Officials: Man interrupts store robbery, kills attacker

[Karee 4,190]

Does he have any foresight on when the army will be mobilized against the American populace? I need to make sure I've got my gun before that. Can you check and get back to me? I mean, I know we don't agree a lot but I'm not a criminal or anything so I don't think you'd want me to be a victim of the liberal government crack down looming on the horizon.

It's already begun. It started January, 20 2009.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Personally I think the point of the story was that someone went into a store, threatened other people's lives with a gun, an ended up dead for doing so. It would be nice to think that would be a deterrent to other people considering doing the same thing. That would probably be naive. However, one thing is for sure. The robber wont be harming anyone again, and that is a good thing.

Please stop being rational and logical. It does not go over well here.

[Peikko 1,575]

Oh, and what have we here? Oh yes, a fruitful addition to the discussion, not an attempt to incite the usual suspects, you wouldn't do that would you? It's only 'other people' who do that. Well done Spooks, the voice of the people speaks again!

Edited May 31, 2014 by The Truth™

[Pooky 3,782]

So the marine should just stand there and let the thug kill him. A loaded gun wag being pointed at him .

The reason the Marine had a gun pointed at him was because he intentionally placed himself in harm's way, presenting a firearm, and the soon-to-be ex-robber thought (rightly as it turns out) that he was a threat.

If the outcome had been reversed and the Marine had wound up dead, could the armed robber have claimed justifiable homicide, or self defence, when he was fired on first, by someone not identifying themselves as a law enforcement officer?

[lostinblue 1,989]

The reason the Marine had a gun pointed at him was because he intentionally placed himself in harm's way, presenting a firearm, and the soon-to-be ex-robber thought (rightly as it turns out) that he was a threat.

If the outcome had been reversed and the Marine had wound up dead, could the armed robber have claimed justifiable homicide, or self defence, when he was fired on first, by someone not identifying themselves as a law enforcement officer?

During the act of committing a crime (armed robbery) he claims self defense (a felony) Don't think so

[Sousuke 1,214]

The reason the Marine had a gun pointed at him was because he intentionally placed himself in harm's way, presenting a firearm, and the soon-to-be ex-robber thought (rightly as it turns out) that he was a threat.

If the outcome had been reversed and the Marine had wound up dead, could the armed robber have claimed justifiable homicide, or self defence, when he was fired on first, by someone not identifying themselves as a law enforcement officer?

Yeah thats not how the law works. The robber was already in the midst of committing multiple crimes. He probably also didn't legally own his firearm amoungst other things.

Edited May 31, 2014 by Brown Dwarf

[Pooky 3,782]

During the act of committing a crime (armed robbery) he claims self defense (a felony) Don't think so

Yeah thats not how the law works. The robber was already in the midst of committing multiple crimes. He probably also didn't legally own his firearm amoungst other things.

Can either of you give me a legal reason why not?

[Sousuke 1,214]

Can either of you give me a legal reason why not?

Here is Texas:

You can use deadly force, with no duty to retreat, when you reasonably believe that force is immediately needed to protect yourself from unlawful deadly force, aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery or aggravated robbery, so long as you are in a place you are legally allowed to be.

Where is it applicable:

Anywhere you legally have the right to be, so long as you are not engaged in unlawful conduct.

Once the robbers entered gamestop and began steeling goods / money etc they were engaged in unlawful conduct. Therefore they have no legal right to self defense.

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2012/04/us/table.selfdefense.laws/

[Pooky 3,782]

Here is Texas:

You can use deadly force, with no duty to retreat, when you reasonably believe that force is immediately needed to protect yourself from unlawful deadly force, aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery or aggravated robbery, so long as you are in a place you are legally allowed to be.

Where is it applicable:

Anywhere you legally have the right to be, so long as you are not engaged in unlawful conduct.

Once the robbers entered gamestop and began steeling goods / money etc they were engaged in unlawful conduct. Therefore they have no legal right to self defense.

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2012/04/us/table.selfdefense.laws/

Fair enough.

I just hope the next yahoo that tries this doesn't end up dead, or, worse still, killing an innocent bystander. The precedent set here is not a good one, even if the outcome was.

[GandD 5,966]

Oh, and what have we here? Oh yes, a fruitful addition to the discussion, not an attempt to incite the usual suspects, you wouldn't do that would you? It's only 'other people' who do that. Well done Spooks, the voice of the people speaks again!

Angry comment.

[Karee 4,190]

Angry comment.

You did it now. Prepare to reap the whirlwind.

[Peikko 1,575]

There's definitely a campaign of incitement. Apparently that's ok as long as those doing the inciting are members of the 'gang'.

[GandD 5,966]

There's definitely a campaign of incitement. Apparently that's ok as long as those doing the inciting are members of the 'gang'.

It's odd that you make the comments you do and feel that you're on the receiving end of a "campaign of incitement"

[spookyturtle 9,465]

It's odd that you make the comments you do and feel that you're on the receiving end of a "campaign of incitement"

[Peikko 1,575]

Yes, very odd. I point out the inherent hypocrisy in a post by your mate Spooky, the first comment in this topic that was entirely made to be provocative without adding anything to the discussion and lo and behold, the gang is out making pointless comments that have added nothing to the discussion. Carry on, this is making you guys look real grown up and big.