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just curious if anyone here has done ivf? I've been weighing the pros and cons of that or tubal ligation reversal in my head and I"m getting dizzy. One pro for ivf is that it's covered by two of our insurance carriers at my work, whereas the reversal is not. That would save about $6k. :thumbs: The cons though are more moral to me than anything else.

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Many women have IVF. I think you should look at the risks of the reversal and all that it entails versus IVF. One may be safer than the other. I would have to really look at the risks involved each way. Money is always a big factor, but you are talking surgery versus implantation. Pros and cons are important, but look at health factors too. If you have a higher power, or whomever your higher power is, they will guide you in the right direction. Good luck with making that decision. I do know women who have had the IVF, but because it was a last resort for conception. There are those moral issues involved too. And as you said, that is something you think about.

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Most of the ob/gyns I've worked with recommend IVF over tubal ligation reversal...it's much more effective. Their rates of success are very high, with just one or two tries, especially if you're in the younger age range and haven't had fertility problems in the past.

The problem with reversing a tubal ligation is that there will still be scar tissue there in the tubes that makes it less likely that the egg and sperm will meet up and implant in the right place. With IVF, you don't have to worry about that stuff. But it *is* invasive, and you have to take cycles of hormones to harvest your eggs and go for lots of tests, so it's not exactly natural. Then again, surgery to untie your tubes is invasive too.

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just curious if anyone here has done ivf? I've been weighing the pros and cons of that or tubal ligation reversal in my head and I"m getting dizzy. One pro for ivf is that it's covered by two of our insurance carriers at my work, whereas the reversal is not. That would save about $6k. :thumbs: The cons though are more moral to me than anything else.

I hate making decisions!

Thinking about having a baby r we? I can't wait to have a baby! I agree with KW21. I'm sure you will make the best decision with the help of your physicians. I know you were asking for opinions, I have never had to do it. So I dont have a direct statement for that... but good luck with your choice! :thumbs:

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Most of the ob/gyns I've worked with recommend IVF over tubal ligation reversal...it's much more effective. Their rates of success are very high, with just one or two tries, especially if you're in the younger age range and haven't had fertility problems in the past.

The problem with reversing a tubal ligation is that there will still be scar tissue there in the tubes that makes it less likely that the egg and sperm will meet up and implant in the right place. With IVF, you don't have to worry about that stuff. But it *is* invasive, and you have to take cycles of hormones to harvest your eggs and go for lots of tests, so it's not exactly natural. Then again, surgery to untie your tubes is invasive too.

Yeah both procedures are equally invasive, which isn't too invasive when you compare it to other surgeries, so that's not really an issue. Ugh. I guess I just have to pray about it. Yes we definitely want at least one baby insha Allah. That was the deal we made...I promised him that I would try my best and do whatever I could do and he agreed to leave it up to God once we do what we can on our end.

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I have had two friends who underwent IVF and IUI. Neither got pregnant. Another had a reversal with no luck either however... they were both in their late 30's early 40's'

http://p223.ezboard.com/bconceptionstore is a good place for information.

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If IVF is an option, I would do that over reversal. The chances of growing scar tissue or having a tubal pregnancy are increased. With the IVF, from what I learned during my stint with a midwife and working in labor and delivery, your success rate is higher.

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just curious if anyone here has done ivf? I've been weighing the pros and cons of that or tubal ligation reversal in my head and I"m getting dizzy. One pro for ivf is that it's covered by two of our insurance carriers at my work, whereas the reversal is not. That would save about $6k. :thumbs: The cons though are more moral to me than anything else.

I hate making decisions!

I have done IVF, twice, and let me tell you, the reversal is absolutely 100 times more natural than IVF. The medications are horrific, we are talking 3-7 months of hormones, patches, pills, and daily selfgiven injections. And these medications have extremely high risk factors for blood clot, heart problems... not to mention feeling as if you are losing your mind, crying over stupid commercials, swelling tender breasts, bloating, extreme fatigue, uncontrollable weight gain. Then there are those fun tests. Bloodtests at some points 3 times a week combined with transvaginal ultrasounds, SIS, uterine mappings... and all this, to possibly have the retrieval (which is cutting and snipping), and then go to the implantation and the eggs have not even matured and having to cancel the whole thing at the last moment. Then, if it does take, you are looking at the first 12 weeks of pregnancy still taking daily injections in addition to pills, patches, creams etc. I don't know how much your insurance covers either, but by the time you add up all the procedures and meds, IVF is more than 3 times the cost of a reversal, possible 30,000 easily. One more thing, with the reversal, you can always use the turkey baster method should scar tissue make it difficult to conceive. Which involves no meds and is low cost. Good Luck, whatever you choose

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just curious if anyone here has done ivf? I've been weighing the pros and cons of that or tubal ligation reversal in my head and I"m getting dizzy. One pro for ivf is that it's covered by two of our insurance carriers at my work, whereas the reversal is not. That would save about $6k. :thumbs: The cons though are more moral to me than anything else.

I hate making decisions!

I have done IVF, twice, and let me tell you, the reversal is absolutely 100 times more natural than IVF. The medications are horrific, we are talking 3-7 months of hormones, patches, pills, and daily selfgiven injections. And these medications have extremely high risk factors for blood clot, heart problems... not to mention feeling as if you are losing your mind, crying over stupid commercials, swelling tender breasts, bloating, extreme fatigue, uncontrollable weight gain. Then there are those fun tests. Bloodtests at some points 3 times a week combined with transvaginal ultrasounds, SIS, uterine mappings... and all this, to possibly have the retrieval (which is cutting and snipping), and then go to the implantation and the eggs have not even matured and having to cancel the whole thing at the last moment. Then, if it does take, you are looking at the first 12 weeks of pregnancy still taking daily injections in addition to pills, patches, creams etc. I don't know how much your insurance covers either, but by the time you add up all the procedures and meds, IVF is more than 3 times the cost of a reversal, possible 30,000 easily. One more thing, with the reversal, you can always use the turkey baster method should scar tissue make it difficult to conceive. Which involves no meds and is low cost. Good Luck, whatever you choose

Um... Turkey baster? Could you explain this to me? If it's doing what I am thinking, couldn't that be a little painful?

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I'd have to get a new one if that's the case cause the turkey baster I have now doesn't have the right sucking power and this is the fourth one I've had in my life. For some reason I squeeze the top rubber thingy and it LOOKS like I have the juice and I go to put it on the turkey and nada.

Anyways yeah I talked to someone who works here and he said that he did it with his wife and it depleted all of his pharmacy allowance so that during the remainder of the year when he/she needed antibiotics they had to pay out of pocket. I'm leaning towards getting the reversal since the "trying to conceive" process after that will be so much more fun! :blush:

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"Turkey baster"........ :blink: and :wacko:

I had a friend that was actually successful using that method. His son is 7 now.

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"Turkey baster"........ :blink: and :wacko:

I had a friend that was actually successful using that method. His son is 7 now.

Limah (L)(F)

the turkey baster method or the ivf?

12/28/06 - got married :)

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07/07/07 - Received pkt 4

07/22/07 - interview consular never bothered to show up for work.

07/29/07 - interview.

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"Turkey baster"........ :blink: and :wacko:

I had a friend that was actually successful using that method. His son is 7 now.

Limah (L)(F)

the turkey baster method or the ivf?

Ana assif, the turkey baster.

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"Turkey baster"........ :blink: and :wacko:

I had a friend that was actually successful using that method. His son is 7 now.

Limah (L)(F)

the turkey baster method or the ivf?

Ana assif, the turkey baster, with the 1st son and IVF with the second one. He is about to be 9 months. It may look a lil crazy cuz my friend is a guy, so no.. he didnt get pregnant! :lol: But the mother of his sons used both actually.. The mom like girls and he likes guys, so the traditional way wasn't an option for them. Sorry if that was too much info. Just wanted it to make sense..... :blink: Poor kids, but I have to admit they are very well taken care of. Sooooooo.... to each his own, huh?

Boy did i screw up this post!

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Pray with me Forrest! Dear God, make me a bird so I can fly far. Far, far away from here..... Dear God, make me a bird so I can fly far. Far, far away from here!

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