FRONT LOADING AT US EMBASSY LAGOS

[dwheels76 5,468]

Now you getting where am drifting at!!!

is it right for someone to frontload after case has been sent to embassy????

Think you are missing the whole point. Seems you guys are dead set against sending evidence that's your choice. Roll the dice and play the odds.

There's no front-loading after the horse has left the stable (USCIS). Your case file goes to the embassy after its processed at NVC and you are scheduled an interview.

The questions asked are based on the evidence presented. I have yet to hear of anyone through Lagos who was approved with presenting nothing?

Front-loading became a big thing for Lagos and other high-fraud countries because of how people were treated at interviews. Many complaining they had brought boatloads of evidence and CO wouldn't look at or consider. Yes many of these people like you thought no evidence was required to send with petition and all was to be brought to interview.

People send in extra at the NVC at times because they have a trip to add more quality evidence. And yes some find out "OMG I sent in nothing I better do it now" which is risky because it may look like you are trying to skip over USCIS and present something they might have rejected or denied. I know of someone who was denied at embassy for that very fact but they were trying to side add divorce decree they didn't add at USCIS and other rubbish.

It's up to you to present your bonafide relationship however you want. This is Lagos you are dealing with which is no small thing. But it can be easy and effortless when you follow instructions and guidance of others who have gone before you and been there done that.

Like I said I have yet to read one person say they were approved at Lagos Consulate and presented nothing.

Edited May 23, 2014 by dwheels76

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

Hi Vjers,

i know this topic has been long over flogged but my question is who(the petitioner/attorney/beneficiary) should send the paperwork/evidence to the embassy?

how important is this front loading and is it legally/morally right to do it? since the beneficiary will take evidence along to interview anyway or is it a case of share proactiveness?

this link http://www.nairaland.com/1746138/u.s-immigration-questions-ask-u.s#23494455 shows it maynt be necessary as documentary evidence especially for spousal marriage is the least emphasis rather questions on knowledgeability of the spouse is most important.

what are your views guys?????

Front loading pertains to your initial petition send to USCIS only and very necessary for Lagos. Period.

Side loading is sending items to NVC.

You should never send anything to the embassy.

You take well rounded evidence to the interview depicting your genuine bona fide relationship. No fillers,no junk just a good

flow of the relationship from the beginning to current and much more than at other embassies.

NO.....Knowledge of the spouse is not MORE important than document evidence.

It is ALL important and puts together the whole picture.

If you lack in either you will be in trouble.

Your understanding of what was advised here is heavily clouded by your own opinion.

Be objective because what you think you heard was not said at all.

[doshi 1]

Also correct. The Consular Officer might hand you a paper that says your petition will be returned to USCIS, but it will get there by way of NVC and not quickly either.

You are getting help from people who actually know how the process works. You would be wise to read, comprehend, believe, then act accordingly rather than to argue.

so your point is evidence not sent during petition especially when the case has been sent to the embassy need not be sent to the embassy by parties asides Nvc/Uscis?

[doshi 1]

Front loading pertains to your initial petition send to USCIS only and very necessary for Lagos. Period.

Side loading is sending items to NVC.

You should never send anything to the embassy.

You take well rounded evidence to the interview depicting your genuine bona fide relationship. No fillers,no junk just a good

flow of the relationship from the beginning to current and much more than at other embassies.

NO.....Knowledge of the spouse is not MORE important than document evidence.

It is ALL important and puts together the whole picture.

If you lack in either you will be in trouble.

Your understanding of what was advised here is heavily clouded by your own opinion.

Be objective because what you think you heard was not said at all.

well said and noted

[doshi 1]

Think you are missing the whole point. Seems you guys are dead set against sending evidence that's your choice. Roll the dice and play the odds.

There's no front-loading after the horse has left the stable (USCIS). Your case file goes to the embassy after its processed at NVC and you are scheduled an interview.

The questions asked are based on the evidence presented. I have yet to hear of anyone through Lagos who was approved with presenting nothing?

Front-loading became a big thing for Lagos and other high-fraud countries because of how people were treated at interviews. Many complaining they had brought boatloads of evidence and CO wouldn't look at or consider. Yes many of these people like you thought no evidence was required to send with petition and all was to be brought to interview.

People send in extra at the NVC at times because they have a trip to add more quality evidence. And yes some find out "OMG I sent in nothing I better do it now" which is risky because it may look like you are trying to skip over USCIS and present something they might have rejected or denied. I know of someone who was denied at embassy for that very fact but they were trying to side add divorce decree they didn't add at USCIS and other rubbish.

It's up to you to present your bonafide relationship however you want. This is Lagos you are dealing with which is no small thing. But it can be easy and effortless when you follow instructions and guidance of others who have gone before you and been there done that.

Like I said I have yet to read one person say they were approved at Lagos Consulate and presented nothing.

juxtapose all you just said with what pushbrk et al have said its so CONFUSING especially coming from respected people on VJ.

Am really confused!!!!!!!1

[pushbrk 12,892]

so your point is evidence not sent during petition especially when the case has been sent to the embassy need not be sent to the embassy by parties asides Nvc/Uscis?

Please stop interpreting my words other than literally. I said what I said. It does not meant what you wrote above. Yes, "sending" to the IV unit is done by NVC. USCIS does NOT send anything directly to the IV unit at a Consulate or Embassy and unless specifically requested to do so, neither does anybody else, for any reason. I did not use the word "need" in anything I wrote. I was more precise and direct than that, for good reason.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

so your point is evidence not sent during petition especially when the case has been sent to the embassy need not be sent to the embassy by parties asides Nvc/Uscis?

Evidence CAN NOT be SEND to the embassy.

You CARRY it there for the interview.

That is a fact not just someone's opinion.

What evidence do you carry there ? A well rounded stack depicting your bona fide relationship from day one when you met

to current.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

Rather than giving feedback of what you thought you heard it may be best if you just ask the questions you want answered

and do not mix your own opinion with it. That way there is less confusion.

[amysummer13 7]

To me, it's all about choice. It doesn't make a difference and shouldn't raise any flag. Send what you have whenever you chose to. it's an option. Why worry about issues where there's none? Fraud can happen at any point.

[doshi 1]

To me, it's all about choice. It doesn't make a difference and shouldn't raise any flag. Send what you have whenever you chose to. it's an option. Why worry about issues where there's none? Fraud can happen at any point.

thats a relief!!

[doug/sherry 26]

This is how I look at it, when you read the instructions provide the information

they are requesting. If you feel that the information your providing is satisfying

the requirements do it!. I did not front load my petition, So, I read the instructions

about 10 times to make sure that I was supplying the information to supplement the application and submitted it without any problems. Working for the federal government, Ive learned

that the instructions are pretty specific, if you supply the information they

are requesting you shouldn't have any problems. Because you meet the application

requirements. Good Luck! but,every embassy is different. So, check out specifics for

the embassy you will be using.

[doshi 1]

i feel like some answers have come so harsh like i am being bullied to accept the answers.

I just may be another slow learner who needs details and some bit of back and forth before understanding is instilled

Now i understand that frontloading isnt techicaly an "official" term as per immigration just some make up by petitioners in the visa process.

I would rather follow what the law says wait for the questions to come during interview based on what was officially sent by the immigration institutions to the embassy as at time of filling and hope the CO ask for more current evidence as per what is stated on their site then i present other than that with "everything been equal" any genuine relationship that God has sanctioned is their time to be together will be approved.

what baffles me sometimes is why SOME and i MEAN some CO's still base their judgement on past interviews of genuinely sham relationships thereby jeopardizing outcomes of genuine ones

[doshi 1]

Think you are missing the whole point. Seems you guys are dead set against sending evidence that's your choice. Roll the dice and play the odds.

There's no front-loading after the horse has left the stable (USCIS). Your case file goes to the embassy after its processed at NVC and you are scheduled an interview.

The questions asked are based on the evidence presented. I have yet to hear of anyone through Lagos who was approved with presenting nothing?

Front-loading became a big thing for Lagos and other high-fraud countries because of how people were treated at interviews. Many complaining they had brought boatloads of evidence and CO wouldn't look at or consider. Yes many of these people like you thought no evidence was required to send with petition and all was to be brought to interview.

People send in extra at the NVC at times because they have a trip to add more quality evidence. And yes some find out "OMG I sent in nothing I better do it now" which is risky because it may look like you are trying to skip over USCIS and present something they might have rejected or denied. I know of someone who was denied at embassy for that very fact but they were trying to side add divorce decree they didn't add at USCIS and other rubbish.

It's up to you to present your bonafide relationship however you want. This is Lagos you are dealing with which is no small thing. But it can be easy and effortless when you follow instructions and guidance of others who have gone before you and been there done that.

Like I said I have yet to read one person say they were approved at Lagos Consulate and presented nothing.

No doubt i have followed you extensively o this site and respect your expertise on the subject matter.

But note that I WILL BE JUST ONE OF THOSE RARE STATISTICS that came out of LAGOS embassy without frontloading but rather took the chunk and box load of evidence to interview( approximately 14days from now) and CAME OUT APPROVED!!!

WATCH OUT FOR MY REVIEW COME 11TH JUNE!!!!!

ITS A DIVINE CONFIDENCE I KNOW AMNT STANDING ALONE.

what you think????

[doshi 1]

This is how I look at it, when you read the instructions provide the information

they are requesting. If you feel that the information your providing is satisfying

the requirements do it!. I did not front load my petition, So, I read the instructions

about 10 times to make sure that I was supplying the information to supplement the application and submitted it without any problems. Working for the federal government, Ive learned

that the instructions are pretty specific, if you supply the information they

are requesting you shouldn't have any problems. Because you meet the application

requirements. Good Luck! but,every embassy is different. So, check out specifics for

the embassy you will be using.

my thoughts too.

Follow procedure and hope the best!!!!!

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

To me, it's all about choice. It doesn't make a difference and shouldn't raise any flag. Send what you have whenever you chose to. it's an option. Why worry about issues where there's none? Fraud can happen at any point.

What ? What doesn't make a difference ? What is all about choice ? An option ?

Your comment makes no sense in context with the Lagos embassy.