Danger Will Robinson!

[gearheadgeek 1]

Well, maybe more frustration than danger.

My petition was approved 30 Aug 2006 but didn't get to Kiev (or rather, was not acknowledged by Kiev) until 18 Oct 2006. Nadya had gotten busy on her details, but still almost missed the 1 Dec 2006 interview, going to the police in Nikolaev to get her criminal report. She has a bit of a problem since she was married to a career military man and thus lived several different places in the FSU. However, there is no SU now, only seperate counries. The Ukrainian police said they could handle this, so she paid the fee early in October and waited a couple weeks. The reports were not ready yet, so she kept checking every other day or so. As the end of November approached and her interview date loomed, she asked her son-in-law, who is a businessman in Nikolaev and thus has some connections, to look into it. Her reports showed up the next day. With a date of 27 Oct 2006!!! They had been sitting on them for a month! So she went to the interview. The Russian police report, gathered for her by the Nikolaev police (and, BTW, paid for by Nadya), did not pass muster. So she went to the Russian embassy in Keiv. They said they could get a report in 6 months, or she could go to a firm in Moscow to get the report. It would be free if you didn't mind waiting, oh maybe 3 months. Or if you were in a hurry, $100 would get in in a week. Or if you were really in a hurry, $200 would get it in 2 days. Sooooo, she boarded a train for Moscow. It seems the firm wanted $400, and it would take 2 weeks. I said we had no choice, so she paid and hopped back on the train. The trip was 60 hour, 4 of which were in Moscow, and 56 on the train. When she went back in to weeks, she was told it was not ready. That was three weeks ago. The report is still not ready - 2 weeks has turned into 5. Meanwhile, I read today that "your fiancee has 4 months from the time your petition is approved to get her visa". I read that on this site, but naturally can't find it now. If you will recall, my petition was approved on 30 Aug 2006, or 4 months and 2 weeks ago .... Nadya is going absolutely crazy over this. We foolishly thought we would spend Christmas together. Then we thought maybe New Years. Then mayb the Orthodox Christmas. Maybe Easter???

So remind me, why am I doing this??? It sure seemed like a good idea at the time ....

I'm just whining. I know others here have had more grief than Nadya and I.

[SoL. 0]

I am so sorry they made it so complicated for you both, all we want with this process is to be together with our SO and they make it so difficult.

I wish you the best of luck and hope that everything gets solved soon!

[LookyWhatIFound 38]

Well, maybe more frustration than danger.

My petition was approved 30 Aug 2006 but didn't get to Kiev (or rather, was not acknowledged by Kiev) until 18 Oct 2006. Nadya had gotten busy on her details, but still almost missed the 1 Dec 2006 interview, going to the police in Nikolaev to get her criminal report. She has a bit of a problem since she was married to a career military man and thus lived several different places in the FSU. However, there is no SU now, only seperate counries. The Ukrainian police said they could handle this, so she paid the fee early in October and waited a couple weeks. The reports were not ready yet, so she kept checking every other day or so. As the end of November approached and her interview date loomed, she asked her son-in-law, who is a businessman in Nikolaev and thus has some connections, to look into it. Her reports showed up the next day. With a date of 27 Oct 2006!!! They had been sitting on them for a month! So she went to the interview. The Russian police report, gathered for her by the Nikolaev police (and, BTW, paid for by Nadya), did not pass muster. So she went to the Russian embassy in Keiv. They said they could get a report in 6 months, or she could go to a firm in Moscow to get the report. It would be free if you didn't mind waiting, oh maybe 3 months. Or if you were in a hurry, $100 would get in in a week. Or if you were really in a hurry, $200 would get it in 2 days. Sooooo, she boarded a train for Moscow. It seems the firm wanted $400, and it would take 2 weeks. I said we had no choice, so she paid and hopped back on the train. The trip was 60 hour, 4 of which were in Moscow, and 56 on the train. When she went back in to weeks, she was told it was not ready. That was three weeks ago. The report is still not ready - 2 weeks has turned into 5. Meanwhile, I read today that "your fiancee has 4 months from the time your petition is approved to get her visa". I read that on this site, but naturally can't find it now. If you will recall, my petition was approved on 30 Aug 2006, or 4 months and 2 weeks ago .... Nadya is going absolutely crazy over this. We foolishly thought we would spend Christmas together. Then we thought maybe New Years. Then mayb the Orthodox Christmas. Maybe Easter???

So remind me, why am I doing this??? It sure seemed like a good idea at the time ....

I'm just whining. I know others here have had more grief than Nadya and I.

Uggh! Hmm thats the FSU for you They say the emabassies can extend that 4 month deadline on your petition. I think there's a form on here somewhere that you can send the embassy, or hopefully they automatically extended it for you.

Best of luck with it!

[payxibka 10,045]

Well, maybe more frustration than danger.

My petition was approved 30 Aug 2006 but didn't get to Kiev (or rather, was not acknowledged by Kiev) until 18 Oct 2006. Nadya had gotten busy on her details, but still almost missed the 1 Dec 2006 interview, going to the police in Nikolaev to get her criminal report. She has a bit of a problem since she was married to a career military man and thus lived several different places in the FSU. However, there is no SU now, only seperate counries. The Ukrainian police said they could handle this, so she paid the fee early in October and waited a couple weeks. The reports were not ready yet, so she kept checking every other day or so. As the end of November approached and her interview date loomed, she asked her son-in-law, who is a businessman in Nikolaev and thus has some connections, to look into it. Her reports showed up the next day. With a date of 27 Oct 2006!!! They had been sitting on them for a month! So she went to the interview. The Russian police report, gathered for her by the Nikolaev police (and, BTW, paid for by Nadya), did not pass muster. So she went to the Russian embassy in Keiv. They said they could get a report in 6 months, or she could go to a firm in Moscow to get the report. It would be free if you didn't mind waiting, oh maybe 3 months. Or if you were in a hurry, $100 would get in in a week. Or if you were really in a hurry, $200 would get it in 2 days. Sooooo, she boarded a train for Moscow. It seems the firm wanted $400, and it would take 2 weeks. I said we had no choice, so she paid and hopped back on the train. The trip was 60 hour, 4 of which were in Moscow, and 56 on the train. When she went back in to weeks, she was told it was not ready. That was three weeks ago. The report is still not ready - 2 weeks has turned into 5. Meanwhile, I read today that "your fiancee has 4 months from the time your petition is approved to get her visa". I read that on this site, but naturally can't find it now. If you will recall, my petition was approved on 30 Aug 2006, or 4 months and 2 weeks ago .... Nadya is going absolutely crazy over this. We foolishly thought we would spend Christmas together. Then we thought maybe New Years. Then mayb the Orthodox Christmas. Maybe Easter???

So remind me, why am I doing this??? It sure seemed like a good idea at the time ....

I'm just whining. I know others here have had more grief than Nadya and I.

Russian law (MVD Order no. 965, dated November 1, 2001) mandates that the Ministry of Internal Affairs (MVD) provide police certificates both to Russian citizens and to foreigners who have lived or are living in Russia. The law states that in Russia, MVD offices must provide the certificate within 30 days. Those residing outside of Russia, both Russian citizens and non-citizens, may either delegate a Power-of-Attorney to apply for the certificate on their behalf in Russia, or apply directly to the Russian Consulate. Police certificates should note all names that the person has used in Russia, and should note the MVD branches in all locations that were queried.

To extend petition:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...p;page=examples

Look for - Request to Extend Approval of I-129F

[ladykelia 0]

Ugh. You have the right to whine! Sorry about all your troubles. Hang in there. You're doing it for the woman you love!

[patiently_waiting 0]

You've come this far...don't give up hope now. You have every right to vent. I would too. It seems to be a never ending process. I always tell myself, "Good things come to those who wait."

[gearheadgeek 1]

Thank you all for your moral support. I am not ready to give up yet, but it does get discouraging at times. Especially things like the Nilolaev police sitting on their report for a month, telling Nadya it wasn't done.

[gearheadgeek 1]

Russian law (MVD Order no. 965, dated November 1, 2001) mandates that the Ministry of Internal Affairs (MVD) provide police certificates both to Russian citizens and to foreigners who have lived or are living in Russia. The law states that in Russia, MVD offices must provide the certificate within 30 days. Those residing outside of Russia, both Russian citizens and non-citizens, may either delegate a Power-of-Attorney to apply for the certificate on their behalf in Russia, or apply directly to the Russian Consulate. Police certificates should note all names that the person has used in Russia, and should note the MVD branches in all locations that were queried.

Perhaps Russia is better than the Ukraine about this? It did not seem to bother the Ukraine police to sit on the report for a month. If the police don't follow the law, who do you report them to?

The real problem is that she needs reports from several places, not just Russia. The firm in Moscow was to deal with that.

To extend petition:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...p;page=examples

Look for - Request to Extend Approval of I-129F

Aha! Thank you very much!

[payxibka 10,045]

Perhaps Russia is better than the Ukraine about this? It did not seem to bother the Ukraine police to sit on the report for a month. If the police don't follow the law, who do you report them to?

The real problem is that she needs reports from several places, not just Russia. The firm in Moscow was to deal with that.

Obviously asking the Nikolaev police authority to get a Russian PC adds an uncontrollable to the loop. The Nikolaev police are not governed by Russian law therefore sitting on the request was just that.

I do have a question about the firm in Moscow. To they just facilitate Russian Federation PC's or do they get involved with PC's from other FSU states?

Edited January 16, 2007 by fwaguy

[gearheadgeek 1]

I do have a question about the firm in Moscow. To they just facilitate Russian Federation PC's or do they get involved with PC's from other FSU states?

I have not gotten involved in the machinery at that end. I will ask Nadya and report back.

[zqt3344 21]

Well, maybe more frustration than danger.

My petition was approved 30 Aug 2006 but didn't get to Kiev (or rather, was not acknowledged by Kiev) until 18 Oct 2006. Nadya had gotten busy on her details, but still almost missed the 1 Dec 2006 interview, going to the police in Nikolaev to get her criminal report. She has a bit of a problem since she was married to a career military man and thus lived several different places in the FSU. However, there is no SU now, only seperate counries. The Ukrainian police said they could handle this, so she paid the fee early in October and waited a couple weeks. The reports were not ready yet, so she kept checking every other day or so. As the end of November approached and her interview date loomed, she asked her son-in-law, who is a businessman in Nikolaev and thus has some connections, to look into it. Her reports showed up the next day. With a date of 27 Oct 2006!!! They had been sitting on them for a month! So she went to the interview. The Russian police report, gathered for her by the Nikolaev police (and, BTW, paid for by Nadya), did not pass muster. So she went to the Russian embassy in Keiv. They said they could get a report in 6 months, or she could go to a firm in Moscow to get the report. It would be free if you didn't mind waiting, oh maybe 3 months. Or if you were in a hurry, $100 would get in in a week. Or if you were really in a hurry, $200 would get it in 2 days. Sooooo, she boarded a train for Moscow. It seems the firm wanted $400, and it would take 2 weeks. I said we had no choice, so she paid and hopped back on the train. The trip was 60 hour, 4 of which were in Moscow, and 56 on the train. When she went back in to weeks, she was told it was not ready. That was three weeks ago. The report is still not ready - 2 weeks has turned into 5. Meanwhile, I read today that "your fiancee has 4 months from the time your petition is approved to get her visa". I read that on this site, but naturally can't find it now. If you will recall, my petition was approved on 30 Aug 2006, or 4 months and 2 weeks ago .... Nadya is going absolutely crazy over this. We foolishly thought we would spend Christmas together. Then we thought maybe New Years. Then mayb the Orthodox Christmas. Maybe Easter???

So remind me, why am I doing this??? It sure seemed like a good idea at the time ....

I'm just whining. I know others here have had more grief than Nadya and I.

HEY that sucks and is horrible experience, you are not whining. But it sounds so familiar, with any governement entity in Ukraine, either you bribe em or pay em off or you know someone that can call in favor for you like her son in law. Did you ever get approved or get to interview?

[gearheadgeek 1]

Obviously asking the Nikolaev police authority to get a Russian PC adds an uncontrollable to the loop. The Nikolaev police are not governed by Russian law therefore sitting on the request was just that.

Apparently the Nikolaev police offered. In exchange for some money, of course. Nadya didn't know, having never done this before ....

I do have a question about the firm in Moscow. To they just facilitate Russian Federation PC's or do they get involved with PC's from other FSU states?

I didn't get a definitive answer, but whatever they did was acceptable to the embassy in Kiev and covered the other places she had lived.

[gearheadgeek 1]

HEY that sucks and is horrible experience, you are not whining. But it sounds so familiar, with any governement entity in Ukraine, either you bribe em or pay em off or you know someone that can call in favor for you like her son in law. Did you ever get approved or get to interview?

Nadya had an interview the 1st of December. She passed everything except her one police report did not. All she had to do was to deliver an acceptable police report.

The good news is that the firm in Moscow came through. Six weeks late, but they did come through. I had to extend my I-129F but the embassy was good about it. Nadya dropped the papers off the 5th. I emailed the embassy on the 8th for status, and they graciously replied! She was issued a visa on the 7th! FedEx hasn't arrived with it yet, but it should be in transit.

The next step is to buy tickets and bring her here. I decided to buy 2 round trip tickets because it wasn't much more than 1 round trip and 1 one way, and this we we can sit together on the plane.

[GrenadianCrix 1]

Congrats on your perserverance.

It will all seem so worth it...at some point.

HEY that sucks and is horrible experience, you are not whining. But it sounds so familiar, with any governement entity in Ukraine, either you bribe em or pay em off or you know someone that can call in favor for you like her son in law. Did you ever get approved or get to interview?

Nadya had an interview the 1st of December. She passed everything except her one police report did not. All she had to do was to deliver an acceptable police report.

The good news is that the firm in Moscow came through. Six weeks late, but they did come through. I had to extend my I-129F but the embassy was good about it. Nadya dropped the papers off the 5th. I emailed the embassy on the 8th for status, and they graciously replied! She was issued a visa on the 7th! FedEx hasn't arrived with it yet, but it should be in transit.

The next step is to buy tickets and bring her here. I decided to buy 2 round trip tickets because it wasn't much more than 1 round trip and 1 one way, and this we we can sit together on the plane.

[~Chad~ 0]

I'm sorry to hear that gearhead, I hope everything will work out for you and your fiancee. We are pulling for you.