Americans Would Rather Do Business With White People Than Black People

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Of course I wouldn't meet anyone that talked in slang regardless of their color. The original article talked about showing their skin color only.

Sure, as a black person many people hold me responsible for what other black people do all the time. That's why we constantly have to hear this 13% of the population 50% of the crimes mess because people like to use this crutch as an excuse to discriminate against black people as if 13% of the black population is committing crimes.

Thank you for saying that, because I did exactly that the other day. I felt guilty about telling the kid the rims were sold, and did a lot of introspection, but in the end I have to put my families safety first.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

Thank you for saying that, because I did exactly that the other day. I felt guilty about telling the kid the rims were sold, and did a lot of introspection, but in the end I have to put my families safety first.

So did the article say the black people called the buyers and talked slang?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

So did the article say the black people called the buyers and talked slang?

Dear god woman, we are on page 4.. OP's are irrelevant by page 3.. You aren't new here

[Karee 4,190]

The wrongly convicted issue is a concern. There are many possible reasons for it, not least that black people are often badly represented. This says more about the justice system than it does about racism to me though. I am sure in the past there were lots of wrongful convictions based on irrational fears of black people, but I don't think that's the most commonplace reason now. I think the mos common reason is poor representation in a system that is rather flawed in how it presents criminals in court.

Again I think that comes down to a financial issue more than a racial issue. The justice system is really, really rigged against people with no money in this country. Especially when it comes to getting a decent lawyer and being treated fairly by the courts. I've seen glaring examples of this in my personal life, and it had little do with race except for the fact that minorities are less like to be able to afford a decent lawyer, or a lawyer at all, due to their financial situation.

I'll give you an example of this problem. In the Federal courts here in the Northern District of Texas they rely on court appointed attorneys rather than a public defenders office. (At least that's how it was in the 80s.) Other federal court jurisdictions had public defenders on staff at ll times who's sole purpose was to defend indigent defendants. On the surface the difference may not seem like a big difference, but it is. In order to practice law in the federal courts in this district, you have to put your name in that hat for that court appointed attorney pool.

So the question becomes, if you're an indigent defendant, would you rather have someone defending you who's full time job is representing indigent clients, or some guy that HAS to do it, and is getting paid 5% of his normal hourly rate? In the latter case it's best for that lawyer to do everything he can to dispose of the case quickly (plea bargain) whether the person he is representing is guilty or not.

Edited June 1, 2014 by Karee

[Peikko 1,575]

Again I think that comes down to a financial issue more than a racial issue. The justice system is really, really rigged against people with no money in this country. Especially when it comes to getting a decent lawyer and being treated fairly by the courts. I've seen glaring examples of this in my personal life, and it had little do with race except for the fact that minorities are less like to be able to afford a decent lawyer, or a lawyer at all, due to their financial situation.

I'll giv you an example of this problem. In the Federal courts here in the Northern District of Texas they rely on court appointed attorneys rather than a public defenders office. (At least that's how it was in the 80s.) Other federal court jurisdictions had public defenders on staff at ll times who's sole purpose was to defend indigent defendants. On the surface the difference may not seem like a big difference, but it is. In order to practice law in the federal courts in this district, you have to put your name in that hat for that court appointed attorney pool.

So the question becomes, if you're an indigent defendant, would you rather have someone defending you who's full time job is representing indigent clients, or some guy that HAS to do it, and is getting paid 5% of his normal hourly rate? In the latter case it's best for that lawyer to do everything he can to dispose of the case quickly (plea bargain) whether the person he is representing is guilty or not.

I am sure that's true. i would like to see the political will to overhaul the justice system but no one will, it's too big, too complicated and too hidden from the political elite to worry about.

[Jacque67 7,328]

As a famous judge one said ( can't remember his name off-hand) "you can indict a ham sandwich "

[Janelle2002 3,865]

Dear god woman, we are on page 4.. OP's are irrelevant by page 3.. You aren't new here

You know I don't give up easily.

[eieio 1,594]

Where are the Asians or Indians or Latinos in this study?

That doesn't matter. If you still look at the raw numbers white people are committing no less crime that black people.

But on a percentage wise basis.....whites are much less likely to steal from you.

You need to be angry at the blacks who are committing crimes and causing problems for you......not the whites who are reacting to the fact the blacks are much more likely to be criminals(for whatever reason that is?)

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Where are the Asians or Indians or Latinos in this study?

But on a percentage wise basis.....whites are much less likely to steal from you.

You need to be angry at the blacks who are committing crimes and causing problems for you......not the whites who are reacting to the fact the blacks are much more likely to be criminals(for whatever reason that is?)

No, she shouldn't. Because Janelle is taking care of business. She, nor any other person of color should have to bear that burden. If that's the case, then you should have to take responsibility for any crime a white person commits.

[eieio 1,594]

If that's the case, then you should have to take responsibility for any crime a white person commits.

Who said anything about taking responsibility? I am just pointing out misplaced anger.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Who said anything about taking responsibility? I am just pointing out misplaced anger.

The issue is, when black people commit crime or do anything else for that matter, it affects all of us. Folks assume we're going to rob, beat or kill them based on just skin color alone. I've been called a big scary black dude before. And I'm as far removed from that as anyone can be.

[B_J 2,752]

So if there were only 2 white men in the U.S., one committed a crime and the other one did not, would it be fair to hold the non-criminal accountable for the crime the criminal committed. Even if they lived in two different freaking states and didn't even know each other?

If there were only 2 white men in the US (assuming that I'm not white and I don't know either one) and one was a criminal and one wasn't. I would not hold the innocent one responsible at all for what the criminal did.

But, if I met one of these two white men, I would be cautious because there's a 50% chance that he's a criminal.

To summarize, white men obviously are responsible for very little of the crime in the US (there's only 2); but if you meet a white man there is a very disproportionate chance that the person is a criminal.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

The issue is, when black people commit crime or do anything else for that matter, it affects all of us. Folks assume we're going to rob, beat or kill them based on just skin color alone. I've been called a big scary black dude before. And I'm as far removed from that as anyone can be.

You are a big scary black dude,

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

You are a big scary black dude,

I hate you.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I hate you.

Personal attack noted and filed away for future possible mod action, reference angry comment from big scary black dude, who oddly enough has a stunningly beautiful wife

Edited June 2, 2014 by The Nature Boy