FRONT LOADING AT US EMBASSY LAGOS

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

but what does one do when even on VJ we have divergent views on whether the petitioner/beneficiary/attorney can send extra evidence after a case has already been sent to the embassy.

Simple question if you were scheduled for your interview in lagos and you have extra evidence that came up after you had already concluded with USCIS/NVC

what would YOU do? "frontload" or carry along to interview and hope for best?

I have not seen one comment here where someone stated that you can send relationship evidence by mail to the embassy before an interview.

Where do you get that VJ members advice such ? Show me one comment !

[doshi 1]

Faith without works is dead. The bolded part is the point of this topic .... have they done all they can do. Questions were

asked, misunderstood and OP seems to seek assurance and soothing rather than facts as he fights against facts.

In your context i VEHEMENTLY DISAGREE WITH YOU!

it is not possible to frontload evidence of future years so if for instance wife has visited twice before marriage and IF case has been completed at nvc and we missed the opportunity to send more stuffs to nvc as many things has happaned in our relationship.

does it mean then that we never "worked"?

INDEED WE HAVE DONE ALL WE NEEDED TO DO AT THE TIME OF FILING AND PRESENTED EVIDENCE WE HAD!

it is only logical and normal that a man eats after he has seemingly done a hard day's work?

[dwheels76 5,468]

This is how I look at it, when you read the instructions provide the information

they are requesting. If you feel that the information your providing is satisfying

the requirements do it!. I did not front load my petition, So, I read the instructions

about 10 times to make sure that I was supplying the information to supplement the application and submitted it without any problems. Working for the federal government, Ive learned

that the instructions are pretty specific, if you supply the information they

are requesting you shouldn't have any problems. Because you meet the application

requirements. Good Luck! but,every embassy is different. So, check out specifics for

the embassy you will be using.

So you are telling people to just "Meet requirements". Yet the I-130 instructions clearly say.

What Documents Do You Need to Prove Family

Relationship?

NOTE:

In addition to the required documentation

listed above, you should submit one or more of the

following types of documentation that may evidence

the bona fides of your marriage;

Documentation showing joint ownership or property; or

A lease showing joint tenancy of a common residence;

or

Documentation showing co-mingling of financial

resources; or

Birth certificate(s) of child(ren) born to you, the

petitioner, and your spouse together; or

Affidavits sworn to or affirmed by third parties having

personal knowledge of the bona fides of the marital

relationship. (Each affidavit must contain the full name

and address, date and place of birth of the person

making the affidavit, his or her relationship to the

petitioner of beneficiary, if any, and complete

information and details explaining how the person

acquired his or her knowledge of your marriage); or

Any other relevant documentation to establish that

there is an ongoing marital union

I bolded the last because this is left up to you to show what you deem to show. As we know the government is slow to update or change. The I-130 form as far as the co-mingling you see is directed more towards couples who live together (ie. before they immigrated or when they are going through removal of conditions). It wasn't targetd towards the new age.

Cuz Wham the internet revolution happened and now we have emails, and chats, and IM's and Skype a whole new world of evidence and fakery.

I don't know where people get you aren't suppose to send anything when that's what USCIS accepts. Sure I know a few Lagos folk who sent NOTHING but a marriage certificate and of course lazy USCIS approved them send them on their way but guess when interview time came they were ALL denied. Sent back reaffirm all but a couple (other issues they had) but still a lost of an additional year.

I know thats not what you want to hear you want sunshine and unicorns. Well This is Lagos. By the way they all prayed and know God.

I believe OP you got plenty of good advice by the best VJ has to offer. Take it with what you want. We await your review June 11th.

[doshi 1]

I have not seen one comment here where someone stated that you can send relationship evidence by mail to the embassy before an interview.

Where do you get that VJ members advice such ? Show me one comment !

dweels and amysummer read tru second page and first

[doshi 1]

So you are telling people to just "Meet requirements". Yet the I-130 instructions clearly say.

What Documents Do You Need to Prove Family

Relationship?

NOTE:

In addition to the required documentation

listed above, you should submit one or more of the

following types of documentation that may evidence

the bona fides of your marriage;

Documentation showing joint ownership or property; or

A lease showing joint tenancy of a common residence;

or

Documentation showing co-mingling of financial

resources; or

Birth certificate(s) of child(ren) born to you, the

petitioner, and your spouse together; or

Affidavits sworn to or affirmed by third parties having

personal knowledge of the bona fides of the marital

relationship. (Each affidavit must contain the full name

and address, date and place of birth of the person

making the affidavit, his or her relationship to the

petitioner of beneficiary, if any, and complete

information and details explaining how the person

acquired his or her knowledge of your marriage); or

Any other relevant documentation to establish that

there is an ongoing marital union

I bolded the last because this is left up to you to show what you deem to show. As we know the government is slow to update or change. The I-130 form as far as the co-mingling you see is directed more towards couples who live together (ie. before they immigrated or when they are going through removal of conditions). It wasn't targetd towards the new age.

Cuz Wham the internet revolution happened and now we have emails, and chats, and IM's and Skype a whole new world of evidence and fakery.

I don't know where people get you aren't suppose to send anything when that's what USCIS accepts. Sure I know a few Lagos folk who sent NOTHING but a marriage certificate and of course lazy USCIS approved them send them on their way but guess when interview time came they were ALL denied. Sent back reaffirm all but a couple (other issues they had) but still a lost of an additional year.

I know thats not what you want to hear you want sunshine and unicorns. Well This is Lagos. By the way they all prayed and know God.

I believe OP you got plenty of good advice by the best VJ has to offer. Take it with what you want. We await your review June 11th.

you will see!!!

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

In your context i VEHEMENTLY DISAGREE WITH YOU!

it is not possible to frontload evidence of future years so if for instance wife has visited twice before marriage and IF case has been completed at nvc and we missed the opportunity to send more stuffs to nvc as many things has happaned in our relationship.

does it mean then that we never "worked"?

INDEED WE HAVE DONE ALL WE NEEDED TO DO AT THE TIME OF FILING AND PRESENTED EVIDENCE WE HAD!

it is only logical and normal that a man eats after he has seemingly done a hard day's work?

I did not say that you can frontload the future.

I detect comprehension problems.

Any ONGOING relationship evidence, like visits, more photos and all communication that happen after your initial USCIS and NVC

submission, you hand carry (not send) to the embassy on the day of your interview in hopes that the CO will accept it,

sometimes they do and sometimes they don't, there is no rigid 'procedure' you think will work for you.

Beware, not all men get to eat after work even though they should, because the bread is not in their own hand. It is given to them

or not given, depending if the boss liked your completed work.

[doshi 1]

I did not say that you can frontload the future.

I detect comprehension problems.

Any ONGOING relationship evidence, like visits, more photos and all communication that happen after your initial USCIS and NVC

submission, you hand carry (not send) to the embassy on the day of your interview in hopes that the CO will accept it,

sometimes they do and sometimes they don't, there is no rigid 'procedure' you think will work for you.

Beware, not all men get to eat after work even though they should, because the bread is not in their own hand. It is given to them

or not given, depending if the boss liked your completed work.

do u have direct experience of how it went during your time as your timeline shows "denied"

the smiley of you hitting my head really cracked me up. Goood job.

There is God who always gives those who have worked!

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

dweels and amysummer read tru second page and first

Post the comment. These posters you mentioned did NOT say to send evidence to the embassy.

Let us clarify one thing here:

When you say SEND it to the embassy it implies sending it through the mail or email as an attachment.

If you interpret "sending" is the same as hand carrying on the day of interview then of course you can. That is called

bringing or carrying not sending.

[doshi 1]

Post the comment. These posters you mentioned did NOT say to send evidence to the embassy.

Let us clarify one thing here:

When you say SEND it to the embassy it implies sending it through the mail or email as an attachment.

If you interpret "sending" is the same as hand carrying on the day of interview then of course you can. That is called

bringing or carrying not sending.

can dweels and amy confirm their stand.

Would you rather send( which was what i meant) more evidence by mail to embassy after ur case has been closed by Nvc?

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

do u have direct experience of how it went during your time as your timeline shows "denied"

the smiley of you hitting my head really cracked me up. Goood job.

There is God who always gives those who have worked!

Yes I do have 9 years experience with the process and in addition to that were naturalized myself. Is that sufficient for you ?

Yes, there is a God who gives in His time, not ours, he is not on a time schedule and not a microwave oven with instant gratification

as we would like sometimes.

I am out. Got no time for this.

Cheers !

[AmyWrites 593]

I might regret posting this, but I know someone who was a CO at Lagos (and at other consulates too, high fraud and lower fraud), and since I considered going that career route, I had lunch with her, discussing what it's like to be a CO.

She confirms Lagos is the worst in terms of scammers, and denials.

But relevant to VJ people, YES, please front load, especially K-1's, as the odds are not in your favor for K-1's.

[doshi 1]

I might regret posting this, but I know someone who was a CO at Lagos (and at other consulates too, high fraud and lower fraud), and since I considered going that career route, I had lunch with her, discussing what it's like to be a CO.

She confirms Lagos is the worst in terms of scammers, and denials.

But relevant to VJ people, YES, please front load, especially K-1's, as the odds are not in your favor for K-1's.

yes k-1s have a harder time with proving bonafide relationship

[doshi 1]

yes k-1s have a harder time with proving bonafide relationship

any specifics as to IR1/CR1 filers.

anyone with statistics on the figures of those who applied under this category in past years to those who got it so we can really debunk this issue of lagos embassy been a high fraud consulate?

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

any specifics as to IR1/CR1 filers.

anyone with statistics on the figures of those who applied under this category in past years to those who got it so we can really debunk this issue of lagos embassy been a high fraud consulate?

Seriously...what are you smoking ? This is a thread from the twilight zone.

[AmyWrites 593]

any specifics as to IR1/CR1 filers.

anyone with statistics on the figures of those who applied under this category in past years to those who got it so we can really debunk this issue of lagos embassy been a high fraud consulate?

Lagos IS a high fraud consulate. *Maybe* Casablanca is on the same level.