Freed

[lostinblue 1,989]

Marvin I did not mean to slander your prophet. What are the facts.

1) This woman will be hanged in 2 years by the courts

2) If she is not and set free the family will kill her out of "honor for Islam"

3) they cannot leave the country.. they were arrested for trying

4)If she cannot leave in the future Islam dictates that she die ... According to the family.

5)Will the child be brought up worshiping the faith that killed her mother? If she decides to be christian .... Is she slave material ?? I hope not but there seems to be many Christians who seem to become slaves in today's Islamic world

Unnecessarily antagonistic comments and one personal attack have been removed)

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[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Marvin I did not mean to slander your prophet. What are the facts.

1) This woman will be hanged in 2 years by the courts

2) If she is not and set free the family will kill her out of "honor for Islam"

3) they cannot leave the country.. they were arrested for trying

4)If she cannot leave in the future Islam dictates that she die ... According to the family.

5)Will the child be brought up worshiping the faith that killed her mother? If she decides to be christian .... Is she slave material ?? I hope not but there seems to be many Christians who seem to become slaves in today's Islamic world

(unnecessarily antagonist comment and personal attack removed- VJ Moderation)

On the bolded:

Who.

Gives.

A.

Toss.

In other words:

It.

Doesn't.

Matter.

What matters is the woman facing the death penalty for breaching a cultural taboo in a 3rd world country.

Update (With big letters so the illiterati can read it).

Sudan death row woman Meriam Ibrahim freed again

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[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

So we're completely off topic now are we? How very VJ.

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

Seems like some power plays between various entities in Sudan.. Sounds like she will be out soon enough. USA up one doctor and one chemical engineer. Sweet.

I'll be with the bigots on this one so feel free to label me: When a religion has true power it oppresses people.

Edited June 24, 2014 by OnMyWayID

[GandD 5,966]

Seems like some power plays between various entities in Sudan.. Sounds like she will be out soon enough. USA up one doctor and one chemical engineer. Sweet.

I'll be with the bigots on this one so feel free to label me: When a religion has true power it oppresses people.

You're only with them if you think only one of them does it.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

a number of posts containing personal attacks, posts quoting personal attacks and posts responding to personal attacks have been removed or edited. An additional number of posts derailing the topic have also been removed.

Please confine your discussion to the posted topic. Respond to the posts and do not make your responses 'personal' about other members. Any further personal attacks, responses to the personal attacks or continued off-topic discussion will be removed. Repeat offenders will be thread-banned.

[MyLittlePony 340]

Wow those people are so hateful.

[Jacque67 7,328]

Yep. Kind of scary how things swing here sometimes. I closed a previous thread due to the venom....

[GandD 5,966]

a number of posts containing personal attacks, posts quoting personal attacks and posts responding to personal attacks have been removed or edited. An additional number of posts derailing the topic have also been removed.

Please confine your discussion to the posted topic. Respond to the posts and do not make your responses 'personal' about other members. Any further personal attacks, responses to the personal attacks or continued off-topic discussion will be removed. Repeat offenders will be thread-banned.

With all due respect, in the case of a thread like this which will ultimately deal with religion. Are we allowed to point out someone's lack of adherence to their own religion as an example of why they may assume that a group of people in another religion may be guilty of the same? When dealing with large generalizing statements who's intent is to cast all followers of one religion in the same light as some of it's more extreme followers, pointing out hypocrisy to discredit a point of view may be necessary. But it could be considered a personal attack.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

That becomes a very tricky tightrope to walk without it becoming a personal attack.

You make that observation that they don't practice what they preach so why should they expect others to . . . They then take umbrage either at the comment - or more likely, the way the comment was phrased - and respond heatedly to what they perceive as a personal attack. Others join in taking sides, sometimes even piling on to gang up on someone, and everything becomes very polarized and the discussion degenerates to a whole mess of 'oh yeah, well you are etc.,. . .!. " and "Yeah, same back to you, you are etc., . . " and before you know it there are pages of posts that no longer discuss the posted topic but are judgmental commentary on other members which are then reported, a moderator (or two) show up, remove the inappropriate comments, post warnings, and in many cases, either thread ban the protagonists or end up closing the thread several pages later due to repeated TOS violations.

If you can find a way of pointing out hypocrisy without making it personal, you are welcome to do that. The problem with trying to discredit a poster who has posted certain commentary, however, is that you are seldom addressing the content of the post itself and are more involved in character assassination than in refuting or providing factual commentary on the subject matter. That is why I post the warning to 'discuss the post, not the poster'.

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[eieio 1,594]

Will the child be brought up worshiping the faith that killed her mother?

As long as the child is not raised Islamic, the child should be allowed to live.

That is why I post the warning to 'discuss the post, not the poster'

I agree. This should be a "sticky"

[Jacque67 7,328]

As long as the child is not raised Islamic, the child should be allowed to live.

Seriously dude...

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

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Will the child be brought up worshiping the faith that killed her mother?

As long as the child is not raised Islamic, the child should be allowed to live.

So you are saying all Islamic children should be killed?

[Jacque67 7,328]

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So you are saying all Islamic children should be killed?

He made a post suggesting this on another thread.

This dude appears masochistic!!

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

He made a post suggesting this on another thread.

This dude appears masochistic!!

Does he? If I am understanding him correctly, he is saying that since Islam proclaims killing all non-believers of Islam, perhaps a first-strike response, eliminating them all, would preclude extermination of the rest of the world.

It's kind of like saying, "Oh, so you say you will kill me and my family soon? Well, lemme just shoot you NOW." Unreasonable? Depends on how far up the third point of contact one's head is, I reckon...