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I have searched and searched, but can't seem to find an answer anywhere to my questions. I am planning to apply for a Fiancee visa for my fiancee in Peru in a year or two from now. But, I have been worried because of some credit card debts and unsecured loans which I had from a previous marriage.The debts and loans now amount to about $45,000. I haven't paid anything on these debts for about a year or two now since i know i can't afford to pay them. I don't plan to pay them off. Since I don't own any property of my own there is nothing my creditors can do to get me to pay. Instead i just get harrassing mail and phone calls from collector agencies which I ignore. I need some advice... Should I be worried about whether or not this debt will cause problems for me when we apply for the visa? Will I be questioned any about the debts or not? I make above the minimum income requirement on the affidavit of support, but just barely. I should make about $20000 annually for the next few years. It concerns me since i never read anything about it on the forums. Can anyone give me some advice?

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Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Colombia
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I have searched and searched, but can't seem to find an answer anywhere to my questions. I am planning to apply for a Fiancee visa for my fiancee in Peru in a year or two from now. But, I have been worried because of some credit card debts and unsecured loans which I had from a previous marriage.The debts and loans now amount to about $45,000. I haven't paid anything on these debts for about a year or two now since i know i can't afford to pay them. I don't plan to pay them off. Since I don't own any property of my own there is nothing my creditors can do to get me to pay. Instead i just get harrassing mail and phone calls from collector agencies which I ignore. I need some advice... Should I be worried about whether or not this debt will cause problems for me when we apply for the visa? Will I be questioned any about the debts or not? I make above the minimum income requirement on the affidavit of support, but just barely. I should make about $20000 annually for the next few years. It concerns me since i never read anything about it on the forums. Can anyone give me some advice?

i dont thinkyour credit score means anything to them.just meeting the guidelines is all they care about.20 g a year might be cutting it close in a year or two

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nvc recieves case 02/13/2007
nvc forwards to embassy 02/15/2007
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interview for k/3-k4 04/18/2007 called embassy for info
packet 4 received 03/14/2007
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Filing your Income Tax returns might be a problem if the debts go into collection. The creditor can put a lein on any refunds you may or may not receive. Since I have never been in this situation, I am not sure collections on your ITR would be annotated or if it would affect your petition.

$20K a year is not much in most states, you might have a tough time meeting the poverty guidelines. On a side note, if you are successful in getting an approved petition and getting your financee to the U.S. it will be difficult to establish any credit to get a car, house...etc if your debts are in collections. Just a thought, have you tried one of the debt consolidation programs? Ken

I have searched and searched, but can't seem to find an answer anywhere to my questions. I am planning to apply for a Fiancee visa for my fiancee in Peru in a year or two from now. But, I have been worried because of some credit card debts and unsecured loans which I had from a previous marriage.The debts and loans now amount to about $45,000. I haven't paid anything on these debts for about a year or two now since i know i can't afford to pay them. I don't plan to pay them off. Since I don't own any property of my own there is nothing my creditors can do to get me to pay. Instead i just get harrassing mail and phone calls from collector agencies which I ignore. I need some advice... Should I be worried about whether or not this debt will cause problems for me when we apply for the visa? Will I be questioned any about the debts or not? I make above the minimum income requirement on the affidavit of support, but just barely. I should make about $20000 annually for the next few years. It concerns me since i never read anything about it on the forums. Can anyone give me some advice?

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Timeline:

22 Jul 06 - Received NOA-1

18 Sep 06 - Received NOA2 in mail

11 Oct 06 - Case MNL783xxx received by Manila Embassy... guess NVC lied

26 Dec 06 - Received Packet 4

18-19 Jan 07 - Medical complete early, scheduled 8 Feb

19 Jan - CFO completed after SLE shots... have to go back for the stamp after visa approval

15 Feb 07 - Interview Approved

24 Feb 07 - Arrive at Honolulu POE

2 Apr 07 - Married, civil ceremony, mailed AOS

17 Apr 07 - Checks cashed for AOS & AP

22 Apr 07 - Filed Expedite for AP

8 May 07 - Biometrics Appt

8 May 07 - Filed complaint with local USCIS for no action on Expedite request

9 May 07 - AP Expedite approved via email

14 May 07 - received AP I-512L documents in the mail

25 Jun 07 - AOS Interview scheduled but cancelled due to deployment and family emergency

29 Nov 07 - Visited local USCIS to reschedule AOS interview

15 Jan 08 - Local USCIS finally forwards reschedule request after formal complaint

8 Feb 08 - Received new Interview date

28 Mar 08 - AOS Interview ..investigation reopened due to incorrect birthdate that was identified 05/07

16 Apr 08 - CRIS Notice of GC approval and welcome notice via email

25 Apr 08 - GC received finally!

15 Jan 10 - Mailed Lifting of Conditions Package

19 Jan 10 - Package received at VT USCIS

22 Jan 10 - Checked cashed by USCIS

26 Jan 10 - Received NOA dated 20 Jan 10

29 Jan 10 - Received NOA for Biometrics

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Did anyone which had their visa approved have credit card debts or loans when they applied for a fiancee visa? If you did can you please tell me how much you owed? How many times was the subject brought up during the process? Did they say anything about it? Do you think 20000 dollars is enough to bring my fiancee here in about 3 years from now? Is there anything which they deduct from your gross earnings when calculating if you met the poverty guideline? What is the current poverty guideline which I would need to meet this year?

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Canada
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They don't care if you have debt .. you have to meet the poverty guidelines when it comes time to be the sponsor .. if you don't meet them alone you can have a co-sponsor to help.

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-864p.pdf

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April 13/07 Approval notice sent

April 16/07 Green card in hand

~My Sons AOS (K2) Age 11

Jan 19/07 NOA1

Feb 05/07 Transfered to CSC

Feb 08/07 Biometrics

Mar 30/07 Welcome notice sent

April 10/07 Card production ordered

April 13/07 Approval notice sent

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Feb 07/07 RFE Snail mail

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Mexico
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They don't care if you have debt .. you have to meet the poverty guidelines when it comes time to be the sponsor .. if you don't meet them alone you can have a co-sponsor to help.

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-864p.pdf

EXACTLY. Your debts are not their concern -- as long as you can prove financial support, either on your own with a co-sponsor.

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Its encouraging to me to hear others which have become married to their foreign fiancee's tell me that the debts and loans won't matter in the process. Thankyou. Can anyone give me some more specific information about a situation similar to mine that worked out fine? Did anyone else apply for a fiancee visa with a similar amount of debt and a similar income? How much did you owe? Did they say anything about it? What do you think about my situation, will it be difficult?

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Mexico
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Its encouraging to me to hear others which have become married to their foreign fiancee's tell me that the debts and loans won't matter in the process. Thankyou. Can anyone give me some more specific information about a situation similar to mine that worked out fine? Did anyone else apply for a fiancee visa with a similar amount of debt and a similar income? How much did you owe? Did they say anything about it? What do you think about my situation, will it be difficult?

Obviously you're concerned - but try to focus on the facts for a second. There is NO situation in which either USCIS, the NVC, the consulate or DHS will question or investigate your personal debt situation. It does NOT come up for discussion.

You have a financial obligation when you bring a fiance from another country. Since many people cannot provide support on their own due to their own financial difficulties, the US government allows co-sponsors. This fact is more proof that your financial situation including your debt, is not of any interest to them.

Really, no need to worry. They do not care. It will not come up.

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Its encouraging to me to hear others which have become married to their foreign fiancee's tell me that the debts and loans won't matter in the process. Thankyou. Can anyone give me some more specific information about a situation similar to mine that worked out fine? Did anyone else apply for a fiancee visa with a similar amount of debt and a similar income? How much did you owe? Did they say anything about it? What do you think about my situation, will it be difficult?

I think I'm right in saying they won't ever need to know about your debt - you won't need to give any evidence which would show your debt, and they're just interested in your income, and that it meets the requirement of being 125% above the poverty level for your household size. You just need proof of income - they won't be looking into your outgoings at all. So the fact that you owe X amount won't even come up - it's what you have coming in that counts.

2005 - We met

2006 - Filed I-129F

2007 - K-1 issued, moved to US, completed AOS (a busy year, immigration-wise)

2009 - Conditions lifted

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warmthoughts,

Your debts may not matter directly, but your financial and overall life situation may cause you some problems in ways that may not become apparent until they occur. If nothing else, financial problems are a leading cause of divorce.

Your asked your question strictly with regard to immigration, but immigration does not occur in a vacuum. In this case immigration is based on marriage an you will be taking on a financial obligation that you can ill afford and that will not go away in the event of a divorce.

Yodrak

Its encouraging to me to hear others which have become married to their foreign fiancee's tell me that the debts and loans won't matter in the process. Thankyou. Can anyone give me some more specific information about a situation similar to mine that worked out fine? Did anyone else apply for a fiancee visa with a similar amount of debt and a similar income? How much did you owe? Did they say anything about it? What do you think about my situation, will it be difficult?
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Filed: Country: Philippines
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When I got married, I had over $10,000 of credit card debt. It did not cause me any problems with the K1 or AOS for my wife. It's now paid off and we have a good balance in our savings.

That said, I agree with Yodrak - financial issues can put a big strain on a marriage and often lead to divorce. I think being open and honest with your fiancee about this is more important than any potential issues you might face with USCIS. I talked to my wife about my situation when we started talking about getting engaged. I didn't want to burden her with my debt and I told her I was willing to wait until it was paid off. She said she would rather come as soon as she could. When she arrived, she knew what she was getting into, so there were no surprises.

08/28/2004 Engaged

09/22/2004 I-129F submitted

10/01/2004 I-129F Approved

12/15/2004 K1 Issued

12/30/2004 Arrival in US

02/19/2005 Married

01/30/2006 Conditional Green Card Approved

01/15/2008 Conditions Removed and 10 Year Card Issued

03/28/2009 N-400 mailed to Lockbox

07/17/2009 Interview Denver USCIS office RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL

08/28/2009 Naturalization Ceremony - US District Court - Denver, Colorado[/b][/u]

09/04/2009 Applied for passport

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09/24/2009 Passport received

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Morocco
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Warmthoughts,

Not to sound rude, but a number of people told you that your debt doesnt have an impact on your visa process. We all have some type of debt. You just have to make sure you are above the proverty line as perscribed bu USCIS.

THE GOVERNMENT DOESNT CARE THAT YOU HAVE DEBT FOR THE VISA PROCESS.

If the Gov't cared most of us would not have out love ones with us now.

Its encouraging to me to hear others which have become married to their foreign fiancee's tell me that the debts and loans won't matter in the process. Thankyou. Can anyone give me some more specific information about a situation similar to mine that worked out fine? Did anyone else apply for a fiancee visa with a similar amount of debt and a similar income? How much did you owe? Did they say anything about it? What do you think about my situation, will it be difficult?
Edited by frndly1

Traveled to Morocco on Aug 3rd, 2005

Got Engaged on Aug 16th, 2005

Left Morocco on Aug 19th, 2005

08-29-05 Filed I129F

01-09-06 Interview Date (9am) We were not approved today, I guess we got a 221g of the damn S. Korea Police Certificate that Casablanca said we didn't need.

03/03/06 Turn in Passport at 9am

03/15/06 Visa Issued

03/31/06 Enter USA via JFK

05/15/06 Wedding for Visa

06/10/06 Mailed AOS papers

07/06/06 Biometerics Apt

07/15/06 My offical wedding day....I know .....:-)

07/10/06 Touched

08/25/06 EAD Approvel

09/01/06 EAD in Hand

09/26/06 AOS Interview (Recommend for Approval)

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Hong Kong
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Your creditors may give you a 1099 for forgiveness of debt if they write off your credit card bills. On the plus side that would make your income go up. On the down side $40,000 of extra income would leave you with a BIG tax bill. I don't know if tax debt would be an issue but I would suspect that it may.

mailed k1 October 10,2006

noa1 October 23,2006 California Service center

touched October 25,2006

noa1 arrives in the mail October 31,2006

noa2 January 17,2007(no touches)

packet 3 recieved February 10,2007

Medical February 22,2007

packet 3 sent March 7,2007

packet 4 mailed March13, 2007

seems to be lost in the mail (it was)

packet 4 recieved March 24,2007(second one they sent)

interview April 16,2007

VISA recieved April 23,2007

arrived in Fl-May 24,2007

Married June 28, 2007

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Your creditors may give you a 1099 for forgiveness of debt if they write off your credit card bills. On the plus side that would make your income go up. On the down side $40,000 of extra income would leave you with a BIG tax bill. I don't know if tax debt would be an issue but I would suspect that it may.

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