has to live with the consequences of his choices just as everyone else does.

After some thought I agree he has a 10 year ban and could possibly have a life-time ban. The only people who can file waivers for his ban would be a spouse or fiancé.

Chances of obtaining a tourist visa.....almost zero. Best way to find out is to apply.

This is not meant to be "mean" or an "attack" but rather an evaluation of the facts as you have presented them.

[JDGam 6]

Thank you!

Your brother came here illegally as a minor. He had no say in this. He turned 18 while being detained. If he had left when he was released all would probably be good since it would be forgiven as he was a minor. Instead he made a choice to remain in the US illegally (for a number of years) knowing he was not supposed to do so. He made a choice to work illegally. The fact that he used a variant of his name so he wouldn't be caught proves he knew he was doing something illegal. There is still the issue of who's social security number he used to work and did he ever claim to be a US citizen. Now he has to live with the consequences of his choices just as everyone else does.

After some thought I agree he has a 10 year ban and could possibly have a life-time ban. The only people who can file waivers for his ban would be a spouse or fiancé.

Chances of obtaining a tourist visa.....almost zero. Best way to find out is to apply.

This is not meant to be "mean" or an "attack" but rather an evaluation of the facts as you have presented them.

Thank you for your input!

NO way ! a LPR can petition a parent. your friend LIED, one can only petition after

naturalization , like I say your bil can apply for visa to just visit loaded with ties to

his country; maybe the departure date was not on the papers because he was a

minor...get the correct info from an atty instead of rumors & others personal beliefs

Thank you for your input!

NO way ! a LPR can petition a parent. your friend LIED, one can only petition after

naturalization , like I say your bil can apply for visa to just visit loaded with ties to

his country; maybe the departure date was not on the papers because he was a

minor...get the correct info from an atty instead of rumors & others personal beliefs

Thank you for your input!

NO way ! a LPR can petition a parent. your friend LIED, one can only petition after

naturalization , like I say your bil can apply for visa to just visit loaded with ties to

his country; maybe the departure date was not on the papers because he was a

minor...get the correct info from an atty instead of rumors & others personal beliefs

Thank you for your input!

NO way ! a LPR can petition a parent. your friend LIED, one can only petition after

naturalization , like I say your bil can apply for visa to just visit loaded with ties to

his country; maybe the departure date was not on the papers because he was a

minor...get the correct info from an atty instead of rumors & others personal beliefs

Thank you!

First your spouse would have to be a citizen (3 years if you stay married). Then he petitions the mother (1 year). She then petitions the unmarried children (an LPR cannot petition married children) and waits (children under 21) a couple of years or (children over 21) about seven years. She must maintain her residency the entire time and if the children marry they lose the petition. So all in all for children under 21 about 6 years total from now and children over 21 about 11 years from now......if things stay about the same as far as immigration goes.

As to the brother-in-law very unlikely he will obtain a tourist visa. It is unknown if he has a ban (the whole turning 18 while in detention sort of confuses things) but it didn't help he didn't leave when he was supposed to and that he worked without authorization. All he can do is try.