Ukraine Kiev embassy K1 members

[zqt3344 21]

Hi,

I am a newbie. Just found this sight over weekend, I sure wish I had known about it 4 months ago! Great information and right on. ANYWAY....

1) Does anyone know where we can go on here to discuss or visit with other Ukraine K1 members?

2) Anyone had experience with exactly what Kiev embassy requires from fiance for beneficiary's interview?

a) reason I ask is I have read Kiev embassy website several times and their packet information, thus as usual with these federal govt entities, the right hand does not know what they left hand is doing, I see conflicting statements as to what they require or expect or need from Petitioner.

3) Anyone had experience with I134 form and other documents or supporting information, AND in what format or just exactly how or what is the Kiev embassy looking for or expecting, I am learning this all changes from one service center or from one government office to another as I go along this long lonely highway for a K1! From what I can tell each step of this process has new little twists and every office has it's own way of doing things as do the embassies from what I hear.

Anyway. Please help if you can or have time.

Thanks

ZQT3344

[payxibka 10,045]

Hi,

I am a newbie. Just found this sight over weekend, I sure wish I had known about it 4 months ago! Great information and right on. ANYWAY....

1) Does anyone know where we can go on here to discuss or visit with other Ukraine K1 members?

2) Anyone had experience with exactly what Kiev embassy requires from fiance for beneficiary's interview?

a) reason I ask is I have read Kiev embassy website several times and their packet information, thus as usual with these federal govt entities, the right hand does not know what they left hand is doing, I see conflicting statements as to what they require or expect or need from Petitioner.

3) Anyone had experience with I134 form and other documents or supporting information, AND in what format or just exactly how or what is the Kiev embassy looking for or expecting, I am learning this all changes from one service center or from one government office to another as I go along this long lonely highway for a K1! From what I can tell each step of this process has new little twists and every office has it's own way of doing things as do the embassies from what I hear.

Anyway. Please help if you can or have time.

Thanks

ZQT3344

1) We can chat right here....

2) Where are the conflicting statements

3) Did you know the I-134 is optional?

[gearheadgeek 1]

2) Anyone had experience with exactly what Kiev embassy requires from fiance for beneficiary's interview?

a) reason I ask is I have read Kiev embassy website several times and their packet information, thus as usual with these federal govt entities, the right hand does not know what they left hand is doing, I see conflicting statements as to what they require or expect or need from Petitioner.

3) Anyone had experience with I134 form and other documents or supporting information, AND in what format or just exactly how or what is the Kiev embassy looking for or expecting, I am learning this all changes from one service center or from one government office to another as I go along this long lonely highway for a K1! From what I can tell each step of this process has new little twists and every office has it's own way of doing things as do the embassies from what I

I noticed the contradictions also. I emailed them and asked what was correct, pointing out the contradictions. I got a reply that said what to send, so I did, and they accepted it. Sorry, but I don't remember the details - it was several months ago.

Edited January 17, 2007 by gearheadgeek

[payxibka 10,045]

Don't hold back that info.... please share.....

[zqt3344 21]

Don't hold back that info.... please share.....

FWAGUY, what do you mean? Your girlfriend should be able to get her police certificate for Ukraine at her local oblast government office(like county courthouse/police station), but she better take money for bribe/tip or know someone, cause things move mighty slow in Ukraine and with lots of mistakes sometimes on documents, and honestly I have found from my own personal experiences in Ukraine lot of people expect to be bribed/tipped or paid . ALSO, not 100% certain, but I think the police certificate is only good for like 10 days or so before Kiev interview so better have your girlfriend check on that, I will ask mine and let you know, but pretty sure of that fact.

I notice embassy at Kiev is not real thorough with email replies, just answer what they want to and let you scratch your head and say but you did not answer the entire question.

Too bad I would think they would tell you what you needed to do on Police Certificate.

So is your fiancee from Ukraine originally? I mean would not think that would have anything to do with police certificate. Sorry but could you give me more detailed info about this and I will check with mine, she said she had it under control and knew what to do to get her police certificate or record no problem. Be glad to help you.

[payxibka 10,045]

FWAGUY, what do you mean? Your girlfriend should be able to get her police certificate for Ukraine at her local oblast government office(like county courthouse/police station), but she better take money for bribe/tip or know someone, cause things move mighty slow in Ukraine and with lots of mistakes sometimes on documents, and honestly I have found from my own personal experiences in Ukraine lot of people expect to be bribed/tipped or paid . ALSO, not 100% certain, but I think the police certificate is only good for like 10 days or so before Kiev interview so better have your girlfriend check on that, I will ask mine and let you know, but pretty sure of that fact.

I notice embassy at Kiev is not real thorough with email replies, just answer what they want to and let you scratch your head and say but you did not answer the entire question.

Too bad I would think they would tell you what you needed to do on Police Certificate.

So is your fiancee from Ukraine originally? I mean would not think that would have anything to do with police certificate. Sorry but could you give me more detailed info about this and I will check with mine, she said she had it under control and knew what to do to get her police certificate or record no problem. Be glad to help you.

My fiancee is originally from Odessa and currently lives in Kherson. I am not worried about the PC's from Ukraine. I am worried about her PC from her time spent in Moldova when she attended university. She would have to travel to Chisinau to get the PC because they are not available locally or from the Moldovian Consulate in Kiev. Police certificates are valid for longer than 10 days (Maybe 6 mos.?)but the consulate HOWEVER wants them from a recent time.

[zqt3344 21]

2) Anyone had experience with exactly what Kiev embassy requires from fiance for beneficiary's interview?

a) reason I ask is I have read Kiev embassy website several times and their packet information, thus as usual with these federal govt entities, the right hand does not know what they left hand is doing, I see conflicting statements as to what they require or expect or need from Petitioner.

3) Anyone had experience with I134 form and other documents or supporting information, AND in what format or just exactly how or what is the Kiev embassy looking for or expecting, I am learning this all changes from one service center or from one government office to another as I go along this long lonely highway for a K1! From what I can tell each step of this process has new little twists and every office has it's own way of doing things as do the embassies from what I

I noticed the contradictions also. I emailed them and asked what was correct, pointing out the contradictions. I got a reply that said what to send, so I did, and they accepted it. Sorry, but I don't remember the details - it was several months ago.

WELL I sent like 5 emails asking them, may I send scanned email copies of my I-134F and 2005 Federal tax return. Then I asked them was there anything else that they required of me the petitioner and just how did they prefer it or in what format for their embassy since their were two places on website that said they did not require originals, or I134F, but copies of supporting financial documents either faxed or scanned email. YET when you open up the packet 3 and 4 then look at the K1 checklist of items it says copies and/or originals so it is not very clear. But last email I got from them said all they needed from me was scanned email copy of I134F notarized and most recent 2005 federal tax return, nothing about letter from employer, bank statements or W2 or paystubs, which to me it is really ridiculous to require us to do all this, why can't they just pull information from Social Security office or IRS, they all are tied in on data bases, I am sure they will cross check them anyway once in USA filing I-864, I mean it is too easy not to for them and would elminate extra paperwork from us and for them and stop any fraud since it is what it is when they pull tax return or social security records direct from source, of course that is too simple and logical. Lord forbid, why they might use that in future to create another requirement thus another source of income fee to generate. So GearheadGeek how was your experience with I129F and kiev interview? Take long to get approved or fiancee interview?

[payxibka 10,045]

When I was in Ukraine last week I provided my fiancee with my I-134 (and other financial data except my 2006 return) but gave her explicit instructions since they say it is optional, to keep it in her back pocket and not to give it to the consulate unless requested. It would have been nice to know I could have scanned it then but since it is a "signed and notarized" document, I assumed it needed to be original. I will scan my 2006 return when ready so she has it when the interview happens.

Edited January 17, 2007 by fwaguy

[zqt3344 21]

FWAGUY, what do you mean? Your girlfriend should be able to get her police certificate for Ukraine at her local oblast government office(like county courthouse/police station), but she better take money for bribe/tip or know someone, cause things move mighty slow in Ukraine and with lots of mistakes sometimes on documents, and honestly I have found from my own personal experiences in Ukraine lot of people expect to be bribed/tipped or paid . ALSO, not 100% certain, but I think the police certificate is only good for like 10 days or so before Kiev interview so better have your girlfriend check on that, I will ask mine and let you know, but pretty sure of that fact.

I notice embassy at Kiev is not real thorough with email replies, just answer what they want to and let you scratch your head and say but you did not answer the entire question.

Too bad I would think they would tell you what you needed to do on Police Certificate.

So is your fiancee from Ukraine originally? I mean would not think that would have anything to do with police certificate. Sorry but could you give me more detailed info about this and I will check with mine, she said she had it under control and knew what to do to get her police certificate or record no problem. Be glad to help you.

My fiancee is originally from Odessa and currently lives in Kherson. I am not worried about the PC's from Ukraine. I am worried about her PC from her time spent in Moldova when she attended university. She would have to travel to Chisinau to get the PC because they are not available locally or from the Moldovian Consulate in Kiev. Police certificates are valid for longer than 10 days (Maybe 6 mos.?)but the consulate HOWEVER wants them from a recent time.

Wonder, does it matter if she needs that PC in Romania, I mean she was only student there and not citizen. That just sounds like tough situation, are you sure she has to do that, I guess you and your girlfriend already checked on that though, I mean I do not know on this situation. ARE sure she has to have PC from Romania? Would they even keep a PC on her being a student? AND hey like I said if so, take extra money for tips.

I am 99% sure it is 10 days maybe 20/30 for valid Ukraine PC but I know it is not 6 months, I mean they could commit a lot of crime in that 6 month time period before interview at embassy, joking of course with you, but that is how those feds think at embassy so get used to it.

[payxibka 10,045]

Wonder, does it matter if she needs that PC in Romania, I mean she was only student there and not citizen. That just sounds like tough situation, are you sure she has to do that, I guess you and your girlfriend already checked on that though, I mean I do not know on this situation. ARE sure she has to have PC from Romania? Would they even keep a PC on her being a student? AND hey like I said if so, take extra money for tips.

I am 99% sure it is 10 days maybe 20/30 for valid Ukraine PC but I know it is not 6 months, I mean they could commit a lot of crime in that 6 month time period before interview at embassy, joking of course with you, but that is how those feds think at embassy so get used to it.

Your post made me think.... I re-checked the State department site that refers to availability of PC's and the information from Moldova says that they will prepare a PC for anyone who wishes to emigrate from Moldova. Since she is not emigrating from Moldova then we might be in the clear. I got a couple of places to check to verify..... I guess I have nothing better to do than hopefully save her from an unneeded road trip....

[zqt3344 21]

When I was in Ukraine last week I provided my fiancee with my I-134 (and other financial data except my 2006 return) but gave her explicit instructions since they say it is optional, to keep it in her back pocket and not to give it to the consulate unless requested. It would have been nice to know I could have scanned it then but since it is a "signed and notarized" document, I assumed it needed to be original. I will scan my 2006 return when ready so she has it when the interview happens.

So how many times you been to the Ukraine? stay long this time, cold as hell this time of year and only daylight for like 5 or 6 hours, depressing place in fall or winter I think. So what all did you give your fiancee for her interview? I have mine(ours) coming up later, just got approved last monday for I129F with NOA2 from email at California, weird deal - where I live have to send in to Nebraska, but they then forward on to California, why I have no idea, but they did and it took extra 20 days. I would have just mailed it direct to California if I had known. As you will see nothing makes sense with this whole process it is illogical and well we are dealing with the feds. What can I say. Thus I have been trying to figure out what exactly I need to send to my fiancee for her interview, and in what format. I do not believe in sending all that extra stuff they do not require or ask for, it is overkill and it just makes them want more or ask more questions or get confused I have found. I agree with you, I think I will tell mine the same thing, here is my 2005 Federal return but do not give it up unless they demand it, otherwise I am going to send her the other stuff to use, I am not big on them having my tax returns floating around in foreign country to be honest. If you have not noticed there is a lot of identity theft in Ukraine of western folks, I have talked to many about this and they think it is ok, why you ask and they say because we can afford it to lose! AHAH, good old Ukraine. You been there many times? Oh and what supporting documents did you give your fiancee to take to interview?

[zqt3344 21]

Wonder, does it matter if she needs that PC in Romania, I mean she was only student there and not citizen. That just sounds like tough situation, are you sure she has to do that, I guess you and your girlfriend already checked on that though, I mean I do not know on this situation. ARE sure she has to have PC from Romania? Would they even keep a PC on her being a student? AND hey like I said if so, take extra money for tips.

I am 99% sure it is 10 days maybe 20/30 for valid Ukraine PC but I know it is not 6 months, I mean they could commit a lot of crime in that 6 month time period before interview at embassy, joking of course with you, but that is how those feds think at embassy so get used to it.

Your post made me think.... I re-checked the State department site that refers to availability of PC's and the information from Moldova says that they will prepare a PC for anyone who wishes to emigrate from Moldova. Since she is not emigrating from Moldova then we might be in the clear. I got a couple of places to check to verify..... I guess I have nothing better to do than hopefully save her from an unneeded road trip....

JUST get Ukraine PC, I mean how will embassy know the difference? They will have no clue. Besides she was student and still Ukraine citizen. Also remember to get the PC translated to English or they will not accept it. They will want both Ukrainian version of PC original and the translated version and I do believe they will want to keep that original Ukrainian PC.

[zqt3344 21]

Wonder, does it matter if she needs that PC in Romania, I mean she was only student there and not citizen. That just sounds like tough situation, are you sure she has to do that, I guess you and your girlfriend already checked on that though, I mean I do not know on this situation. ARE sure she has to have PC from Romania? Would they even keep a PC on her being a student? AND hey like I said if so, take extra money for tips.

I am 99% sure it is 10 days maybe 20/30 for valid Ukraine PC but I know it is not 6 months, I mean they could commit a lot of crime in that 6 month time period before interview at embassy, joking of course with you, but that is how those feds think at embassy so get used to it.

Your post made me think.... I re-checked the State department site that refers to availability of PC's and the information from Moldova says that they will prepare a PC for anyone who wishes to emigrate from Moldova. Since she is not emigrating from Moldova then we might be in the clear. I got a couple of places to check to verify..... I guess I have nothing better to do than hopefully save her from an unneeded road trip....

THAT would be good idea, other wise she will be not a happy camper riding a bus or train to Romania and back! Been there done that. She will love you to death if you find out and save her a trip. I do not think you need Romania PC, I mean go with the Ukraine PC, simplify your life.

[zqt3344 21]

Hi,

I am a newbie. Just found this sight over weekend, I sure wish I had known about it 4 months ago! Great information and right on. ANYWAY....

1) Does anyone know where we can go on here to discuss or visit with other Ukraine K1 members?

2) Anyone had experience with exactly what Kiev embassy requires from fiance for beneficiary's interview?

a) reason I ask is I have read Kiev embassy website several times and their packet information, thus as usual with these federal govt entities, the right hand does not know what they left hand is doing, I see conflicting statements as to what they require or expect or need from Petitioner.

3) Anyone had experience with I134 form and other documents or supporting information, AND in what format or just exactly how or what is the Kiev embassy looking for or expecting, I am learning this all changes from one service center or from one government office to another as I go along this long lonely highway for a K1! From what I can tell each step of this process has new little twists and every office has it's own way of doing things as do the embassies from what I hear.

Anyway. Please help if you can or have time.

Thanks

ZQT3344

1) We can chat right here....

2) Where are the conflicting statements

3) Did you know the I-134 is optional?

Are you sure, where did you find that out at? I did not know the I-134 F was optional, was told by embassy it was required with most recent federal tax return. I would chat with you but do not know how to do it on this website yet, just figured out this email option tonight, and this is my first night/day on this thing anyway. Conflicting statements about what they require from petitioner for Fiancee interview at embassy to show financial support is what I mean on their website

[payxibka 10,045]

Are you sure, where did you find that out at? I did not know the I-134 F was optional, was told by embassy it was required with most recent federal tax return. I would chat with you but do not know how to do it on this website yet, just figured out this email option tonight, and this is my first night/day on this thing anyway. Conflicting statements about what they require from petitioner for Fiancee interview at embassy to show financial support is what I mean on their website

Documentation regarding financial support from the petitioner must be presented. It can be in any form so long as it contains enough detail and information for the consular officer to conclude that the beneficiary will not become a public charge, i.e. tax returns, bank statements, wage statements, etc. Petitioners may submit a notarized Affidavit of Support form I-134 if they wish.

And I do not wish.....

http://kiev.usembassy.gov/visa_K1K2_eng.html

Edited January 17, 2007 by fwaguy