Obama Could Be Facing 10 Years To Life In Prison…

[Teddy B 17,252]

According to this story, 80-90 of the preznit's staffers were aware of the exchange, while Congress was kept in the dark. Nice show of "transparency", eh?

And now the preznit is throwing Chuck Hagel under the bus, saying it was ultimately his decision.

They should really coordinate their lies before they start telling obvious whoppers in public.

Great, but that's not what I asked you.

You made this statement: "The preznit and his crew of no-experience experts saw fit to put them back on the battlefield anyway."

What knowledge of said crew of no-experience experts do you have in order to truthfully make that statement?

[UncleBeer 244]

So, precisely what have these five released Taliban leaders been charged with over the last 12+ years?

I'm not even asking for any convictions just the charges that have been brought against them? Let's hear it.

Absolutely nothing. They were waging an undeclared war against the US, were apprehended at it, aren't US citizens, and were held in non-US territory; therefore, there's absolutely no need to "file charges" as if they were criminal defendants.

Even at this, their captives showed them far more respect than they showed their victims.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Absolutely nothing. They were waging an undeclared war against the US, were apprehended at it, aren't US citizens, and were held in non-US territory; therefore, there's absolutely no need to "file charges" as if they were criminal defendants.

Even at this, their captives showed them far more respect than they showed their victims.

If that's true, then why did we charge any of them with anything? Your argument makes no sense and you know it. Or at least you should.

[UncleBeer 244]

Great, but that's not what I asked you.

You made this statement: "The preznit and his crew of no-experience experts saw fit to put them back on the battlefield anyway."

What knowledge of said crew of no-experience experts do you have in order to truthfully make that statement?

I highly recommend you invest in your own computer and internet connection (instead of you constantly using the public library's) so I don't have to look all this stuff up for you.

From TIME magazine, lefty fish-wrap if ever there was:

White House Overrode Internal Objections to Taliban Prisoner Release Pentagon, Intelligence officials used Top Secret intelligence to prevent previous release of Taliban Five, officials tell TIME

To pull off the prisoner swap of five Taliban leaders for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, the White House overrode an existing interagency process charged with debating the transfer of Guantanamo Bay prisoners and dismissed long-standing Pentagon and intelligence community concerns based on Top Secret intelligence about the dangers of releasing the five men, sources familiar with the debate tell TIME.

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National Security Council officials at the White House decline to describe the work of the ad hoc process they established to trade the prisoners, or to detail the measures they have taken to limit the threat the Taliban officials may pose. They say consensus on the plan was reached by the top officials of Obama’s national security team, including representatives from the Pentagon, State Department, intelligence community and Joint Chiefs of Staff. “These releases were worked extensively through deputies and principals,” says National Security Counsel Deputy for Strategic Communications Ben Rhodes. “There was not a dissent on moving forward with this plan.”

But officials in the Pentagon and intelligence communities had successfully fought off release of the five men in the past, officials tell TIME. “This was out of the norm,” says one official familiar with the debate over the dangers of releasing the five Taliban officials. “There was never the conversation.” Obama’s move was an ultimate victory for those at the White House and the State Department who had previously argued the military should “suck it up and salute,” says the official familiar with the debate.

Plenty more sources, if you need more spoon-feeding.

[UncleBeer 244]

If that's true, then why did we charge any of them with anything?

What does it matter? It's a technicality. I know this breaks your bleeding heart . . .

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

What does it matter? It's a technicality. I know this breaks your bleeding heart . . .

Actually, all it does is show just how weak of an argument you have. If one can call what you present an argument at all.

[Teddy B 17,252]

I highly recommend you invest in your own computer and internet connection (instead of you constantly using the public library's) so I don't have to look all this stuff up for you.

From TIME magazine, lefty fish-wrap if ever there was:

Plenty more sources, if you need more spoon-feeding.

You seem to be having difficulty understanding my question. Who was in this so called "crew of no-experience experts", and what were the deciding factors in their decision. It's pretty simple really. If you can't answer the questions, then your statement was nothing but hot air. We both know that it was, but the slim chance that you might man up and admit it is what I'm shooting for.

[UncleBeer 244]

Who was in this so called "crew of no-experience experts"

Lessee: Susan Rice, who only seems adept at lying. Tim Geithner, who couldn't do his own taxes without cheating on 'em. Hillary Clinton, who has no accomplishments to speak of as Secretary of State; in fact our international relationships with traditional allies have never been worse. AG Holder, who's so busy doling out injustice they oughta just change the name of his department, Joe Biden, who really needs a straightjacket. Jay Carney, who gave Baghdad Bob a run for his money.

The preznit himself is the perfect example of the no-experience resume: The only pre-public service job he ever held, he whined he felt he was "behind enemy lines" . These folks have led lives protected from reality and have been running (actually "ruining" is more appropriate) the country by theory. No personal experience to inform them.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Great, but that's not what I asked you.

You made this statement: "The preznit and his crew of no-experience experts saw fit to put them back on the battlefield anyway."

What knowledge of said crew of no-experience experts do you have in order to truthfully make that statement?

You are right good chance nobody in the white house knew either ..

come on be fo real

[UncleBeer 244]

come on be fo real

Not a chance. They 're just trolling.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Not a chance. They 're just trolling.

So basically he is saying 5 top level terrorist were released by the White house and nobody knew anything about it .

Maybe just maybe

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I highly recommend you invest in your own computer and internet connection (instead of you constantly using the public library's) so I don't have to look all this stuff up for you.

From TIME magazine, lefty fish-wrap if ever there was:

Interesting you quote this article - must not have read it to the end.

The White House said Tuesday the President had exercised his constitutional authority out of a sense of urgency for Bergdahl’s safety. “Delaying the transfer in order to provide the 30-day notice would interfere with the Executive’s performance of two related functions that the Constitution assigns to the President: protecting the lives of Americans abroad and protecting U.S. soldiers,” National Security Council spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden said in a statement released to the press. “Because such interference would significantly alter the balance between Congress and the President, and could even raise constitutional concerns, we believe it is fair to conclude that Congress did not intend that the Administration would be barred from taking the action it did in these circumstances,” Hayden said.

Jack Goldsmith, a Bush administration veteran of the battles between the executive branch and Congress over Commander-in-Chief powers in the war against terrorists, says Obama may have been acting legally. On the website Lawfare Tuesday he wrote, “If the statute impinged on an exclusive presidential power, the president properly disregarded it and did not violate it.”

And all of a sudden, it's not as black and white as you would like to believe.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Interesting you quote this article - must not have read it to the end.

The White House said Tuesday the President had exercised his constitutional authority out of a sense of urgency for Bergdahl’s safety. “Delaying the transfer in order to provide the 30-day notice would interfere with the Executive’s performance of two related functions that the Constitution assigns to the President: protecting the lives of Americans abroad and protecting U.S. soldiers,” National Security Council spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden said in a statement released to the press. “Because such interference would significantly alter the balance between Congress and the President, and could even raise constitutional concerns, we believe it is fair to conclude that Congress did not intend that the Administration would be barred from taking the action it did in these circumstances,” Hayden said.

Jack Goldsmith, a Bush administration veteran of the battles between the executive branch and Congress over Commander-in-Chief powers in the war against terrorists, says Obama may have been acting legally. On the website Lawfare Tuesday he wrote, “If the statute impinged on an exclusive presidential power, the president properly disregarded it and did not violate it.”

And all of a sudden, it's not as black and white as you would like to believe.

...and you hit it out of the ballpark!

[Darnell 8,478]

So, you're not allowed to have a different opinion if you're in the same party?

It's possible - to have different opinion PUBLICLY - but usually that means some back-room dealing occured and the ability to PUBLICLY announce it was negotiated.

USUALLY... and then everyone wins something , these congressmen/women.

Edited June 10, 2014 by Darnell

[UncleBeer 244]

Interesting you quote this article - must not have read it to the end.

Of course I read it to the end. You seem incapable of posting without an attempt to insult. Apparently one of your weaknesses.

While the opinions of flacks & hacks may differ, Congress and the American people are outraged by what this preznit has tried to sneak by them (and yes, even including that poll you tried to misrepresent as saying the public was "split")