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I would wait and see what happens. If you get an RFE and it centers around the chat, then you should write a letter explaining the situation in response to the RFE and send in more chat pages (hopefully pages supporting your defense that you are not married) ... Also an option would be to print out this forum thread (as it couldn't hurt to show that you figured that there would be a misunderstanding and reached out for help/guidance on what to do.)

IF no RFE, then just prepare to explain when you have your interview IF the conversation comes up. If they don't mention it, then you don't mention it. This will just eliminate any confusion and delays during the interview process and visa issuing process.

For any future people when submitting the I-129F form ... submitting chat transcripts at this point is not necessary. If you are missing pertinent items from the K-1 Guide list and you are using chat transcripts to make up for it, more than likely, you will get an RFE for your missing pertinent item. People have been getting RFEs for missing form information, signatures, letter of intents, etc. The K-1 Guide is a pretty good guide to follow. Do not start adding things that are not necessary or extra. You do not need to give them more things to issue an RFE on. You should only send in what is listed via the K-1 Guide.

The chat transcripts are usually introduced during the interview process.

Jan 25, 2014: I-129F Sent

Feb 13, 2014: NOA1

Apr 15,2014: NOA2 Notice Via USCIS Web Site

Apr 22, 2014: NOA2 Received In Postal Mail

Apr 28: 2014: NVC Received

Apr 30: 2014: NVC Left

May 09, 2014: Embassy Received

Jul 08, 2014: Interview - Approved - CEAC Status Ready

Jul 14 2014: CEAC updated but still READY Status

Jul 16 2014: CEAC Status changed to Administrative Processing

Jul 22 2014: CEAC Status changed to Issued

Jul 28 2014: VISA received

Aug 06 2014: U.S. Arrival (Ft. Lauderdale POE)

Children (3 kids)

Apr 28 2015: Filed I130 petition for each child

Aug 21 2015: Notice from USCIS that all 3 petitions transferred to California Service Center

Sep 17 2015: Approval for all 3 petitions

Nov 12 2015: Paid one AOS fee for all 3 children

Nov 13 2015: Paid separate IV fees for all 3 children

Dec 04 2015: Filed Affidavit of Support (I864) for each child

Jan 12 2016: Received RFE for missing birth certificate from one of the kids packet

Jan 13 2016: Sent in RFE evidence ( birth certificate copy .... again O_o )

Jan 19 2016: Received notice that they received the RFE evidence

Feb 22 2016: Called and found out another RFE was being sent out about birth certificate

Feb 24 2016: Sent in (inextensa versions, not de acta versions) of birth certificates for all children

Mar 02 2016: Received notice that they received the RFE evidence

Mar 11 2016: NVC Process finished, now awaiting interview time slot to be scheduled

Mar 29 2016: Called NVC and found out today they scheduled interview

Apr 01 2016: Received Packet 4 notice via e-mail with interview date

Apr 25 2016: Children received P4 letters in the mail

May 19 2016: Interview

Jun 03 2016: Received Visas

Jul 06 2016: Travel to US

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Relax, take it eaaaaasy (8) =D

2014-05-08 Sent I-129f
2014-05-12 I-129f received
2014-05-15 Received NOA1 email
2014-05-19 Received NOA1 hardcopy
2014-09-10 NOA2 Approved
2014-09-30 Package Left from NVC
2014-10-06 Received by Embassy
2014-10-31 Interview, Approved.
2014-11-03 Picked up visa.
2014-12-25 POE Ft. Lauderdale

2015-01-02 Wedding

---AOS---

2015-01-09 Filed I-485, I-131 and I-765

2015-01-12 AOS package received

2015-01-14 Email received: Case accepted and routed

2015-01-15 Check cashed

2015-01-20 Received NOAs in the mail

2015-02-07 Received Biometrics letter in the mail

2015-02-19 Biometrics Appt in Raleigh office.

2015-03-13 EAD and AP approved

2015-03-19 EAD and AP sent

2015-03-21 Received EAD/AP combo card

2015-03-26 Received 2nd Biometrics appointment for Charlotte office

2015-04-08 2nd Biometrics

2015-06-15 Received NPIW dated 06-11

2015-08-01 Green Card Approved

2015-08-03 Welcome Letter Mailed

2015-08-07 Welcome Letter Received

2015-08-22 Card Mailed

2015-08-26 Card Received

2015-11-20 Enlisted in the USMC

2016-02-16 Shipping date to bootcamp

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Hi everybody, so i was going over the i 129 f petition that my fiancee sent. We are waiting for our NOA2. As i was going over our whatsapp conversations that my fiancee sent, i saw a sentence that my fiancee said as " I will work on the marriage." But by marriage, he is referring to fiancee petition. And nowhere in other conversations, we refer to each other as husband or wife. Still do you guys think this " I will work on the marriage" sentence will cause us to get scrutinized or even be rejected by CO thinking we are already married? . We certainly are not. I am going to the interview in Turkey. Am I thinking too much? Please help

If the adjudicator finds reason to believe you're married, they'll deny the petition and tell you to file an I-130.

November 14th, 2013: She's here!

December 12th, 2013: Picked up marriage license.

December 14th, 2013: Wedding

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Hi everybody, so i was going over the i 129 f petition that my fiancee sent. We are waiting for our NOA2. As i was going over our whatsapp conversations that my fiancee sent, i saw a sentence that my fiancee said as " I will work on the marriage." But by marriage, he is referring to fiancee petition. And nowhere in other conversations, we refer to each other as husband or wife. Still do you guys think this " I will work on the marriage" sentence will cause us to get scrutinized or even be rejected by CO thinking we are already married? . We certainly are not. I am going to the interview in Turkey. Am I thinking too much? Please help

I think you should not have sent them all of your chat logs. It will probably delay your case. They would not take the risk of skipping over any incriminating lines in your chat logs. When dealing with government, always provide only what is asked for in the most concise way possible, nothing more, and nothing less. Did you submit any evidences like a certificate of marriageability?

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K-1 Visa Timeline (Denied, 3 years, 29 days total)
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2009-8-21 - K-1 sent

2009-10-27 - NOA1 received
2009-11-22 - Received request for DS-230
2009-11-26 - DS-230 sent
2010-1-22 - NOA2 received, medical check & interview date (2010-2-11)
2010-2-11 - Interview! Received Blue Slip for China Communist Party membership. sad.png
2010-3-26 - RFE sent, written statement explaining disassociation from CCP
2010-7-22 - Sent an inquiry every month starting 7/22, always still in AP
2010-12-1 - Senator Feinstein's official inquiry, still under AP (yep, doesn't help. Immigration > Senator)

(…many monthly inquiries later…)
2012-6-12 - Final interview scheduled (9/18/2012)

2012-9-18 - K-1 was denied. :cry: We could not overcome INA212(A)(3)(d)

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CR-1 Visa Timeline (Approved, converted into IR-1, 2 years, 1 month, 29 days)
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2012-12-10 - Married in Beijing! <3

2013-5-1 - I-130 sent
2013-5-6 - NOA1 received

2013-12-6 - Case transferred to the TSC

2013-1-9 - (Bogus) RFE received

2013-2-24 - RFE sent

2014-5-2 - NOA2 received

2014-5-6 - Case shipped to NVC

2014-5-14 - Case received at NVC

2014-6-16 - NVC Case Number Assigned

2014-11-15 - NVC Case Complete!

2015-1-6 - Guangzhou Consulate received

2015-1-26 - Interview date!

2015-1-26 - 221(g) denial (again)! :cry: Case being transferred to Washington for a SAO.

2015-5-21 - Consulate e-mailed us and asked for her passport! Approved?

2015-5-23 - Submitted passport to CITIC Bank

2015-6-29 - Passport with visa arrived :dancing:... but expires in 16 days, time to hustle!!!

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We had some stuff that I probably wouldnt have included if I had done a better job of reviewing the chat logs and it never came up. Just be prepared to address it. Also out of context the sentence you posted doesnt really seem like a big deal.

Citizenship:

Service Center: Online
CIS Office :         San Diego CA
Date Filed :         2018-07-13
NOA Date :         2018-07-20
Bio. Appt. :         2018-07-31
Interview Date:  2018-04-12

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Turkey
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I think you should not have sent them all of your chat logs. It will probably delay your case. They would not take the risk of skipping over any incriminating lines in your chat logs. When dealing with government, always provide only what is asked for in the most concise way possible, nothing more, and nothing less. Did you submit any evidences like a certificate of marriageability?

. What is certificate of marriageability? Nowhere in our petition, we refer to each other husband wife. He also states in how we met section that we did not get married. We are together over 8 years. He states that we did not get married cause he lost his job and that is the truth. He also states that he filed for fiancee visa after I left US and after he got a job. I think we are ok. Overanalyzing

We had some stuff that I probably wouldnt have included if I had done a better job of reviewing the chat logs and it never came up. Just be prepared to address it. Also out of context the sentence you posted doesnt really seem like a big deal.

. Thank you. I needed to hear that
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I would not worry. I highly doubt they read every line of every piece of documentation submitted

11/27/2013 - NOA1

12/12/2013 - ARN Change

03/18/2014 - RFE sent (no email notice or update online!)

03/29/2014 - RFE notice received in the mail

03/31/2014 - RFE response overnighted

04/08/2014 - NOA2! Hooray!!! (132 days)

04/11/2014 - Post Decision Activity: Forwarded to Department of State (NVC)

04/12/2014 - Received NOA2 hardcopy. Fancy!

04/23/2014 - NVC Received

04/28/2014 - NVC forwarded to consulate. GAME ON!

05/19/2014 - Interview date received via email (by request)

06/10/2014 - Interview - Approved, but... in ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSING due to incompetence

07/17/2014 - My Congressman's office sends an inquiry on our behalf

07/18/2014 - VISA SUPPOSEDLY ISSUED & MAILED!! Status reads "Ready" but was mailed per email to Congressman's office

07/28/2014 - COMPUTER GLITCH. Still waiting for visa.

08/04/2014 - ISSUED!

08/07/2014 - Visa received!!!!!!!!!!!

08/12/2014 - US ENTRY!!!!!!!

08/13/2014 - Applied for SSN

08/19/2014 - Received Social Security Card

08/22/2014 - Obtained Marriage License

09/08/2014 - We are married!

09/18/2014 - Filed I-485 & I-765

09/26/2014 - NOA 1 / I-485 & I-765

10/23/2014 - Biometrics Appointment

11/07/2014 - EAD card ordered to be produced
11/17/2014 - Employment Authorization card received!
02/18/2015 - Notice of Potential Interview Waiver Case received
07/03/2015 - Notice of Permanent Residency Approval / Welcome Notice received! (Issued 06/27/2015)
02/03/2016 - Got him out of my house.
05/27/2016 - Divorce finalized.
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. What is certificate of marriageability? Nowhere in our petition, we refer to each other husband wife. He also states in how we met section that we did not get married. We are together over 8 years. He states that we did not get married cause he lost his job and that is the truth. He also states that he filed for fiancee visa after I left US and after he got a job. I think we are ok. Overanalyzing

A certificate of marriageability (or marriageability affidavit) is required for some countries. It basically states that in an official form that you are single and not married. Or if you were married, that you are now divorced. I remember submitting one for my K-1 application. I would check with an attorney about whether or not this is required for you. Below is what a quick Google search brought up for me:

ISTANBUL, TURKEY

Turkish Marriage Procedures
(As of February 2014)
All marriages in Turkey must be performed according to the civil marriage code of Turkey. Religious ceremonies
have no legal effect. US military personnel are reminded to obtain permission to marry from their commanding
officers.
Below are the steps to be followed:
1. Execute an affidavit of marriageability (bekarlik belgesi) at the Consulate General, Istanbul. You will need to
present your passport and divorce decree (if you have a previous marriage). Then have this affidavit certified
at the legal office of the governor (Valilik Hukuk Isleri, Cagaloglu).
2. The affidavit should be taken to the marriage bureau (Evlendirme Dairesi) having jurisdiction over the place of
residence of the Turkish party (see list) and marriage application forms should be picked up from the marriage
bureau. The American party must submit a passport and six photos. If one of the parties is Turkish, an
ikametgah ilmuhaberi from the village elder (muhtar) may be required.
3. Complete the following forms from the marriage bureau:
Statement of Marriage (Evlenme Beyannamesi), Census Card Sample (Nufus Cuzdani Ornegi), Marriageability
Document (Evlenme Ehliyet Belgesi) and Marriage Statistical Form (Evlenme Istatistik Formu). The Turkish
party may be required to provide a certified birth registration document from the census office where the father
is registered.
A medical examination is optional: each party has the right to demand that the other undergo a medical
examination.
4. After completion, all the appropriate forms are to be turned in to the marriage bureau and a
marriage date is to be scheduled at the marriage bureau.
If you wish the marriage ceremony to take place outside the marriage bureau and outside office hours, you
should tell the marriage officer. Transportation expenses of the marriage officer and his assistant to the place
of the ceremony and their return home should be paid at the time of their departure from the ceremony.
5. Spouses of United States citizens are entitled to immigrate to the United States if not
otherwise ineligible. If your future husband or wife is not an American citizen or
permanent resident and if you plan to reside in the U.S., the foreign spouse will need an
immigrant visa to enter the U.S. The American must file a petition (Form I-130) on behalf
of the foreign spouse. This cannot be done until after the marriage. Please contact the
immigrant visa unit during information hours for instructions regarding the filing of an
immigrant visa petition for your spouse.

Source: http://photos.state.gov/libraries/istanbul/231771/PDFs/Marriage%20Affidavit%20Turkey88_040914.pdf

An RFE can mean months to years, in some rare cases, of additional waiting time. I know you're not looking for this kind of response, only something to ease your mind, but you asked an objective question, and I'm trying to help you with an objective answer. Good luck to you.

Edited by Simeon

==========================================================================

K-1 Visa Timeline (Denied, 3 years, 29 days total)
==========================================================================

2009-8-21 - K-1 sent

2009-10-27 - NOA1 received
2009-11-22 - Received request for DS-230
2009-11-26 - DS-230 sent
2010-1-22 - NOA2 received, medical check & interview date (2010-2-11)
2010-2-11 - Interview! Received Blue Slip for China Communist Party membership. sad.png
2010-3-26 - RFE sent, written statement explaining disassociation from CCP
2010-7-22 - Sent an inquiry every month starting 7/22, always still in AP
2010-12-1 - Senator Feinstein's official inquiry, still under AP (yep, doesn't help. Immigration > Senator)

(…many monthly inquiries later…)
2012-6-12 - Final interview scheduled (9/18/2012)

2012-9-18 - K-1 was denied. :cry: We could not overcome INA212(A)(3)(d)

==========================================================================
CR-1 Visa Timeline (Approved, converted into IR-1, 2 years, 1 month, 29 days)
==========================================================================

2012-12-10 - Married in Beijing! <3

2013-5-1 - I-130 sent
2013-5-6 - NOA1 received

2013-12-6 - Case transferred to the TSC

2013-1-9 - (Bogus) RFE received

2013-2-24 - RFE sent

2014-5-2 - NOA2 received

2014-5-6 - Case shipped to NVC

2014-5-14 - Case received at NVC

2014-6-16 - NVC Case Number Assigned

2014-11-15 - NVC Case Complete!

2015-1-6 - Guangzhou Consulate received

2015-1-26 - Interview date!

2015-1-26 - 221(g) denial (again)! :cry: Case being transferred to Washington for a SAO.

2015-5-21 - Consulate e-mailed us and asked for her passport! Approved?

2015-5-23 - Submitted passport to CITIC Bank

2015-6-29 - Passport with visa arrived :dancing:... but expires in 16 days, time to hustle!!!

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Turkey
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A certificate of marriageability (or marriageability affidavit) is required for some countries. It basically states that in an official form that you are single and not married. Or if you were married, that you are now divorced. I remember submitting one for my K-1 application. I would check with an attorney about whether or not this is required for you. Below is what a quick Google search brought up for me:

Source: http://photos.state.gov/libraries/istanbul/231771/PDFs/Marriage%20Affidavit%20Turkey88_040914.pdf

An RFE can mean months to years, in some rare cases, of additional waiting time. I know you're not looking for this kind of response, only something to ease your mind, but you asked an objective question, and I'm trying to help you with an objective answer. Good luck to you.

This info that you submitted is for marrying in Turkey. My fianceee hasnt come to Turkey yet. Also, we did not get married in US either, which I am sure can be checked. We also stated that we are single in the forms, and we are. Still, thanks for helping.

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You are thinking so much. Do you think they have the time to review every word you say to each others? All these Skype, whats app...whatsoever, goes to bin. CO might have quick look for page or two then bin them. Chat can be manipulated and you can fake them on PC. They look for solid evidences like Pictures and tickets and more reliable document. Not something you can easily fake or create on PC.

So chill and relax, everything is going to be ok, you will get your approval soon.

Good luck :)

I-130 (Parent)

- Submitted June 2021

- 1st NOA (June 2021)

 

I-130 (Brother 1)

- Submitted (September 2019)

- 1st NOA (September 2019)

 

I-130 (Brother 2)

- Submitted (Not yet)

- 1st NOA (Not yet)

 

 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Turkey
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You are thinking so much. Do you think they have the time to review every word you say to each others? All these Skype, whats app...whatsoever, goes to bin. CO might have quick look for page or two then bin them. Chat can be manipulated and you can fake them on PC. They look for solid evidences like Pictures and tickets and more reliable document. Not something you can easily fake or create on PC.

So chill and relax, everything is going to be ok, you will get your approval soon.

Good luck :)

Thank you so much. Thats what I think too.

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Dont worry about that my dear..mine was worse..we fought badly..talking about divorce and all that..alot of harse and mean words to each other and the CO smiles is said..wow...its been hard for you guys to be separated for this long..Im ok with your relationship and got my visa...Just hand everything to them..they wont be able to read all that day..some interesting ones may sparkle their interest and thats what a marriage and every relationship entails..you soo good to go..omg mine was worse..u have no problem..Believe in God and be honest..You will be ok...

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Dont worry about that my dear..mine was worse..we fought badly..talking about divorce and all that..alot of harse and mean words to each other and the CO smiles is said..wow...its been hard for you guys to be separated for this long..Im ok with your relationship and got my visa...Just hand everything to them..they wont be able to read all that day..some interesting ones may sparkle their interest and thats what a marriage and every relationship entails..you soo good to go..omg mine was worse..u have no problem..Believe in God and be honest..You will be ok...

. Vauwww so he saw divorce... Thanks for your nice words. We have been together so long... I just want to be with him. Think Im overanalyzing, but even if it comes, we can prove that we are not married.
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How many pages of chat logs did you send? If it is a lot, I don't think they will read word per word. Also, you mentioned anyways that it is actually written as "when we get married ..." and "future wife", so really, nothing for you to worry about. Just prepare when asked (which I highly doubt will be raised) in the interview. Always just be truthful about everything.

Also, as mentioned by Simeon, some consulates require about the proof of singleness. In Philippines, we call it "Certificate of No marriage". If you have something like that in Turkey, then all the more that you have you nothing to be concerned about. Take it easy and stay focused on the rest of the requirements for your interview, and everything will work out just fine. All the best! :thumbs:

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01/14/2013 Filed I-129f

07/31/2013 I-129f NOA2

11/04/2013 Visa Received

11/21/2013 POE: Honolulu .. Aloha!

01/27/2014 Wedding day! (L)

03/11/2014 Filed I-485, I-131 and I-765

05/31/2014 EAD/AP card received

06/27/2014 Green card received

05/12/2016 Filed I-751

05/25/2016 Check cashed

05/26/2016 NOA (Dated 05/16) Received

06/20/2016 Biometric Appointment

05/07/2017 10-year Green card received

N-400

07/02/2018 Filed N-400 online

07/24/2018 Biometric Appointment

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