Manila Embassy Appointment Issues!!!!!!

[apple21 953]

No, i didn't do the CRBA yet. i didn't want to do 2 things at the same time. i was worried that if i do the CRBA and the K1 visa is in process it might complicate things. our file is already at the Manila Embassy. once the K1 is approved and they are here in the US, i will get her USC here.

regarding the AOS (I-134), when/where is that submitted? sorry, i got confused on the fees...looks like there's no filing fees. thanks again for your help.

The child will be denied the K2 visa because she has claim to US citizenship. You should file CRBA for her first.

If in the event that the CRBA is denied, that's the time you can chase the K2 or IR2.

Edited June 6, 2014 by apple21

[extrachicken71 0]

nevermind...i re-read it, looks like my fiance needs to bring it to the Manila Embassy interview. so much info and details...ugh.

The child will be denied the K2 visa because she has claim to US citizenship. You should file CRBA for her first.

If in the event that the CRBA is denied, that's the time you can chase the K2 or IR2.

are you sure about that? they have already approved the petition with my daughter already having my last name on her birth certificate. how do you know this?

i'm already deep into the K1 visa process.

Edited June 6, 2014 by mayno71

[Zedayn 485]

Your daughter is a US citizen by birth to you. You need to file a CRBA and get a US passport for your daughter.

Edited June 6, 2014 by Zedayn

[apple21 953]

nevermind...i re-read it, looks like my fiance needs to bring it to the Manila Embassy interview. so much info and details...ugh.

are you sure about that? they have already approved the petition with my daughter already having my last name on her birth certificate. how do you know this?

i'm already deep into the K1 visa process.

Yes I'm sure because the Embassy will not grant a visa to a US citizen (unless they deny your CRBA). That's why its advisable to file CRBA first. If you're having doubts, call the US Embassy.

[extrachicken71 0]

Yes I'm sure because the Embassy will not grant a visa to a US citizen (unless they deny your CRBA). That's why its advisable to file CRBA first. If you're having doubts, call the US Embassy.

she's technically not a US citizen yet, and she already has a Philippines passport. i just checked the CRBA appt calendar and there's nothing available for several months. gezz, this is getting overwhelming. our file is already at the Manila embassy, i wish the NVC figured this out before sending it to the embassy.

[apple21 953]

she's technically not a US citizen yet, and she already has a Philippines passport. i just checked the CRBA appt calendar and there's nothing available for several months. gezz, this is getting overwhelming. our file is already at the Manila embassy, i wish the NVC figured this out before sending it to the embassy.

Your daughter is a US citizen by birth UNLESS proven otherwise. That's the premise. Now, NVC doesn't scrutinize K1 applications unlike they do to immigrant visa applications because all they provide for K1 is the case numbers then transmit it to the local embassies.

USEM is the one whose going to check all your paperwork.

[extrachicken71 0]

i need to speak to someone at the embassy about this but all i get is automated recordings. is there a consulate or a place in Los Angeles where i can go in person to speak with regarding my case? all i see is passport locations.

[JRluvsLhyn 0]

Your daughter is a US citizen by birth UNLESS proven otherwise. That's the premise. Now, NVC doesn't scrutinize K1 applications unlike they do to immigrant visa applications because all they provide for K1 is the case numbers then transmit it to the local embassies.

USEM is the one whose going to check all your paperwork.

for Mayno71, I personally gone through the same process and it was overwhelming dealing with both. My son was born in the Philippines with U.S. Citizen father but we filed K3 and K4. Once our petition got approved that's when we found out about CRBA but it was taking forever back and forth so many times of trips to the embassy so I gave up and told the consulate that I have to pursue with the K4 for my son since our paper was already approved and our interview is few days away so they don't have a choice but to honor my request even though they were saying that they cannot issue a visa to a U.S. Citizen and I told them that our Petition was already approved and I choose to proceed with K4. I deal with many people inside the embassy couple of times including a phone call from my husband to a U.S consular officer about CRBA because they are pursuing us this way but because of limited time away from our interview,I stand firm with my decision to proceed with the K4 and they finally said ok and yes child interview schedule will be the same time with the mother. During our interview we were told that We are approved and had given a green card with a stamp IV Approved...We enter U.S.A. as K3 and K4 and soon as we got here that's when we process our son's U.S. Passport Edited June 7, 2014 by JRluvsLhyn

[extrachicken71 0]

for Mayno71, I personally gone through the same process and it was overwhelming dealing with both. My son was born in the Philippines with U.S. Citizen father but we filed K3 and K4. Once our petition got approved that's when we found out about CRBA but it was taking forever back and forth so many times of trips to the embassy so I gave up and told the consulate that I have to pursue with the K4 for my son since our paper was already approved and our interview is few days away so they don't have a choice but to honor my request even though they were saying that they cannot issue a visa to a U.S. Citizen and I told them that our Petition was already approved and I choose to proceed with K4. I deal with many people inside the embassy couple of times including a phone call from my husband to a U.S consular officer about CRBA because they are pursuing us this way but because of limited time away from our interview,I stand firm with my decision to proceed with the K4 and they finally said ok and yes child interview schedule will be the same time with the mother. During our interview we were told that We are approved and had given a green card with a stamp IV Approved...We enter U.S.A. as K3 and K4 and soon as we got here that's when we process our son's U.S. Passport

hi JRluvsLhyn,

so this means there is still hope for me, right? the NVC sent our file to the Manila embassy already on May 29, so i would imagine they already have my file by now, we completed the DS-260 as well last week. so we are already far along in the process. we just need to make an appointment.

what number did your husband call to contact the US Consular Office? Can you please give me that number? did they give you approval over the phone to proceed with K3 instead of having to do a CRBA?

sorry for so many questions, but i really want to avoid doing the CRBA and want to proceed with the K1/K2. i'm in the same situation as you although we don't have an interview appointment yet or the medical exam.

thanks again for replying to my post...you have given me hope.

Edited June 7, 2014 by mayno71

[JRluvsLhyn 0]

hi JRluvsLhyn,

so this means there is still hope for me, right? the NVC sent our file to the Manila embassy already on May 29, so i would imagine they already have my file, we completed the DS-260 as well last week. so we are already far along in the process. we just need to make an appointment.

what number did your husband call to contact the US Consular Office? Can you please give me that number? did they give you approval over the phone to proceed with K3 instead of having to do a CRBA?

sorry for so many questions, but i really want to avoid doing the CRBA and want to proceed with the K1/K2. i'm in the same situation as you although we don't have an interview appointment yet or the medical exam.

thanks again for replying to my post...you have given me hope.

Yes you still can proceed with the K1/K2. I am sure they will tell you the same thing that they cannot issue a visa to a u.s. citizen for your child but be firm that you are pursuing this since you already have approved papers for K1/K2 and will be choosing this route. My husband spoke to the officer while I was there at (ACS) american citizen services 523-1001 ext 2335 however, this was way long ago am not sure if they still have the same number. The ACS vice consul give me a certification and he put in there that I have insufficient requirements for CRBA since we did not submit anything and did not proceed with this route therefore, they let me proceed with K4 and I still have to arm rustle with the other fellow in there. They told me in person that yes I can go ahead and proceed with the K visa after I kept arguing why would they approved our petition if they know that they cannot issue a visa to my child. Even at the day of my interview, the filipino guy inside the embassy still giving me a hard time but after I ask for his supervisor, they let me proceed to the window for my final stop the visa consular officer. It wasn't easy but We did it...Good luck!

[extrachicken71 0]

Yes you still can proceed with the K1/K2. I am sure they will tell you the same thing that they cannot issue a visa to a u.s. citizen for your child but be firm that you are pursuing this since you already have approved papers for K1/K2 and will be choosing this route. My husband spoke to the officer while I was there at (ACS) american citizen services 523-1001 ext 2335 however, this was way long ago am not sure if they still have the same number. The ACS vice consul give me a certification and he put in there that I have insufficient requirements for CRBA since we did not submit anything and did not proceed with this route therefore, they let me proceed with K4 and I still have to arm rustle with the other fellow in there. They told me in person that yes I can go ahead and proceed with the K visa after I kept arguing why would they approved our petition if they know that they cannot issue a visa to my child. Even at the day of my interview, the filipino guy inside the embassy still giving me a hard time but after I ask for his supervisor, they let me proceed to the window for my final stop the visa consular officer. It wasn't easy but We did it...Good luck!

Thank you.

So the ACS vice consul gave you a certification? What do you mean by that? Did he place that certification in your VISA file so that the consular officer would review it?

My only concern is that my fiance is a bit shy and timid. i'm worried that she won't stand firm to them stating that they need to let her proceed with K1/K2 because they didn't catch it during the review (that a CRBA is necessary). Oh gezz, this is becoming very stressful. Was your husband allowed to go w/ you to the embassy and attend the interview with you?

Do you think at this point it's best to talk to the vice consul and see what they recommend OR should we just proceed and tell them we want to proceed with K1/K2? i hope i can be there in person because i have no problem being firm about this.

any advice would be appreciated...thanks again!

[JRluvsLhyn 0]

Thank you.

So the ACS vice consul gave you a certification? What do you mean by that? Did he place that certification in your VISA file so that the consular officer would review it?

My only concern is that my fiance is a bit shy and timid. i'm worried that she won't stand firm to them stating that they need to let her proceed with K1/K2 because they didn't catch it during the review (that a CRBA is necessary). Oh gezz, this is becoming very stressful. Was your husband allowed to go w/ you to the embassy and attend the interview with you?

Do you think at this point it's best to talk to the vice consul and see what they recommend OR should we just proceed and tell them we want to proceed with K1/K2? i hope i can be there in person because i have no problem being firm about this.

any advice would be appreciated...thanks again!

Talk to the ACS. I had to get the certification first from the vice consul from ACS so I can proceed with the K visa. CRBA requirements are pretty much easy to get like I said you might way it down since you don't have interview appt. as of yet. No my husband wasn't with us during the interview only me and my son

[apple21 953]

Yes you still can proceed with the K1/K2. I am sure they will tell you the same thing that they cannot issue a visa to a u.s. citizen for your child but be firm that you are pursuing this since you already have approved papers for K1/K2 and will be choosing this route. My husband spoke to the officer while I was there at (ACS) american citizen services 523-1001 ext 2335 however, this was way long ago am not sure if they still have the same number. The ACS vice consul give me a certification and he put in there that I have insufficient requirements for CRBA since we did not submit anything and did not proceed with this route therefore, they let me proceed with K4 and I still have to arm rustle with the other fellow in there. They told me in person that yes I can go ahead and proceed with the K visa after I kept arguing why would they approved our petition if they know that they cannot issue a visa to my child. Even at the day of my interview, the filipino guy inside the embassy still giving me a hard time but after I ask for his supervisor, they let me proceed to the window for my final stop the visa consular officer. It wasn't easy but We did it...Good luck!

The "certification" that they gave you is the CRBA DENIAL, that's why they let you pursue the visa for the child.

The same thing with mayno71, they have to have their CRBA denied as well before USEM will issue a visa for the child.

[JRluvsLhyn 0]

The "certification" that they gave you is the CRBA DENIAL, that's why they let you pursue the visa for the child.

The same thing with mayno71, they have to have their CRBA denied as well before USEM will issue a visa for the child.

Nope the denial box wasn't checked...You cannot deny something that you did not file right? The certification was just saying that the U.S. Citizen parent lack(s) the desire to pursue the child U.S. citizenship claim. Edited June 11, 2014 by JRluvsLhyn

[extrachicken71 0]

Nope the denial box wasn't checked...You cannot deny something that you did not file right? The certification was just saying that the U.S. Citizen parent lack(s) the desire to pursue the child U.S. citizenship claim.

I emailed IVManilaReplies@state.gov stating that i did not want to pursue the US citizenship claim and wanted to proceed with the K2 process. apparently, it takes about 5 business days to get a reply. hopefully, they can email me the certification or attach this certification to my fiance's file at the embassy. crossing my fingers on this because the call center rep i talked to would not transfer me to a vice consul and said i needed to email only.