DS 260, what in the ever loving hell?

[jeffkadrliktorr 99]

On those forms i only put the places that i lived for at least 6 months. Never had an issue. Seriously, how are they going to know?

[Rob L 3,811]

The saying is

"

A camel is a horse put together by a committee

"

Only this lovely beast (the process as a whole) was built over several generations in response to threats to this fine nation and its citizens, that may have been real at one point but have,since faded only to be replaced by new challenges that our leaders protect us from, with new paperwork.

What value is added by having two gov't departments ask mostly redundant questions. Why does uscis take five months to process the data that fits on three pieces of paper? Why does immigration require every address since my Love was 16, but access to military secrets...not as much. Do I really feel safer knowing that we ask people if they are a threat to the country with a yes no check box?

Why, what, how, when...these are burning questions for those of us apart from the people and places we love.

But...

I love my wife, and I want to share this wonderful place with her. If I need to fly to Winnipeg and locate every house she lived in during college...I will do so. My love for her is my north star, not these forms, paper clips, copies and envelopes. Someday we will be together.

And if I ever meet the guy/gal who designed that form...i will buy them a beer, and ask them on behalf of you and all of us...what in the ever loving hell??!

Edited June 26, 2014 by Rob L

[Rlelle09 28]

The saying is

"

A camel is a horse put together by a committee

"

Only this lovely beast (the process as a whole) was built over several generations in response to threats to this fine nation and its citizens, that may have been real at one point but have,since faded only to be replaced by new challenges that our leaders protect us from, with new paperwork.

What value is added by having two gov't departments ask mostly redundant questions. Why does uscis take five months to process the data that fits on three pieces of paper? Why does immigration require every address since my Love was 16, but access to military secrets...not as much. Do I really feel safer knowing that we ask people if they are a threat to the country with a yes no check box?

Why, what, how, when...these are burning questions for those of us apart from the people and places we love.

But...

I love my wife, and I want to share this wonderful place with her. If I need to fly to Winnipeg and locate every house she lived in during college...I will do so. My love for her is my north star, not these forms, paper clips, copies and envelopes. Someday we will be together.

And if I ever meet the guy/gal who designed that form...i will buy them a beer, and ask them on behalf of you and all of us...what in the ever loving hell??!

LMAO!!!!!!!!! THIS IS HILARIOUS!!

[Abby&Mario 100]

I understand that the form is what it is and that we're going to have to fill it out. I'm no stranger to bureaucracy. I was mainly interested to see what other people did who faced a similar challenge. Guys, my husband is Colombian and in his mid-30s. I wish NVC understood that a lot of his housing was arranged before people used the internet. (I'm sure many older beneficiaries share this issue.) That's the main problem. So there are no old e-mails from, like, 1997 that he is going to be able to pull up. And we are two plane rides away from Medellín, Colombia and one away Lima, Perú, so no, we cannot go driving around. I was under the impression that the background checks on both the petitioner and beneficiary were done during the USCIS stage, which is why I was surprised to see such a requirement at the NVC stage.

I haven't complained much during this process. We were very fortunate to get our I-130 approved extremely quickly. My first bit of irritation was having to pay U.S. $2500 dollars for his Colombian military records. That's a massive chunk of change, but at least we were able to do it. But this DS 260 stuff is making me feel what so many others have felt from the beginning--frustration. He already has a tourist visa. He's been to the U.S. three times. We have all his police records. I really hope this is the final hurdle.

But back to the matter at hand: So his time in Lima lasted two months, but it was for work and his permanent address was his parents' house in Colombia. So what if we put that address, but they run his info and see that he was in Perú? Is that going to seem off to them? For the people who only put down places where they lived for six months or more, what did you do about the gaps in time? Remembering the exact months and years is another challenge entirely...

[Rlelle09 28]

Is this form ACTUALLY 76 pages long?? Sweet Jesus, pease say no..

[NikLR 13,232]

I understand that the form is what it is and that we're going to have to fill it out. I'm no stranger to bureaucracy. I was mainly interested to see what other people did who faced a similar challenge. Guys, my husband is Colombian and in his mid-30s. I wish NVC understood that a lot of his housing was arranged before people used the internet. (I'm sure many older beneficiaries share this issue.) That's the main problem. So there are no old e-mails from, like, 1997 that he is going to be able to pull up. And we are two plane rides away from Medellín, Colombia and one away Lima, Perú, so no, we cannot go driving around. I was under the impression that the background checks on both the petitioner and beneficiary were done during the USCIS stage, which is why I was surprised to see such a requirement at the NVC stage.

I haven't complained much during this process. We were very fortunate to get our I-130 approved extremely quickly. My first bit of irritation was having to pay U.S. $2500 dollars for his Colombian military records. That's a massive chunk of change, but at least we were able to do it. But this DS 260 stuff is making me feel what so many others have felt from the beginning--frustration. He already has a tourist visa. He's been to the U.S. three times. We have all his police records. I really hope this is the final hurdle.

But back to the matter at hand: So his time in Lima lasted two months, but it was for work and his permanent address was his parents' house in Colombia. So what if we put that address, but they run his info and see that he was in Perú? Is that going to seem off to them? For the people who only put down places where they lived for six months or more, what did you do about the gaps in time? Remembering the exact months and years is another challenge entirely...

If he was only in a place temporarily for work and maintained his permanent address at his parent's house I would not list the temporary accommodations.

If it was for a long period of time, like college housing, then yes, you'd list it, as per the instructions on the DS-260. However something that is just for work and temporary, no you do not. So you likely have FAR less addresses than you think.

Like I said I moved 18 times. 5 times I wrote down my mother's address as it was my mailing address for those periods of time of 1-3 months in length. I think I spent 3 months or more figuring out the addresses (knowing I had to do this while the I-130 was being processed.)

[NikLR 13,232]

Remember you can visit someplace normally for about 6 months and it's considered a vacation or temporary housing. You likely wouldn't get your mail sent there or change your driver's license etc... If you did, that would become your permanent address (I did this in college.) They're not going to be like, why were you working in Peru but your permanent address was Columbia? Answer; because he was working there temporarily, he wasn't living there and it wasn't his home.