RFE - due July 8 Need to show shared finances

[lambtoast 0]

I am working on our RFE and I am starting to panic.. now I know why I have put it off for so long. It's asking for proof of shared resources. We have filed taxes together .. but no shared bank accounts or both names on utility bills etc. We have lease agreements together (They stated they weren't complete and "unofficial"). I have asked my landlord to provide a letter of support. I kept my canadian bank account because it has a joint with my US account of the same bank - I didn't see the point of trying to get ANOTHER bank account (other than this obviously - which slid by me). I have never had joint bank accounts with anyone and it's not really something i am super keen on. We have our car insurance in both our names. Medical stuff. Our driver's license's show old addresses because they don't send you change of address stickers here in CAlifornia.

I am freaking out - for christs sake I left an $80,000 a year job in Canada to live here and I am now making $17 an hour. That in itself should be enough proof.

Any and all help and suggestions is very appreciated.

Thanks!!! I JUST WANT MY 10 YEAR CARD!!!!!

[Sirliner 26]

This older post has some really good info for you: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/284203-evidence-of-bona-fide-marriage-relationship/

[lambtoast 0]

thank you

I am just wondering if other people have had to show this when they didn't have joint bank accounts - how big of a deal is it if I don't….

[NikLR 13,227]

I"m sorry are you going through the IR1 process AGAIN? or??? Your timeline is confusing as is your signature. Are you removing conditions? Seems a bit late for that.

Why do you think they're specifically asking for joint bank accounts?

Did you include proof of joint auto and medical insurance? Joint tax returns? emails, skype chats? Photos? credit cards? etc?

Edited June 7, 2014 by NLR

[Kathryn41 3,205]

topic has been moved from IR-1/CR-1 visa forum to Removing Conditions on Residency forum as the OP is applying for her 10 year green card.

[lambtoast 0]

Yes it's for removing my conditions…. I applied in December and then I got the RFE. I have submitted lease agreements, car insurance… pictures.. letters from friends and family. I am am just fearful of the whole RFE thing.

[NancyNguyen 1,657]

Hope it helps

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/499269-no-banking-activities-at-all-rfe-approval-experience/

Edited June 7, 2014 by NancyNguyen

[NancyNguyen 1,657]

1. You two need to go to CA DMV to change your address on driver license yourselves, you can't just say they don't remind us to do so, it is not a sufficient answer. Law requires you change your address within 10 days after you change your address.

2. You need to explain why you don't have any bills together, no banking activities together. Lease agreement is not complete or unofficial then you need to check if you two make initials every pages, or 2 signatures with leasing manager signature at last page? Check again and make another copy of whole lease, and submit it again. You need to get your old lease at well, the current one is not sufficient.

3. Car insurance, car title are among most essential things of a family and you don't have them then you need to explain on a letter why.

This is my RFE last month and I made honest mistake of missing old lease, and forgot to explain why my car title is too recent (4 months old by the time I submitted the ROC) on my I-751 package but I submitted a full response right after, I was approved a week later. Hope it helps.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/499269-no-banking-activities-at-all-rfe-approval-experience/

If you can't persuade them your situation, they might issue another RFE or transfer your case to local office for interview. Good luck.

[Jon and Krissy 452]

I am working on our RFE and I am starting to panic.. now I know why I have put it off for so long. It's asking for proof of shared resources. We have filed taxes together .. but no shared bank accounts or both names on utility bills etc. We have lease agreements together (They stated they weren't complete and "unofficial"). I have asked my landlord to provide a letter of support. I kept my canadian bank account because it has a joint with my US account of the same bank - I didn't see the point of trying to get ANOTHER bank account (other than this obviously - which slid by me). I have never had joint bank accounts with anyone and it's not really something i am super keen on. We have our car insurance in both our names. Medical stuff. Our driver's license's show old addresses because they don't send you change of address stickers here in CAlifornia.

I am freaking out - for christs sake I left an $80,000 a year job in Canada to live here and I am now making $17 an hour. That in itself should be enough proof.

Any and all help and suggestions is very appreciated.

Thanks!!! I JUST WANT MY 10 YEAR CARD!!!!!

We didn't have a joint bank account, and didn't receive an RFE. Here's what I included with the I-751:

Enclosed, please find the following documents (copies, unless specifically indicated as originals) that verify the status of our marriage and ongoing relationship:

• I-751 (original)

• List of previous residences together (original)

• Sol’s passport and visa

• Sol’s green card (front and back)

• Our marriage license

• Birth certificate of our son

• Consular Report of Birth Abroad for our son

• Our son's U.S. passport

• Summary of my company’s life insurance benefits showing my wife as my primary beneficiary

• Heath insurance cards showing our coverage under the same account

• Joint lease agreements for two one year periods for the home we rent together

• Drivers licenses showing our address together

• Joint utility bills

• Joint title to our vehicle

• Joint insurance on our vehicle

• Pictures of us together

• Airline reservations for our trip to New York to visit Sol’s aunt, uncle, and cousins, and my cousin.

• Hotel reservations for an all too rare romantic two night getaway without our son

• Original letters written by friends attesting to our relationship and marriage

• Envelopes and cards addressed to both of us

• Federal and state tax returns filed jointly for 2011

[NancyNguyen 1,657]

A child is the most certain key to ROC already I believe.

We didn't have a joint bank account, and didn't receive an RFE. Here's what I included with the I-751:

Enclosed, please find the following documents (copies, unless specifically indicated as originals) that verify the status of our marriage and ongoing relationship:

• I-751 (original)
• List of previous residences together (original)
• Sol’s passport and visa
• Sol’s green card (front and back)
• Our marriage license
• Birth certificate of our son
• Consular Report of Birth Abroad for our son
• Our son's U.S. passport
• Summary of my company’s life insurance benefits showing my wife as my primary beneficiary
• Heath insurance cards showing our coverage under the same account
• Joint lease agreements for two one year periods for the home we rent together
• Drivers licenses showing our address together
• Joint utility bills
• Joint title to our vehicle
• Joint insurance on our vehicle
• Pictures of us together
• Airline reservations for our trip to New York to visit Sol’s aunt, uncle, and cousins, and my cousin.
• Hotel reservations for an all too rare romantic two night getaway without our son
• Original letters written by friends attesting to our relationship and marriage
• Envelopes and cards addressed to both of us
• Federal and state tax returns filed jointly for 2011

[deus360 9]

1. You two need to go to CA DMV to change your address on driver license yourselves, you can't just say they don't remind us to do so, it is not a sufficient answer. Law requires you change your address within 10 days after you change your address.

2. You need to explain why you don't have any bills together, no banking activities together. Lease agreement is not complete or unofficial then you need to check if you two make initials every pages, or 2 signatures with leasing manager signature at last page? Check again and make another copy of whole lease, and submit it again. You need to get your old lease at well, the current one is not sufficient.

3. Car insurance, car title are among most essential things of a family and you don't have them then you need to explain on a letter why.

This is my RFE last month and I made honest mistake of missing old lease, and forgot to explain why my car title is too recent (4 months old by the time I submitted the ROC) on my I-751 package but I submitted a full response right after, I was approved a week later. Hope it helps.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/499269-no-banking-activities-at-all-rfe-approval-experience/

If you can't persuade them your situation, they might issue another RFE or transfer your case to local office for interview. Good luck.

She is required to update her address with the USCIS not the dmv 10 after.

[deus360 9]

I got a RFE also before getting approved. They asked me for several more thing but in reality in my case they wanted my tax transcripts. I manage to deduced what triggered my RFE. It was that I simply didn't include all the pages for my taxes and they thought I was hiding something. You have to deduce was triggered your RFE and give them what they want, some times they put more emphasis next to the wording of what they want. Also this guys really like it when you have share assets, they assume your marriage is more legit, because they assume people don't trust estrangers with money which is kind of true. So, If you have something like a stock account, I would recommend you to include your partner there, and then call your broker firm, to fax you a paper that includes your name the total amount of assets plus partners name.

Hope some of this info helps, I know how problematic the USCIS can be.

[NancyNguyen 1,657]

She is required to update her address with the USCIS not the dmv 10 after.

Our driver's license's show old addresses because they don't send you change of address stickers here in CAlifornia. -> you need to read before you type.

[deus360 9]

Our driver's license's show old addresses because they don't send you change of address stickers here in CAlifornia. -> you need to read before you type.

That is true, if you want your dmv to update change you have to go there, but that thing you are saying about that she needs to change her address within 10 days, that change is not with the ca dmv department, it has to be done directly with the USCIS. The point is that as long as the USCIS knows where she is she has not broken any law. She can forget to update her drive license address with dmv and no be in any problem. But for the REF she should update her DL just to have more prove.

[NancyNguyen 1,657]

That is true, if you want your dmv to update change you have to go there, but that thing you are saying about that she needs to change her address within 10 days, that change is not with the ca dmv department, it has to be done directly with the USCIS. The point is that as long as the USCIS knows where she is she has not broken any law. She can forget to update her drive license address with dmv and no be in any problem. But for the REF she should update her DL just to have more prove.

You should read carefully before giving opinion, please. I didn't mention anything about OP's change of address with USCIS. Did you have a good look at her RFE letter? OP's RFE does request both driver licenses reflecting current address, and OP said they never changed address with DMV because DMV didn't remind them to do so. So I told them that they need to go to DMV to do in person, and changing DL address is their responsibility.