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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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There is a fact missing somewhere, I think. I have never heard of when you got engaged to be even relevant. I wish I could see all of the paperwork. Do you have something that you could scan and send to me in a jpg file or something.

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
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ok well all they gave him was that paper and the extra evidence. also they have the wrong date written on the 221(g) . after reading what everyone said we went over it again I got the fax he sent me and it's just this paper my birth certificate and the extra evidence they held on to everything else. does that help. and for everyone else who is saying there is more to it sorry that's all I have.

The wrong date (as per your pm stated it was dated the day before the interview) could indicate that the CO had his mind made up

already before the interview as often happens. Pure speculation on my part and it may just have been a mistake and not matter at all.

It may be something to work with for a lawyer or senator though.

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I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Jamaica
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I don't think what everyone is saying is correct...I think it depends on the officer because my fiance and I got engaged December of 2012...my divorce was finalized in may of 2013 and I filed the k1 in June of 2013 and we never had any problems. .my ex and I was separated for a while before the divorce was finalized...so they shouldn't care when you got engaged as long as you were divorced before filing the documents..

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NigeriaorBust asked back on page 3 and I was wondering when I first read the topic is what US state did you get divorced in? Some states have a waiting period after you get divorced to marry again or file for a K1 visa since you would not be free to marry if you were in that window. You might want to do a google search for the state you divorced in and if there is a waiting period.

AOS Journey

11-04-2011 sent AOS to Chicago lockbox

11-07-2011 delivered

11-08-2011 Date on text messages but did not receive until 11-22-2011

11-23-2011 Check cashed.

11-25-2011 Hard copies of NOA1s

12-06-2012 Pui's Brother unexpectly passes away and we make an info pass appointment and receive an emergancy AP so she can return home. Pui leaves for Thailand for 2 weeks.

12-06-2012 Get a text message and email that she received an RFE

12-12-2012 RFE for original birth certificate. I swear we sent it along with a certificate translation of it.

12-20-2012 Pui returns from Thailand.

12-21-2012 We send the RFE back for with original birth certificate along with a new certificate of translation(I had to wait for her to return for her to sign)

12-26-2012 text and email they have received the RFE.

12-29-2012 Appointment for biometrics is 01-23-2012

01-13-2012 AP is approved.

01-23-2012 Biometrics appointment. Later during the evening the text and email saying the EAD is approved.

01-31-2012 EAD/AP combo card arrives.

05-22-2012 Email and text card is in production!

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NigeriaorBust asked back on page 3 and I was wondering when I first read the topic is what US state did you get divorced in? Some states have a waiting period after you get divorced to marry again or file for a K1 visa since you would not be free to marry if you were in that window. You might want to do a google search for the state you divorced in and if there is a waiting period.

Kentucky
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In Kentucky there is no waiting period.

AOS Journey

11-04-2011 sent AOS to Chicago lockbox

11-07-2011 delivered

11-08-2011 Date on text messages but did not receive until 11-22-2011

11-23-2011 Check cashed.

11-25-2011 Hard copies of NOA1s

12-06-2012 Pui's Brother unexpectly passes away and we make an info pass appointment and receive an emergancy AP so she can return home. Pui leaves for Thailand for 2 weeks.

12-06-2012 Get a text message and email that she received an RFE

12-12-2012 RFE for original birth certificate. I swear we sent it along with a certificate translation of it.

12-20-2012 Pui returns from Thailand.

12-21-2012 We send the RFE back for with original birth certificate along with a new certificate of translation(I had to wait for her to return for her to sign)

12-26-2012 text and email they have received the RFE.

12-29-2012 Appointment for biometrics is 01-23-2012

01-13-2012 AP is approved.

01-23-2012 Biometrics appointment. Later during the evening the text and email saying the EAD is approved.

01-31-2012 EAD/AP combo card arrives.

05-22-2012 Email and text card is in production!

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In Kentucky there is no waiting period.

I know that. that is why I am confuse....as to why it was even in issue I spoke to a few lawyers who told me the fact that she have the date writen wrong is in issue but I just have to wait because the ceac status is still saying ready for interview and the paper does not say denial it is just refused, and they told me that it could just be the fact that the CO feels like its adultery and that this has been happening a lot in the port au prince embassy lately.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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You sent me a copy of the document that they sent you off line, but because it is of general interest. I am replying online.

You were denied because of section 221 B of the Immigration Law. Section 221B makes no mention of engagements. Section 221B allows Immigration to deny an application on the grounds that they requested additional information and the additional information was not submitted. The form is in a language other than English so I can't tell what they told you that you could do about it. It is possible that you could submit the requested information and ask them to reconsider, I am not sure. They didn't get a crucial piece of information but might let you submit it now rather than make you completely refile. I am sure that it is a denial without prejudice, which means that you could refile.

I wonder if language didn't complicate this. I asked you for more information off line and will read it in the morning.

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
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I know that. that is why I am confuse....as to why it was even in issue I spoke to a few lawyers who told me the fact that she have the date writen wrong is in issue but I just have to wait because the ceac status is still saying ready for interview and the paper does not say denial it is just refused, and they told me that it could just be the fact that the CO feels like its adultery and that this has been happening a lot in the port au prince embassy lately.

Yes, I thought the wrong date issue would interest the lawyers.

The CEAC status will not say 'denied' because a CO can not deny, only refuse so don't look to see 'denied'.

If they will not approve it they will return it and USCIS will expire it, it will not be denied in technical terms.

I believe the CO has made his discretionary judgement based on his personal assumptions and speculations of a possible fraud indicator

and just ran with it.

I hope a senatorial inquiry with the chief consul may get you a second and fairer interview.

Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

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Yes, I thought the wrong date issue would interest the lawyers.

The CEAC status will not say 'denied' because a CO can not deny, only refuse so don't look to see 'denied'.

If they will not approve it they will return it and USCIS will expire it, it will not be denied in technical terms.

I believe the CO has made his discretionary judgement based on his personal assumptions and speculations of a possible fraud indicator

and just ran with it.

I hope a senatorial inquiry with the chief consul may get you a second and fairer interview.

I have done the advice that you gave to me and am waiting for a response. I spoke to the President of my school regarding it, since she knew the hardship i went through to get my divorce and she sent an email to the Senator, and I am praying that we get and answer soon.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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I am guessing that there was a hearing at the consulate, they told the beneficiary that they still needed something and the beneficiary wasn't clear what they still needed to do. Did both parties establish that they were free to marry? That could be it. The hearing officer might have thought, rightly or wrongly, that there was an unconcluded marriage somewhere. I am still guessing because I haven't seen a lot of paperwork.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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How would a second interview change things?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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Off line she told me that there was a hearing that the fiance appeared at. She is going to contact the beneficiary. I think that is where things went wrong. The beneficiary might not have understood that he didn't have all of the things that he needed and was being asked to produce them. It is the middle of the night where the beneficiary is.

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yes they have all of the paperwork needed to show proof that we were both free to marry. and as for as other paperwork, this is the only paper that was given to him after the interview, and also even with the packet 4 nothing was said to be needed it was just one piece of paper.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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A second interview would be an opportunity to supply the missing information and get the visa approved, assuming that the petition isn't irretrievably dead.

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