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I know most people say don't risk it, etc. But my fiance really wants to come visit at the end of February. He has 9 days of paid holiday left before new holiday starts in March and wants to use it, since it might be the last time he can take holiday. If his employer (DHL) mentions that he is just using up the rest of his holiday in their letter and thathe is expected back at a certain date, will this help? Along with pay stubs, bank statements, his return ticket, proof that he owns 2 vehicles in the UK and rents a garage for them, etc.? He does'nt have a rental agreement or mortgage since he lives with his parents. We haven't filed the I-129F yet, but were going to in the next few days so we can hope to have it processed by the end of the year. I don't really want to have to wait 2 more months to file if possible.

I know it's all up to the POE officer and you can't really say, but what percentage of people are denied entry? I really want to see him, I miss him loads. He makes more money than I do, so it's easier for him to visit this one last time before we don't see each other for a long, long time. :(

Would just like to hear other people's ideas about/experiences with this.

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I would be really, really surprised if he were denied entry, especially with all of those things that proves his ties. I just posted a similar post because my fiance is visiting next week. We've had a visa pending for almost two months and he is visiting without a return ticket (we're going to buy it either when we know his interview date or when airfares drop, whichever happens first), a letter from an employer, and he also lives at home. (Basically he owns a vehicle, has a job, and is a fulltime student so we're hoping that helps.) It's good to be cautious, but I wouldn't worry too much. Wehave flown back and forth several time while the visa has been pending and have never had any trouble as long as we have had the return ticket. He is also from the UK so it is a similar situation. Good luck!

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I would be really, really surprised if he were denied entry......

You would?

I don't mean to be a smarty pants, but it's the CBP officers that decide entry and not us here at VJ in our collective wisdom.

Always keep in mind that a turnback can cause further visa processing delays. Turnbacks create a security notation in airport entry records that will need checked out. Consulates can also request an additional visit by the beneficiary to the consulate to collect fingerprints for deeper security checks.

Your men may get in just fine. It's a gamble you have to weigh.

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I would be really, really surprised if he were denied entry......

You would?

I don't mean to be a smarty pants, but it's the CBP officers that decide entry and not us here at VJ in our collective wisdom.

Always keep in mind that a turnback can cause further visa processing delays. Turnbacks create a security notation in airport entry records that will need checked out. Consulates can also request an additional visit by the beneficiary to the consulate to collect fingerprints for deeper security checks.

Your men may get in just fine. It's a gamble you have to weigh.

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I would be really, really surprised if he were denied entry, especially with all of those things that proves his ties. I just posted a similar post because my fiance is visiting next week. We've had a visa pending for almost two months and he is visiting without a return ticket (we're going to buy it either when we know his interview date or when airfares drop, whichever happens first), a letter from an employer, and he also lives at home. (Basically he owns a vehicle, has a job, and is a fulltime student so we're hoping that helps.) It's good to be cautious, but I wouldn't worry too much. Wehave flown back and forth several time while the visa has been pending and have never had any trouble as long as we have had the return ticket. He is also from the UK so it is a similar situation. Good luck!

One of the conditions of the VWP is a return ticket.

Plus of course there is uaually very little difference in the price.

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My fiance is from the UK and also lives with his parents, so a very similar situation with no mortgage, lease, etc. He visited for 2 weeks in November/December, and had absolutely no problems, they didn't even ask for any of his paperwork (although I would definitely have it all anyway, *especially* the return ticket). He was here for 2 weeks in May and 2 weeks in February as well, but we hadn't yet filed the K1 at that point, and the entry in November was after the I-129f was approved.

The fact is, people make a big deal about "you can't be sure! It's all up to the officer!", and they're right to a point, but I have looked and looked and looked, and I have never seen a post from someone saying that their entry was denied. Even if someone manages to pull up the case to prove me wrong, it's clearly teh exception and not the rule.

In other words, I wouldn't worry (but if you're like me, I know you will anyway!)

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Actually there are plenty of people here who have been turned away at the POE, including people from Canada.

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Actually there are plenty of people here who have been turned away at the POE, including people from Canada.

I have seen quite a few, usually there has been a reason, actually can not think of one that was with hindsight not asking for trouble.

But a compared to those who have no issue, very very small.

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Thanks for all your responses. I'm still going to worry constantly about it, because, you know...but I think it's worth a try.

Neal (UK) and Cari (USA)

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I'm hoping to go to New Orleans to spend some time with Mel, and be there for Mardi Gras. I talked to Customs at the Airport. They were very nice to me. I was told to write a letter to them giving them details and where we are in the process,etc. That is done and now I am just waiting for Customs to get back to me with a decision.

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I would be really, really surprised if he were denied entry......

You would?

I don't mean to be a smarty pants, but it's the CBP officers that decide entry and not us here at VJ in our collective wisdom.

Always keep in mind that a turnback can cause further visa processing delays. Turnbacks create a security notation in airport entry records that will need checked out. Consulates can also request an additional visit by the beneficiary to the consulate to collect fingerprints for deeper security checks.

Your men may get in just fine. It's a gamble you have to weigh.

rebeccajo you love being a smarty pants....and you always seem to do such a great job of it :) Hope you had a wonderful holiday <3 Kelle

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I'm hoping to go to New Orleans to spend some time with Mel, and be there for Mardi Gras. I talked to Customs at the Airport. They were very nice to me. I was told to write a letter to them giving them details and where we are in the process,etc. That is done and now I am just waiting for Customs to get back to me with a decision.

Huh? It's the decision of the officer at the POE . . . Can't imagine why they told you to write them a letter with details or why they said they would get back to you with a decision. It will be interesting to see if you actually get a response.

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I'm hoping to go to New Orleans to spend some time with Mel, and be there for Mardi Gras. I talked to Customs at the Airport. They were very nice to me. I was told to write a letter to them giving them details and where we are in the process,etc. That is done and now I am just waiting for Customs to get back to me with a decision.

Huh? It's the decision of the officer at the POE . . . Can't imagine why they told you to write them a letter with details or why they said they would get back to you with a decision. It will be interesting to see if you actually get a response.

and Customs.....

Sounds like the boys were having some fun.

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My fiance just came to the states to visit me in December (I was with him, however). He was using up the last of his holiday, plus part of his new holiday. He brought with the following:

* Letter from employer (stating what he does, when he was hired, his salary, how often he works, that he is on holiday until January 7th)

* Copy of his lease agreement on the houseshare he lives in

* Copy of his "log book" for the car he owns in the UK

* Copy of our NOA1

He was given quite a hard time in Dublin (US Border point). They pulled him aside and asked him tons of questions, but we made sure he was very organized with all of his info. He was honest and upfront with them. In the end, they let him come through, but made sure he knew not to overstay because it would ruin his chances for our K1.

I should also add that he had previously been denied a tourist visa to the US, which is most likely the reason that he was flagged. However, I've heard of people without that scenario being given a hard time.

Just be nice no matter what, and always be honest.

Best of luck!

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but made sure he knew not to overstay because it would ruin his chances for our K1.
by more than 180 days I trust they added.

Ruin is probably a wrong word, complicate a better one.

Being refused a visa means he would have had to declare that at the PoE, and usually results in a grilling.

Dublin seem to be a harder PoE, but then not so far back if you get bounced.

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